That seems an odd use of "you", since I assume you don't mean me - I probably came to this at least a few days/weeks late and don't have nearly that worldwide reach.

But yeah, it appears you're right, and so that makes a little more sense I suppose. But I also doubt she read the article, because in context it really doesn't seem like a big deal at all and a weird thing to be the straw that broke the camel's back.

It's a fair question that you ask just as I can ask the question if Sam Smith and Demi Lavato declare themselves non binary to sell more cds or whatever you call them now

I guess, although my question was simply whether she read an article and thus whether she's critiquing the article itself or just the headline, whereas what you're asking is about something that would be a lot more crass or cynical. Given the lack of acceptance for non-binary people amongst some, it doesn't seem the best way to go.

LOL, these kids and their damn streaming services!

Getting my pronouns mixed up. I meant "her".

Ok. Nevertheless, you can see how the brutal murder of a trans teen by highschoolers would be particularly poignant to the trans community, and tug on many of the latent issues. It's a bit like how some shootings of unarmed black people by cops manage to rise to the national consciousness despite this being a pretty regular occurrence, and when it does there are quite natural that this gets seen though existing social and political lenses.

No. This very narrow literal meaning of transphobic is not how the word is commonly meant. Insisting that this - and only this - must be present to label something transphobic would miss identifying a wide swath of things that are very problematic but not literally "fear".

This kind of "just asking questions" routine about whether peoples identities are just some marketing play to make money is pretty disgusting.

New trans thread and we’re already accusing transgender people of faking it for clout or whatever, great stuff as always.

It's probably because of stuff like this.

I like to think of "transphobic" as "fear of the effect that transgender people can have on society". Do you have a better word for that?

If they see it as a great political issue then getting rid of trans people would be killing the golden goose.

I have to agree with Trolly.

Time to bury this corpse for good before it totally stinks up the joint. (In my humble opinion, of course.)

Can we call people who fear the effect that Fundamentalist Christians can have on society, "Fundyphobic?"

It anyways is interesting how that is the one thing that you and Trolly agree on.

Even Louis Farrakhan and Richard Spencer agree on something (i.e. racial separation).

https://archive.is/4SIVI

Unlocked version of the NYT JKR op-ed from today

There are people who want to get rid of transgender people and they're arguing that Republicans who care more about power than about trans issues or are squeamish about appeparing too hateful should join them because it's a winning issue.

If it will get you to move on from this talking point, then sure. I doubt there are people here who will try to dissuade you from it.

The next time someone labels me a stupid term like "transphobic" or "homophobic", I'll answer in kind with my own stupid word and accuse them of being "Fundyphobic."

Ukes post about the jkr opinion piece and it's timing probably has no causal connection to the death of a teenager earlier but it is at least a reference to a second NYT piece.

Your post about Smith and Lavato is completely irrelevant to the discussion in the most Washoe way possible.

The Tennessee links to a NYT article but it was behind a paywall.

It has never really been about “protecting children”. https://nytimes.com/2023/01/25/us/po...publicans.html

No republicans care about children. It's true. When you register as a Republican they make you sign some forms affirming that. I've seen them.

This is relevant.

I feel like administering drugs that are designed to interfere with the traditional and natural development of people's bodies is something that a lot of open-minded people are still going to question, especially when administered to children.

I had serious doubts about them myself until I did research into their fully reversible effects if the drug is stopped. But the truth is, in life, none of us have the free time to fully and deeply educate ourselves about all of the issues that we confront on a daily basis. Which is why we generalize and leap to judgment--judgments that will often be misguided or based upon limited information.

I have never met a group of people in my life that is more scared of any other group than social conservatives are of transgender people. The "trans panic" defense is used in court rooms to let off people who murder transgender women often. The idea is that they got so scared of a transgender woman that they had to kill her. Which, of course, is evil.

A pretty hilarious story about the "trans panic" is going on on twitter right now. A conservative UK councilor managed to get a story written about her experience going into a bathroom with a trans woman and the woman apparently verbally assaulted her by talking about her penis. Bad trans woman. Bad bad bad.

But then, a trans woman on twitter becomes pretty darned certain that she is the trans woman in the op-ed and remarkably, the interaction from her side is completely and utterly innocent. That is, if you believe this story, the conservative councilor just had some existential trans panic and managed, got terrified about the evil trans person in her presence, and then managed to get her story published because of course she did.

It has been days of hilarity on twitter since then. Enjoy: https://twitter.com/sophie_frm_mars/...65824811016193