Are you American?

Exactly. WTF is that? What is going to be the discipline for whoever approved these shifts?
Of course I would say just fire the dumb**** but will be curious to see. If Floyd would have just caught a normal everyday beatdown with no media exposure I guess there would be no discipline and these morons running the show would let the 2 rookie cops continue to give each other on the job training.
What business from an ice cream shop to any other company just puts two rookies in charge on their 1st week?

Will have to let one of the resident lawyers chime in if they want but I would think if it stayed at murder 3/manslaughter it's pretty hard to convict as an accomplice and if you can convict as an accomplice to manslaughter what kind sentence is there. The courts are going to be in a real pickle with these 3, especially the 2 rookies. Anything less than castration by pitbull and we're going to have a repeat performance...

They had him on his stomach with his hands on his head and legs crossed.
He was no threat.

They intentionally gave him commands after he was on the ground that confused him so they could execute him.

Only another murderer would defend their actions.
And only a jury of sheep would believe the cover up instead of what they see with their own eyes on the video.

But I'm okay with the entire unit being convicted of murder. If they did that maybe the country wouldn't be on fire right now.

They hate those nasty teachers though.

lol Republicans.

Actually yes. When you are part of a militarized terrorist organization and it's your 1st week on patrol and in the midst of enemy contact you are going to question your squad leader while he's in the middle of neutralizing one of the scum?
I gest (a little)
In seriousness though the police is like the military and your 1st week on the job you're going to challenge your superior? What happens when word gets out at the station that this rookie told Chauvin to take it easy?
Lets say one of the rookies did get in there and stop it. A what would now be lifesaving heroic act that we would never hear about and probably he'd be labeled a traitor by all of his coworkers and someone you can't trust to have your back for the rest of his career.
Please don't jump on me like I'm trying to defend it but with this sick cop culture who knows what is going through these guys' minds. Since they wanted to be cops and are attracted to this type of behavior maybe it never crossed their minds but I can see how a lawyer can make a good argument for it.

It's the one strong union you have left and look at what they do. Need to take them out as well.

The media made as big a deal out of it as they do with anything.

But the white people who should have been upset at the police force decided they were okay with their police executing a drunk white guy.

The AA community has higher standards because they organized a protest about Floyd (as they often do).

The protest is what the media latches onto.

The way representative government works is, you have to let your politicians know what you want.

In AZ white people want their police to act like that. In Minn they don't.
It's really that simple.

LOL

Can't have workers being paid well.
That's socialism.

The idea was that wit M3 depraved indifference was a slam dunk more or less. Also it wouldn’t be a stretch to charge the 3 other cops with M3. Being an accomplice wouldn’t have to be proven.

I don’t know either. Just seems like a jury won’t be looking at the subtleties that McCarthy is discussing.

These police unions are literally killing people. My concern is just for the innocent lives.

Minneapolis city council is considering dismantling the police force. LOL. Good luck with that. Will be the most dangerous city in the world within a month.

Anyone have any context around this?

https://twitter.com/TatianaSophiaPT/...03277680394240

Nah, conservatives don't care about lives.

And it's up to the people to force their elected leaders to sit on the police.
Unions do protect their members because that's why they exist but they're not all powerful.

But hey, if you can kick a union member don't miss the chance.
The Koch boys will thank you. Or is that Koch boy now ?

We are winning the national discussion. We have Trump on his heels. We have the opportunity for real change, so let's do some totally stupid things, like defund the police departments and talk about dismantling the police force!

What a fumble. Let's just fit the narrative that Trump has a point when he says he is the Law and Order President and the Democrats are the party of anarchy.

This won't be reported properly, but is the greatest political miscalculation since Hillary Clinton took Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin for granted. Just handed Trump another 4 years, good job.

You are couldn't be a more acrchetypal conservative. You frame everything in terms of "winning" and "losing" (also see "we have declared VICTORY on covid"). Does nuance exist in your cartoonish world?

Imo, not as powerful as the teacher's union, at least here in California.

You either get something positive out of this, or you don't.

It's binary. If you make decisions that make the problem you are trying to fix worse, it is a loss.

And, I think that world frame work fits in for poker players too. You either have a solid base to win, or you don't.

Every session is not a victory, but every 2000 hours should show positive results, or you are doing something wrong. Either have fundamental flaws in your game or playing against competition that is just better than you.

I remember a week or so ago seeing that the cops were due for some big bonuses while a lot of other city worker's were being asked to take a 10% paycut due to Covid. Saw this after a quick google:

"Some politicians are listening: the Los Angeles Police Department was set to receive a large increase in its annual budget from $1.189 billion last year to $1.86 billion (most of the budget increases were for new police bonuses) for 2020-2021 before Garcetti axed that move Wednesday, cutting $100-$150 million — only after activists rallied outside of his home. "

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbre.../#123e42821ba3

With no small degree of bureaucratic turf pushback, Los Angeles Police Chief Michel Moore today has responded to the city’s proposed $100 million-$150 million cuts for the 2020-21 police budget.

https://deadline.com/2020/06/lapd-ch...ti-1202951379/

So they're still getting like a net $400 million budget increase?

Now you're just lying.

You and Victor can reboot the old Liar's Club.

Are you the original author of "all poker hands are 50/50" perchance? Because that's what your world view boils down to.

I am a believer in variance and trends.

You trend the right way, or you don't.

I think things were already trending the right way.

Decriminilization of marijuana, the prison bill Trump passed with Bi Partisan support, greater accountability for police. The trend is moving correctly. I agree, with the protestors that the trend is too slow. I also agree that being a police officer is like being an airline pilot. You can't make any mistakes in that job.

Don't do things that will reverse the trend. Like, 3 betting the button every time may show some fantastic short term results, but when opponents start 4 betting liberally, your long term benefits will suffer if you don't adapt and properly construct a range.

But how will we pay for it?

How are we going to pay for all the looting and rioting that happened over this issue? Insurance premiums will rise. Taxes will rise.

Improving police effectiveness should be better for the economy long term.

It is certainly better for safety and life protection.

How will states and cities pay for anything is going to be a big deal moving forward, as they can't just print more money like the federal government.

Between Covid and riots, a lot of different moving parts are all going to be going in the same direction, causing massive budget shortfalls.