I actually quit this forum for a while several months ago because I was spending most of my effort defending myself against lies and misrepresentations about my positions.

Thanks

The story is like this:
On the 5th of december ''Sinterklaas'' comes from Spain on his big boat loaded with presents. He's like a saint and gives presents to kids who has been a good kid that year. He does this by riding his white horse over the roofs. while his helpers (the Black Petes) deliver the presents through the chimney's. Which is the reason they are black.
True or not, thats how it has been explained for ages.

Worst of all, they show up demonstrating on the biggest kidparty of the year and try to provoke.
I mean: who in his right mind would do that?

Anyway, thats the right side of view.

Left side of view: black petes are just the helpers so its racism.

gl

That's correct...and who the **** are u?

You are correct!
But on the upside, lets see what happens with CV numbers now.
See it as a ''live'' test!

If nothing really changes...then its back to ''old normal'' real quick.

It's really very simple. Police officers are immune from being sued personally for their actions on the job. End that and you will see brutality drop significantly. Police officers would not be shooting and beating suspects willy nilly if they were personally on the hook for their actions, not the city that employs them. But will never be changed because reasons.

The movement to defund police is based on nothing but lies
OPINION
https://nypost.com/2020/06/06/the-mo...thing-but-lies

The backlash against Drew Brees is insane. If so many people misunderstand it and are offended by it, is kneeling during the anthem really an effective form of protest or does it do the opposite of what you want it to do? You could kneel before or after or protest in so many different ways but you choose to do it in a way that makes many people actively hate you, kind of like rioting, it just seems stupid and counterproductive.

Are the chimneys the reason they're always drawn with exaggerated African features as well?



Do chimneys make your nose big, your hair curly, and your lips red?

Well Named,

I think I speak for everyone when I say we would like this detail stopped ASAP.

If Wookie wants to have a discussion on alleged racism in Northern European folktales, I think it should be contained to its own thread.

I find that interesting because in the limited times i have engaged with you on this forum and read you I find you moderate on most issues when you dig deeper but a guy who enjoys posting things in ways that poke and are likely to fuel misunderstanding or make others think you are more extreme, in an attempt to get a reaction.

So that it might bother you that you were successful seems odd to me.

Like your avi+location? Clown.

Wow, you must have went way & beyond to find that picture!
https://02varvara.wordpress.com/

Point is: they wanna spoil a party they do not even celebrate or attend themselves.
On top of that: its a one time a year childrens party!!!

When the boat arrives, there are more cops then petes and demonstrators combined.

Talk to neverclever. You know, the guy spewing BS extending the discussion. Super duper fascinating interesting that you pipe up after he's shown how idiotic the take is that it's not racist.

Haha wow.

You really have no understanding whatsoever of what 'protest' means or does.

Like Trump, you and many seem to think protest is something you do quietly, out of site and that does not disturb, impact or otherwise inconvenience others. Kind of like engaging in quiet prayer.

Don't shut down that highway during rush hour. People want to get home for their dinner time and you will anger many, so why do it?

Don't march thru the downtown and shut down traffic, as I need to get tot he Mall and others need to get to places too. It will anger them so why do it?


Instead take your protests to the middle of some national park, as you should not want to inconvenience and anger others. Wow. LOL.

Drew has a fundamental misunderstanding of what his grandfather and father fought for. You CANNOT fight for freedom and yet try to shut down a persons freedom to peacefully protest even in ways you do not like. That is exactly what they they do in China and Russia. EXACTLY.

Protest quietly and where you no one really sees and you anger or inconvenience no one and they leave you alone. Protest where others see you. Where it may cause discomfort as people are forced to think about the issues. Where it may cause dialogue. And we will shut you down.

I wonder if people can see the irony when they decry and shut down peaceful protests and then later end up lamenting and confused as to why protests later end up violent.

Hmmm?

do you even google?

...and the **** is "way & beyond"?

at least you're open about you racism. well, since you're some coward's alt, I take it back. gtfo

Yeah best buddy why are you here? Under an anon name? Coward? Go out and tell the blacks protesting what you think about them, or even the white people that are out there with them. I'll pay you 100 dollars in bitcoin if you post proof of your legal name right now.

How many more cities will end up like Detroit?

https://offgridsurvival.com/detroitp...ngeroustolive/

There is a very good discussion that can be had about a thing I like to refer to as being an Ooboo.

Offended
On
Behalf
Of
Others

as I think there are a lot of problems in the outrage you see many exhibiting (often young university liberals) on behalf of the people they see as oppressed.

This leads often times to them challenging a comedian or speaker who may say things that tread on controversial because they think it will offend OTHERS.

And of course standing up for those with no voice or who are being repressed is a good thing, but there is an element of infantilizing others if you believe only you can defend them and they need that defense whether they want it or not.

And often the 'blow back' is on those very minorities who are then seen as the ones who are overly sensitive and making everything into an issue, when this was not something they really cared about.

But that said, there should be those in society who look at the actions their people (their race, religion or other) have taken prior, (the Black Petes) and change them to reflect more modern times. It is not a defense to say 'no one cared about 'Black Petes' when they were first imagined and for decades after so leave it alone forever. Fix that easily and quietly before an OOBOO whips it up into an issue often long before an actual black person does.

I support racial equality and peaceful protests.

Do NOT make me change my avatar to Spanky! If you don't support black actors you're part of the problem.

So is the main issue when Drew said something along the lines of "I'll never agree with someone disrespecting the flag"?
If he would have omitted that and just said although he is behind the cause he cannot personally kneel to the flag for his own reasons?
Or everyone just has to kneel during the national anthem for now on or you're a racist until further notice?
This is not trolling, serious question. I'll kneel to the national anthem for more ice cream, I really don't care but I'm not as woke as some people and I just want to understand if this is now the case. In your opinion obviously.

I posted this before but no one seemed to care. Is this the SOP now?

https://twitter.com/TatianaSophiaPT/...OiwC3WOx6pRK8s

So you don't want this 100 usd in btc right? How about 200?

There are many who agree with that. However, sometimes the purpose of a protest is designed to piss you off and grab attention whether you like it or not

Drew Brees is just another in a long line of people who live in a bubble and simply don't get it. Some never will. Some don't care. Some don't want to

The problem is people skip right over Kaepernick's message and straight to the disrespect of the flag part. There's so many angles to unpack from that, but it should be noted that those who think like Drew Brees still don't ****ing get it. People are getting murdered right the **** in front of them and they care about respect. Are they ****ing blind? What greater disrespect than watching death after death and not caring about it? The whole point is it implies they view a Black life as less important than any other color...

Again, people really do not realize the very way they behave, the words they choose, the first things they choose to focus on, all speak very loudly and clearly as to what they do or do not care about primarily. Obviously everyone is unique and thought is not monolithic, but if Ahmaud Arbery gets killed and the first thought is, and in every instance like this, to victim blame, then it's making the same mistake the people who jump right to the flag and skip Kaepernick and what he's representing

They care more about a show of respect than the systemic oppression/harm/killing of a race most likely not yours

Mind you, Kaepernick started kneeling with the sole purpose of continuing to speak his mind while also trying to demonstrate in a way that is traditionally symbolic of respect. But people don't care. They don't want to acknowledge that or anything genuine Kaepernick is doing for humanity right now

As for its effectiveness, well, I dunno how that gets judged or what the criteria is, but several police departments have already changed their policies thanks to activism like Kaepernick's and Black Lives Matter. There is talk of even more change after all these protests from the Arbery/Taylor/Floyd killings. One thing everyone can agree on, we hope the changes to come leads to more peace and less unrest. Like the Zen master says...we'll see