I'm just stating the stone fact that Israel has murdered more innocents than Palestine. You getting mad at that ain't my problem.

The US has committed countless atrocities as well, thanks for reminding us of that.

Yes, all the pro-palestine protest are banned. I believe in the all EU. People in Germany are protesting anyways but were charged from police. Today they arrested 100 people in Frankfurt. It's hard to talk about democracy this days imo.

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Bro
Like really?
Oh I should probably
Weigh things up

More until I
Eventually take on board other perspectives

Anyway here's some light music for you mate

That's not a valid moral equivalency between the two entities because 'restraint' is a moral value. So you need to factor in the potential or capability to do evil or whatever that wasn't done to compare the two. T

In the full context, there's no comparison. At least on the surface. But follow the casual chain and sure it's that "but by the grace of God" sort of circumstances I wasn't unluckily born into.

You seriously think Palestinians can organize a rave party? Are you joking?

You think they have like discotheques, bars,clubs in gaza? Or in the west bank?

That's hilarious...

Sorry bro, but where do you live?

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Sorry Rococo, looks like corpus vile and I aren't going to be friends after all. He insists on slandering me.

Errr... right. And the exact same logic which you deny explains how Hamas has support (plus the Israeli government favoring them, which you ignore).

Why do you always ignore the decades of murder and theft of homes of Palestinians as if that were of no consequence? Saturday didn't erase the past or excuse what's happening now just as none of those things excuse terrorism from Hamas. Why do you never acknowledge this? And you call me the ideologue?

Bro, I'm not assuming anything. Do you not have eyes? Do you think the UN is also antisemitic as you seem to be implying that I am? You understand that MANY Jewish people in and outside of Israel are critical of the very much fascist and supremacist government right? Are they antisemites? What exactly do you think this government is sanctioning in the West Bank? What do you think Netanyahu meant when he said, "Israel is not a state of all its citizens. According to the nation-state law we passed, Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people — and them alone.” Are you incapable of separating the Israeli government from the Jewish people? You know other people also live in Israel, right?

Why are you responding with that

Very level headed response from someone who is definitely not blinded by ideology.

I think he lives in Ireland some place and seems to be a Zionist Jew. or maybe he just loves authority.

wonder which side he chose during The Struggles. actually, I dont wonder.

If you look up you might just see my point sailing right over your head...

I'm not, I just like f****ng with Karl.

I am a Zionist in the sense that I believe in Israel's right to exist. It was known as The Troubles not the Struggles.

Israel is a made up thing that you are using to justify eliminating the rights of children to exist. 700 kids, last I checked. so ya, thats Zionism.

I haven't slandered you. And we can still be friends.



Already covered, despite your repeated attempts at moral equivalence regarding Israel and Hamas.


Cuz it's going on for three quarters of an effin century and will probably continue long after all of us are worm food. Hence the whole already thoroughly explained bottom line viewpoint from me.
Yes. No question.



I'm not attempting to imply you're an anti Semite. But comparing Israel to fascists is a known anti Semitic trope. So maybe you should give it a rest.
...or not.

I never said criticising Israel is anti Semitic so...

Why do you think Nethanyahu is apparently the be all & end all of Israel? Are you incapable of separating the Israeli government from the Israeli people?
I'm not interested in your attempts to justify a known anti Semitic trope or your strawmanning re criticism, sorry.
And again I'm not saying you're anti Semitic. Just stop using anti Semitic tropes when making your point. If that's not too much trouble, like.

It's not an EU ban. Not banned over my way. There was one on today
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2...mbing-of-gaza/

Last you checked the Soviet Gulags were better than AmeriKKKan prisons. Then everyone laughed at you, some while slapping their knees and pointing at you while laughing at you, remember? When everyone laughed at you? Last you checked Putin was awesome and Ukraine was a Nazi state.

So nobody sane cares about any of the last things you checked vic. (except Karl)

I don't think Putin is awesome.

And yes I agree that Western psycho libs don't care about things like truth and accuracy. Just like they don't care about dead children in Gaza so long as Joe Biden and the CBS news tells them it's worth it.

No. Just Stalin. And Mao. And co.

This is nonsense and people should stop telling others what their beliefs are.

So, just continuing the bad faith posting and slandering. We're done.

Corp is not Jewish, and your anti-Semitism is showing.

All countries are made up, if you think about it. And the process usually involves conflict, since humans define themselves by in-groups and out-groups and they war for territory on that basis.

I never thought you would be friends. But I guess that it was too much to expect that a mutually respectful debate on this topic would be durable. Oh well.

I dont really think those guys are awesome either.

I like to point out that if you apply the same lens to the West, then your boy Churchill and the rest of the collective West look a lot worse.

anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism.

I agree all countries are made up. thats what I was saying.

criticizing the assertion that "humans war for territory" therefore its ok to bomb civilians and kill 700 kids in a week is not anti-Semitism either. its called not being a brainwashed lib.