Where hippies ever liberal? Reagan won by so much partly because he did much better than modern republicans with voters under 40 which were people born in the 50s and we 60s then.

The hippies were just a subculture. Most of the people in that age bracket were regular squares.

A lot were just posers for sure. But there are still plenty of the oldschoolers still around(though they have been passing away more in recent years obv) that haven't become rightwing nuts.

You are not doing it right lozen.

The Left wing purity tests REQUIRE that you exclude anything from his resume that leans left if you find anything you can focus on that leans right. O.A.F.K is literally saying that all he needs to consider is the 'right leaning thing' and the 'left leaning things have zero evidentiary or consideration value for him'.

That is the left wing Cancel culture purity test that the same people will say is not a thing.

The rest of us know you have to look people on balance and as a whole as few people are the cartoon characters, these purity test people need to pretend exist. Most people are a more complicated mix.

So while there really is no denying that Joe is very far left, on most social issues and the types of issues you would typically use to gauge a politician on the left/right spectrum (and that statement is so solid not one person against Joe will dare try to engage and prove it to not be true in debate), he does tend to also express some right wing views or support at times.

But on balance Joe's decades long steadfast Progressive type support in most social issue areas should carry much more weight than him derping it up over Covid because his views on covid where not the 'right leaning views' of denying the vaccine works or that covid was not real (he admitted both) and his covid derpiness was believing a scientist with a credible resume who fed him selective data. So while that appealed to the right leaning derps, it was not a right leaning position. And his current (but often fleeting and not acted upon) support for DeSantis should have very little weight at this juncture because if a Dem Candidate or someone left leaning speaks with joe soon, whom he respects,1 and gives him a bunch of reasons to not vote for DeSantis Joe will likely change his position with that breeze, just as he always does.

Definitely two types of hippie types but not sure I would call either right wing.

The typical Cali type hippie is very much a peace and love, casual drug user, live and let live (Bill Maher, Joe Rogan), who are also Capitalists, very interest in gathering material wealth and keeping that wealth to themselves and who will rail against things like homeless encampments across the city. Their limit to 'live and let live' stops when other peoples living starts to interfere with others in non productive ways (again, homeless encampments, etc).


The other hippie type is basically an anarchist type. No structure for them or anyone else. total live and let live, with a focus on love and drug use.


i think both types are fairly called hippies.

I love these redirections into total nonsense when Rogan's ties to white supremacist organizations is brought to light.

It's too uncouth to say "who cares" so just go into a pedantic argument about what hippies are.

Truly magical avoidance, I'm impressed.

Is everyone now ok to say Joe Rogan is not a conservative Republican?

Is that not how this works? I mean we know it is for those claiming he is as they sight any 'last' statement by him as absolute proof and a gotcha while ignoring the prior 100 statements that suggest otherwise.

Re the above, I have not listened to this podcast but I can all but guarantee Rogan would use very harsh language to describe the types of people who want to end Same Sex marriage and abortion just in the same way I have quoted him attacking those who do not believe in a robust social safety net or those who try to deny the continuing impacts of institutional racism.

And most importantly, again, due to the complexion of his audience and his status with them, it may be the only place they ever hear someone make such impassioned arguments pushing positions to the far left of most Dem politicians in areas of;

- Social Safety net
- Policing Militarization
- Policing and Minorities
- US handling of Race and POC
- Drugs legalization
- MInimum wage, Progressive Taxation

His positions on all of the above are more in line with Bernie Sanders than Nancy Pelosi or Mitch McConnell and yet because the left is so obsessed with purity tests, they insist that they can cite areas where his views lean conservative thus he must only be considered a creature of the right. You must deny him being associated with left at all as if any person cannot hold some views on both sides, as purity demands you only hold 100% left leaning views or you are 'of the right'.

Yeah I agree with this and I find it self destructive. Because by being so purity driven, you end up driving everyone not pure to the other side. Republicans will ignore Joe's views on gay marriage, drug legalization, or whatever other positions they disagree with this. They see he is popular and would rather convert him than get him shunned. I would love to see the left as a whole do the same thing, ignore his derpy right wing views and get him to focus on the left wing views he holds.

I am not so sure that younger republicans are as in line, across the board, on issue like abortion, drug use, same sex marriage, race relations, etc. Most grew up in very conservative households and only heard extreme right media, and thus why I say, then hearing someone like Rogan, on his platform, arguing with people on the right, who sound like their parents saying 'gay marriage is wrong', 'blacks are to blame for all inner city problems', etc, etc and Joe not only disagrees but argues with them often until they agree with him or at least concede more of his far left leaning points,... that is beneficial for those young Conservative to hear.

But ya, the left purity tests means many on the left would love to drive him full heal and become entirely a creature of the right. They would prefer he stop pushing the far left themes and instead go hard right in those areas so they could look and point at him and say 'bad'.

it is really sad.

My cousin disagrees.

Finally listened to my second rogan vid - Ronnie Coleman after listening to Dorian Yates a long ass time ago and saying I was going to listen to another.

I really like the chill format that opens up the discussion. The Yate's story was a bit more interesting but w/e

I liked how the one time someone tried to fight Ronnie when he was a cop happened in a Burger King.

Joe is a hippie who likes guns and karate. He's not passing anyone's purity test.

we're going to have to keep hearing this same **** about rogan and elon right up and passed them voting for desantis probably..

https://podcast.ai/

AI generated podcast of what it would've been like if Rogan interviewed Steve Jobs. Some awkward stuff, but also some realistic conversation.

Tulsi Gabbard on rogan a few days ago..

When Tulsi spoke up about the war machine and unwanted wars that was the end of her in the Democratic party

this video is from a day ago. so she just left the dems? I like this Gabbard a bit, listen to what she says, she is talking about nuclear blasts in the US, wtf? lol
(on Joe Rogan)


I did listen to the first minutes and what she says is somewhat on par with other critical dems such as Chomsky i.e. of course the dems have to distance themself from that I guess.

here other dems are saying similar stuff. listen to this. Gabbard is not alone at the dems.

the US is on a military first ask later strat since forever. and no diplomacy.
over 100 military interventions which of most were a complete disaster. lol

foreign policies a disaster, here is Jeffrey Sachs, a prof from Colombia University telling you this.

She was called out in 2020 for being on the Russian payroll. Looks like Hildawg was right again.

Part of the destruction campaign by Hilary

The end of Tulsi Gabbard in the Democratic Party was long before this week. She may never have been one in the first place save for the fact Hawaii's 2nd district basically requires it if you don't want to be demolished on election day (just ask her father, who also switched parties).

You could probably start somewhere around her bid for POTUS where she was thoroughly rejected by primary voters, and on the way out of office was already showing her colors.

I recall those reports that the Russian media and bots gave her a relatively amount of coverage and attention leading up to the election, which was considered odd for a fringe candidate, and probably the most notable thing about her. Hillary went further than I would, I made sure to find the exact quote: “I’m not making any predictions, but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who’s currently in the Democratic primary and they’re grooming her to be the third-party candidate." Tulsi sued, later dropped & ate costs from her political funds.

To be fair Tulsi at that time did not end up running as a 3rd party candidate, but then again, zero voter support outside of American Samoa closed that door in her face anyway. She does certainly have some very Russia-friendly opinions at a very casual glance but I'll leave that for others to look at.

So now we fast forward 20 months, she's got a podcast, she's been busy speaking at CPAC and endorsing Republicans, guest hosting Tucker Carlson's show on Fox News. Now she's packing all the buzzwords about "wokeness" and "anti-white racism" and "elitist cabals" and how about that, she is "leaving" the Democratic party. She doesn't hold office or a position that I'm aware of, and is still in the military reserves which has apparently become very tolerant of how one can speak of their Commander in Chief compared to my day.

In unrelated news I am "leaving" Salma Hayek

Agree 100% on that point. When Hilary labelled her a Russian Spy it was close. She did perform better than our current VP .

She did two tours I believe in a medical unit which I can only imagine was gruesome. I liked her campaign but when your against the war machine your done. They will destroy you anyway they can