Pretty clearly right leaning. Obama won the popular vote by 9% and Trump lost it by 2%. If there was a hypothetical election where the generic ballot was even your hypothetical voter (who is very like white, male and over 50) would be a solid favorite to support Republicans.

This is a bait an switch because a far stronger claim was made; that nobody who listens to him could possibly consider him anything but a lefty. When in reality much of what he says is quite common on the right. If someone claimed nobody could possibly consider him anything but a rightie that might be fallacious. But nobody actually said that, they just provided examples of him not being all that left.

There are multiple conversations occurring itt right now. That is why I quoted and responded to oafk (a poster who I find extremely reasonable despite our differences, and I enjoy conversing with.)

That statement is not to meant to stand for every argument being made at this moment, a lot of which I'm skipping. It was a direct response to the quote above it.

There’s just one conversation. Rogans covid misunderstandings were quite predictable if you realized how sympathetic he tends to be to many right wing cultural issues. Somehow, when Bernie Sanders is not running against democrats, Rogan doesn’t seem to give his opinions much weight at all.

I guess its just total and utter coincidence that his most recent claims on politics are totally and absolutely harmonious with my opinion of where he falls in his political opinions.

the word you're looking for is "sexist".

also lol at any portrayal of Desantis as anything but FAR RIGHT WING. he's proud boys adjacent.

anyone that says that he would be a "good president" is massively giving away the game.

No to all 3 points.

Yeah, he was a co-founder of the Freedom Caucus so fairly revisionist to now paint him as a lifelong moderate.

This post is pretty much a lie.

Context matters and not snippets and anyone examining the entirety of my position would see multiple statements saying Rogan held some left and right views. Articles substantiating that. And statements that if people listened to his hours and hours of material there is no way you would not find him to a be a left via the bulk of his positions. I am sure what e_d might do is exert one singular post he had to comb from hundreds of mine, he just jumped over and ignores in context to try and make a point he KNOWS he would fail in making given full context.

Again I am waiting for e_d and O.A.F.K to take on the challenge to say they are willing to listen to ANYTHING on Rogan that is not sub-tiitled as outing a right wing position on him.

They expose so clearly they are only interested in selection bias to make a case with not an ounce of objectivity welcomed or needed. They made up their mind before seeing or hearing any facts and by god, they won't let facts impact that.

Imagine this was e_d and O.A.F.K talking about a popular figure on the left. I claimed they were actually radical right, cited some twitter stuff being bantered about the far right and then refused to look at a single thing O.A.F.K or e_d posted to prove their position, while still maintaining I knew better and should be the one trusted to classify him.

Neither e_d or O.A.F.K. will admit they have ever examined any material that would show Rogan in a different light and that they only review stuff when it is claimed to be indicting. Why? Because if they admit they watched the other stuff they would then have to discuss it, and short of lying they would have to admit Rogan's positions are FAR left (Progressive left) and they DON'T want to do that, at any cost. Certainly not for honest discuss.

What "right wing" cultural issues?

Want to take me on, on any of the following?

- Social Safety net - Left of Dem and GOP
- Policing Militarization - Left of Dem and GOP
- Policing and Minorities - Left of Dem and GOP
- US handling of Race and POC - left of Dem and GOP in his belief that the system are not fair and balanced and more needs to be done to address historical imbalance
- Drugs legalization - left of both parties
- MInimum wage, Progressive Taxation - left of both
- Gay Marriage, Abortion - in line with Dems


No, ...shocking. Just broad characterizations with no substantive claims other than 'but his covid stance'.

What are his "most recent claims on politics', quote them please in a list.

Also does this list not matter?

- Social Safety net - Left of Dem and GOP
- Policing Militarization - Left of Dem and GOP
- Policing and Minorities - Left of Dem and GOP
- US handling of Race and POC - left of Dem and GOP in his belief that the system are not fair and balanced and more needs to be done to address historical imbalance
- Drugs legalization - left of both parties
- MInimum wage, Progressive Taxation - left of both
- Gay Marriage, Abortion - in line with Dems

Oh wait you won't even acknowledge these as of course a typical rightie is near Progressive on all these than any current Dem politician that is not a Progressive.

Can you see why you are a joke on this O.A.F.K? You and e_d act like none of those issues matter when trying to define him politically. Like they not only should not be considered but not even mentioned. You might as well stick your fingers in your ears and say 'nah, nah, nah, not listening'.

if rogan is going to vote for desantis over a dem candidate. none of those lists you keep posting are worth a damn. it shows that it's all just made up ****.

desantis is FAR FAR right on all those positions. so if you choose that guy you are endorsing all those positions..

The current expectation is that DeSantis would be running against Biden not any democrat candidate.

Voting for someone does not mean you support every position they hold.

yeah this just doesn't work any more in todays politics.. votes and retweet DO EQUAL endorsements. it's the most basic form of endorsement.

you dont get a pass voting for a bigot that is going to make life worse for tens of millions of people because you believe some made up **** about biden.

just own the bigotry that you support if you're voting red.

eta- the main issue is that everyone in the self described "center"(who are really republicans) is still in this time warp where they think that both sides are still doing "politics". this is a massive loss of reality. what "policies" can people name that are happening on the right?

Firstly, you never ever get to call anyone a joke, because that is what defines you as a poster on this forum, you are its running joke.

Secondly everything you have posted is just ridiculous and absurd hand waves and gymnastics.

JR came out with a stone cold endorsement of DeSantis.

Nothing makes that go away, and you just look like a clown trying to put the rabbit back in the hat.

Slighted, I'm assuming you're using the term "you" in the generic sense, but just in case: it is extremely unlikely I would ever vote for DeSantis, although there are other Republicans who I likely would vote for over Biden. Most of your post is an excellent example of "The left purity test says you must pass on 100% of the tests or you are excluded and only a creature of the right and to be attacked by the left" and the zealotry this stance creates.

He flat out said Desantis would be good, not just that he'd vote for him against a bad, in his opinion, Dem. Just not any way to square that with anything other than Rogan is pretty open to what the republicans are selling.

Because Trump some posters have lost their orientation on how far right DeSantis is, because Trump can make even extreme right wingers look moderate.

His "purity test" just seems to be not voting for this extreme anti-democracy iteration of the Republican party and only ~30% of the country failed if in 2020.

Yeah, I would bet that Mitt Romney or George W Bush will end up endorsing a hypothetical Desantis vs Dem election. But nowhere near as sure as Obama or Clinton endorsing the Dem nominee in perpetuity.

He hasn't really been on the national stage until very recently, and even then mainly on culture war issues. I have no clue how far right he is. I seriously doubt Rogan does either. If DeSantis ran for President in 2024 on an obvious right wing platform and Rogan actually endorsed him, that is one thing.

I am not going to hold too much weight for whatever low information extemporaneous thought Rogan has about him on a podcast in June 2022 filtered through the left wing media infrastructure.

lol at left wing media infrastructure.

Media in USA is centre right to far right (fox) and again people have lost their orientation because of how far Trump move the narrative.

I obviously meant "left wing" in the US parlance, which means WaPo, NYT, MSNBC, big tech social media platforms, and probably further left sources of information I have never even heard of.

I doubt E.D. is sitting down and listening to 10 hours of Rogan/week (he probably has never listened at all); so everything he knows about Rogan is stuff he reads filtered through the lens of the above "left wing" information providers.

Does not matter what parlance, they are not left wing, the might be to the left of fox, but they are still right of the centre.

Where Fox is should not be setting the orientation, this is exactly the confusion I was referencing above.