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08-02-2020 , 11:08 PM

#3676

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

goofy to the rescue.

chez finding my impolite interruption far more offensive and objectionable than binary gender truthers right on schedule

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08-02-2020 , 11:08 PM

#3677

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

IIRC, about half way through that thread, it becomes apparent that OP believes that the denominator of the fraction makes a difference to what it represents, when he refuses to accept that 4/52 and 1/13 represent the same number/probability. "But how can it be 1/13 when there are 52 cards?" It's quite the ride.

OP's gotta be trolling. I refuse to believe there are people this stupid.

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08-02-2020 , 11:11 PM

#3678

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Originally Posted by EADGBE

OP's gotta be trolling. I refuse to believe there are people this stupid.

Even after your new role required you to read every post in this forum for the last couple of weeks?

I envy your capacity for blind optimism.

Last edited by d2_e4; 08-02-2020 at 11:18 PM.

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08-02-2020 , 11:12 PM

#3679

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

chez finding my impolite interruption far more offensive and objectionable than binary gender truthers right on schedule

in b4 some silly deflection that claims this isn't accurate despite it being what chez does in literally every thread he posts in

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08-02-2020 , 11:12 PM

#3680

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

chez finding my impolite interruption far more offensive and objectionable than binary gender truthers right on schedule

offensive and objectionable?

Not even 'or' goofy

In before goofy objects to his error being pointed out. Oops too late, damn he be objectively and offensively fast

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08-02-2020 , 11:13 PM

#3681

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

in b4 some silly deflection that claims this isn't accurate despite it being what chez does in literally every thread he posts in

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

offensive and objectionable?

Not even 'or' goofy

hahahahahahaha

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08-02-2020 , 11:13 PM

#3682

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

offensive and objectionable?

Not even 'or' goofy

One is a lesser included offense of the other, so you're both wrong.

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08-02-2020 , 11:14 PM

#3683

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

Even after your new role required you to read every post in this forum for the last couple of weeks?

I envy your capacity for blind optimism.

I think most people around these parts are just more interested in winning the argument than coming to a more enlightened position and it tends to blind them.

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08-02-2020 , 11:20 PM

#3684

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Originally Posted by EADGBE

I think most people around these parts are just more interested in winning the argument than coming to a more enlightened position and it tends to blind them.

OP of that thread is pretty much never trolling, or he is one of the most dedicated trolls in the world. That thread was not the only one where he expounded upon his theories. You can see the change in responses once his work gets thrown out of the riggie thread in the zoo to the probability forum. It is currently stickied and the top thread in that forum, mostly because mod whosnext found it so entertaining.

As for these 'ere parts - what you describe is accurate, but there are still some objectively pretty stupid points/arguments. Not quite on the ?/3 level, but give it time.

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08-02-2020 , 11:20 PM

#3685

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

One is a lesser included offense of the other, so you're both wrong.

Something can be offensive and not objectionable to me. And vice versa. Goofy at least could have been right in theory. Plus there's the ambiguous use of 'and' in the english language.

Obviously I don't find it to be either of them but goofy was here to the rescue.

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08-02-2020 , 11:23 PM

#3686

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

Is pornography involving donkeys, midgets, and power tools offensive, objectionable, or both?

Asking for a friend.

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08-02-2020 , 11:23 PM

#3687

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

It's the butterfly effect. The actual probability is 1 or 0 and different ways of stating the probability might change the outcome.

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08-02-2020 , 11:24 PM

#3688

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

Is pornography involving donkeys, midgets, and power tools offensive, objectionable, or both?

Asking for a friend.

(A <--> B and B <--> A) <--> not (A and B)

(in case it's not clear '<-->' means 'not implying')

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08-02-2020 , 11:25 PM

#3689

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

It's the butterfly effect. The actual probability is 1 or 0 and different ways of stating the probability might change the outcome.

Holy **** chez, you actually think you said something smart there, don't you?

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08-02-2020 , 11:26 PM

#3690

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

(A <--> B and B <--> A) <--> not (A and B)

I'm not sure what those arrows are supposed to represent, but I'm gonna recommend that the mods keep an eye on you, you filthy bastard.

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08-02-2020 , 11:27 PM

#3691

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It be logic. Of as limited smartness as the previous post but handy to have some familiarity with the basic stuff. Run before toddling...

(I had edited the original post in case the notation was tricky)

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08-02-2020 , 11:28 PM

#3692

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Don't worry, I'm here to help get this thread running at EV again.

Mission accomplished. Invoice is in the mail.

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08-02-2020 , 11:33 PM

#3693

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Originally Posted by EADGBE

I think most people around these parts are just more interested in winning the argument than coming to a more enlightened position and it tends to blind them.

Not sure what I am supposed to find enlightening about a false gender binary discussion.

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08-02-2020 , 11:41 PM

#3694

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A general observation not directed at any particular poster. Although a few come to mind.

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08-02-2020 , 11:44 PM

#3695

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Originally Posted by EADGBE

I think most people around these parts are just more interested in winning the argument than coming to a more enlightened position and it tends to blind them.

Being serious for a moment. This is generally true, especially if posters are attacked.

But it doesn't mean we don't learn from it. The learning comes later when people reflect (sometimes unconsciously). Most will still never admit , even to themselves, to having been wrong but they will sometimes do better when applying the same sort of reasoning to future arguments. And even to the same argument if it comes up after a period of time in a calmer/different setting.

The real enemy in arguments is entrenching bad views.

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08-02-2020 , 11:45 PM

#3696

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I think the general point EADGBE was trying to make is that this thread should be for posting jokes and music and dunking on chez (as all threads are, really), whereas you guys keep trying to discuss all these highbrow topics, like politics. I mean, jeez, if I wanted to talk about politics, I'd post in the politics forum or something.

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08-02-2020 , 11:48 PM

#3697

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

If we're going to be serious for a second, you have exhibited the exact behaviour you denounce. I tried to engage you in a conversation about something, and you dismissed my views by saying that your position was axiomatic (i.e. based on a "trivial fact"), without any reasoning to support this conclusion. You also ignored all my reasoning to the contrary.

Preacher, heal thyself.

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08-02-2020 , 11:54 PM

#3698

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

I personally don't mind it at all, and it's inevitable since people post random political stuff here that doesn't fit in any particular thread and other people respond.

Just thought it was funny that the conversation in here is often more serious than in the 'serious' threads.

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08-02-2020 , 11:55 PM

#3699

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

It's ok I don't have the pretension of perfection

But I think you may well reflect and get the simple points - especially if it comes again in another setting. The jury is out on whether you will realise you learned something but that's arguably of lessor importance than. That's even assuming you didn't already know it.