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05-31-2020 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TERR1FYER
Smudger2408 seems like he supports the white supremacist cop. Where are the mods? Why is he still allowed to post here?
I haven't read all his posts, but don't see support for white supremacy in them. This is the problem with america: it is so divided. If someone doesn't agree completely with one group then they are automatically on the polar opposite end.

Are his rants ridiculous? Of course they are. But having a different opinion, as stupid as it is, doesn't make him an auto racist. He could (in theory)also be saying this if the victim was white.

Again I haven't read all his posts, but I haven't seen him say anything about supporting white supremacy. If any of his posts say that then I retract all of the above.
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05-31-2020 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Would George be dead if the officer didn’t knee him in the neck for an extended period of time?
Personally, I don't think so. But, leaping to that conclusion without forensic experts is not our justice system works.
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05-31-2020 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Great point! I am not forensic expert, guessing you aren't either.

The forensic experts first need to agree on cause of death. At this point, I see nothing in cause of death that leads to a conclusion of beyond a reasonable doubt that these officers killed him.
Beyond a reasonable doubt for cause of death is a joke when the video is prevalent.

I know you want to be all lawyer like, but get a ****ing grip. This ass hope cop detained a man in a completely dangerous and unethical way for an extended period of time resulting in the man’s death. Over a god damn bad check.

George would not be dead today without the cops restricting his ability to breathe. I don’t really see what other reason you could argue for George being dead right now without that encounter.
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05-31-2020 , 02:18 AM
If I held you by your shirt over a 20 floor balcony and your shirt ripped your cause of death would be a weak shirt and gravity, plus underlying conditions
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05-31-2020 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
I haven't read all his posts, but don't see support for white supremacy in them. This is the problem with america: it is so divided. If someone doesn't agree completely with one group then they are automatically on the polar opposite end.

Are his rants ridiculous? Of course they are. But having a different opinion, as stupid as it is, doesn't make him an auto racist. He could also be saying this if the victim was white.

Again I haven't read all his posts, but I haven't seen him say anything about supporting white supremacy. If any of his posts say that then I retract all of the above
Thank you. I am not a white supremicist. I merely think we need to examine forensic evidence here first. The Medical Examiner gives the defense a lot of room to argue reasonable doubt. If you disagree with that, you haven't really read the medical examiners report.
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05-31-2020 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bakes
Dems equity in the general would definitely improve if Biden bowed out and was replaced by Bernie Taylor Swift.
fyp
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05-31-2020 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Thank you. I am not a white supremicist. I merely think we need to examine forensic evidence here first. The Medical Examiner gives the defense a lot of room to argue reasonable doubt. If you disagree with that, you haven't really read the medical examiners report.
why dont you start and quickly paraphrase what you think the medical examiner report says..

maybe we've all seen different reports...
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05-31-2020 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
If I held you by your shirt over a 20 floor balcony and your shirt ripped your cause of death would be a weak shirt and gravity, plus underlying conditions
Clearly, smudger made a mistake by not having a stronger shirt. That’s totally not your fault. Had the shirt been strong enough, and if gravity and underlying conditions didn’t exist, he’d still be alive. Oh well, sad and tragic, but that’s life.
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05-31-2020 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by despacito
fyp
michelle obama/taylor swift mega ticket..
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05-31-2020 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
why dont you start and quickly paraphrase what you think the medical examiner report says..

maybe we've all seen different reports...
Yes, please do.
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05-31-2020 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Beyond a reasonable doubt for cause of death is a joke when the video is prevalent.

I know you want to be all lawyer like, but get a ****ing grip. This ass hope cop detained a man in a completely dangerous and unethical way for an extended period of time resulting in the man’s death. Over a god damn bad check.

George would not be dead today without the cops restricting his ability to breathe.
Was it dangerous? Was he applying pressure on his neck? Were their bruises on his neck? Or was it impraved indifference to a person that he restrained peacefully and did nothing when he went in cardiac arrest?

Was he merely keeping him restrained until the paramedics got there? He is doing the right thing waiting for his lawyer before speaking, but no one really knows what he was thinking and what he did. The physical evidence, based on medical examiners report makes a link to murder, but gives a lot of wiggle room for defense attorney.
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05-31-2020 , 02:25 AM
Where's Kanye at by the way
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05-31-2020 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Was it dangerous? Was he applying pressure on his neck? Were their bruises on his neck? Or was it impraved indifference to a person that he restrained peacefully and did nothing when he went in cardiac arrest?

Was he merely keeping him restrained until the paramedics got there? He is doing the right thing waiting for his lawyer before speaking, but no one really knows what he was thinking and what he did. The physical evidence, based on medical examiners report makes a link to murder, but gives a lot of wiggle room for defense attorney.
literally not a single thing you said in here matters with regards to what he is currently charged with.
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05-31-2020 , 02:27 AM
The medical examiner said Floyd had underlying health conditions, including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease.

“The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death,” the medical examiner reported.
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05-31-2020 , 02:27 AM
The officer continued to restrain George AFTER the paramedics arrived and AFTER he was unconscious.

Impraved indifference? Over human life? Lmao. Whah threat was George to the officer and others around? Nothing.

You’re a ****ing sociopath.
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05-31-2020 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
The medical examiner said Floyd had underlying health conditions, including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease.

“The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death,” the medical examiner reported.
you just proved a murder 3 charge.. congratulations.



(a) Whoever, (Chauvin) without intent to effect the death of any person(doesnt matter what Chauvin was thinking), causes the death(The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions) of another(floyd) by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others(kneeling with weight on someones airway/chest) and evincing a depraved mind(didnt stop when Floyd repeatedly told him he couldnt breathe), without regard for human life(didnt stop when floyd repeatedly informed him he couldnt breathe), is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.
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05-31-2020 , 02:30 AM
You’re one of those COVID people that says, well, yeah they had the virus. But they also had cancer, diabetes, and hypertension, so sure, the virus accelerated their death but they would have died anyways from one of those other causes, eventually. They may have died a month early, 6 months early, a year early, 5 years early, 10 years early, or even 20 years early. But yeah, they had the virus, but they also had those other things so they probably just died because of those other things.
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05-31-2020 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Thank you. I am not a white supremicist. I merely think we need to examine forensic evidence here first. The Medical Examiner gives the defense a lot of room to argue reasonable doubt. If you disagree with that, you haven't really read the medical examiners report.
Aren't you supposed to "fyp" if you add or omit a quoted post? In this case omitting 2 words which I typed on purpose and you left out.
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05-31-2020 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
Aren't you supposed to "fyp" if you add or omit a quoted post? In this case omitting 2 words which I typed on purpose and you left out.
He’s either a troll or a ****ing moron. I’ll go with a combo.
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05-31-2020 , 02:35 AM
Rioter throws molotov cocktail, accidentally sets himself on fire, then hurries to stop, drop, and roll

https://twitter.com/ihateyoutyIer/st...88625750507521
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05-31-2020 , 02:37 AM
Cops dragged by protesters, and then protected by protesters before it got a lot worse

https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/30/chica...yd-protesters/
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05-31-2020 , 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
you just proved a murder 3 charge.. congratulations.



(a) Whoever, (Chauvin) without intent to effect the death of any person(doesnt matter what Chauvin was thinking), causes the death(The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions) of another(floyd) by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others(kneeling with weight on someones airway/chest) and evincing a depraved mind(didnt stop when Floyd repeatedly told him he couldnt breathe), without regard for human life(didnt stop when floyd repeatedly informed him he couldnt breathe), is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.


I proved nothing! Was just the first go around on the physical evidence!

Don't think a competent defense attorney going to pick this to shreds?

Only point is, there is a lot left to this case. Let it play out. I would never bet on something so terrible, but I think a really good defense attorney gets him off
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05-31-2020 , 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
He’s either a troll or a ****ing moron. I’ll go with a combo.
Sorry if my point and drag didn't work so well.

If I missed a few words, just correct me.
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05-31-2020 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
I proved nothing! Was just the first go around on the physical evidence!

Don't think a competent defense attorney going to pick this to shreds?

Only point is, there is a lot left to this case. Let it play out. I would never bet on something so terrible, but I think a really good defense attorney gets him off
Which is pretty much what’s wrong with this country in a nutshell.
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05-31-2020 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
I proved nothing! Was just the first go around on the physical evidence!

Don't think a competent defense attorney going to pick this to shreds?

Only point is, there is a lot left to this case. Let it play out. I would never bet on something so terrible, but I think a really good defense attorney gets him off
im a competent defense attorney and before that i was a competent prosecutor and i definitely dont like his odds.
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