Trump says they are potentially fighting Iran.

I tend to agree with this position. I would argue that the last 4 generations (and counting) of Palestinians are a tragedy for the same reason. And the rest of the world telling them they have to live in such conditions to fight for some piece of dirt their great-great-grandparents may have lived on is the greatest tragedy of them all.

thanks bro.. sorry i'm a bit donkey posting videos

i'm trying to post another but isn't really working.. feel so bad

haha

You posted this which is a link.
But you only need rm2zsgZ1QDE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm2zsgZ1QDE

I read somewhere that assuming that the goal was to get the rest of the Arab world to freeze normalization with Israel (which has already happened), and just throwing the Palestinians in the meat grinder was enough to accomplish that goal, this lessens the chances Iran/Hezbollah will launch a second front.

I obviously dont know what was talked about in alleged high level meetings between Iran/Hezbollah/Hamas leading up to the attack, but it seems reasonable this may be how this goes.

FWIW my understanding is Iran considers Hezbollah a much more important asset than Hamas/Palestinians, and will be much more reticent to throw them in a major battle unnecessarily.

This seems to be a non starter for both sides, and has been the entire duration of the conflict.

Got it! feel so proud..lol

i think this explains pretty much what's going on.. poor people

wtf does Hamas have to do with the Communism thread? and in those posts I just post facts and my interpretation of them.

I dont post bullshit like, zomg 40 babies beheaded. and I dont see you giving any pushback to the uncritical liberals that ate that **** up.

I have said repeatedly that I take all wartime reporting with a huge grain of salt, especially when the primary source of the reporting is the government of one of the warring parties. It doesn't matter which government.

This isn't a huge issue, and it isn't worth a big derail, but what actually happened is that you read a tweet that was written for the purpose of misleading people about the actual facts, and you accepted the tweet uncritically because it aligned with your priors.

so do I. thats why I get called a Putin shill despite being correct almost every time.

Just a heads up since I think English isn’t your first language, your phrasing is considered offensive. Use Jewish instead of Jew.

the distinction was that Biden did not actually sign a bill directing LEO to act a certain way. rather, he approved a memo telling them to.

in this case, the procedural truth was actually worse given the lack of transparency.

nice try at the gotcha. and well down derailing the actual point.

This wouldn't surprise me.. but probably is much more then this. I wouldn't be surprised if Iran and Russia ( and who knows who else ) are backing Hamas. Those 2 nations are working very closely in recent times. Other than this many big geopolitic actors see in Israel the arrogance of the west and are (or have) helping Hamas or other forces who want to fight Israel.

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Thank you bro. Thank you for the advice! Yes I'm an Italian living in Germany.. so my English is a bit rusty and I could probably end up mixing the languages at some point..

I literally copy the word Jew from the "nucularburro" guy post. Since ist started the post saying " I'm Jew". I said to myself: well if he writes like this I can't make any mistakes.

But I didn't want to offend anyone.

So a big sorry for the Jewish dudes here.
It was in no way my intention to offend you guys.

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Israel's strategy is impossible to justify if it's merely Hamas they're fighting because Hamas in and of itself doesn't pose an existential threat to Israel. But they're not just fighting Hamas and they're facing risk of ruin if they get it wrong. No nation would do any different facing similar threats.

"I'm Jewish" -- preferred
"I'm a Jew"-- totally fine
"I'm Jew"-- ungrammatical

I will remember that! I didn't know the difference..Thanks for the explanation*



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No, there actually was the wholesale slaughter of civilians by Hamas, which has kicked off this current round of war. That wasn't a narrative and I distinctly remember it happening as it was just last week.

I got a question, I saw France banned pro-palestinian protests a few days ago

Is that really going to continue as the violence escalates and mass murder takes place? That seems unheard of you couldn't protest that in a western democracy.

I'm not explaining it away. I'm pointing out how hardliners can get into power.

Again with the attempted moral equivalence as if Israel have called for the obliteration of the Palestinians in their constitution, the way Hamas have for Israel in their charter. As if Hamas actually ever made a single compromise or concession the way Israel have. As if Israel have snatched Palestinians from raves and butchered them. There is no moral equivalence here and I think you missed the point of my comments re Palestinian self analysis within the context of bottom line terms which I already explained.

You think there is a moral equivalence because Israel bad, the end. I don't think you like Israel and will always assume the worst from them. That's why you use such hyperbolic and actually offensive terms like ethno fascists, despite fascists attempting Jewish extermination in WW II. That's why you use terms like revenge, when they're actually reacting to a proactive assault.
So I really don't think we're getting anywhere here as you'll continue to view this ideologically rather than pragmatically.

Don't worry corpus vile, I would never morally equivalate the IDF/Israel to Hamas/Palestine.

Israel has murdered exponentially more innocent humans than Palestine.

Don't forget AmeriKKKa!

Israel murdered dozens of unarmed protestors (shooting thousands) for the great crime of approaching one of the fences surrounding Gaza. On multiple occasions. For months and years on end. You know you're a deeply oppressed people when, as a last form of protest, you're resorting to walking straight towards your death; only hoping that it sparks further resistance and/or gets captured by international media.

Ah I remember that thread. Good times.