Other Arab nations have had some really interesting language on this very recently. The Saudies and others are willing to lead the reconstruction IF Hamas is gone. The way they word it is sort of typical between the lines stuff, but it's there. I'll try to find the exact quote shortly.

The problem at the moment is nobody respect the PA's ability to run Gaza, and literally nobody (in the Arab world) wants Hamas to. So someone else has to. If that someone else is stable and reliable, the reconstruction could be really amazing and full of opportunity.

I don't know how many decades it would take for work permits in Israel again. Many. But at a minimum Gaza could really be something in that scenario. It starts with the governing body being reliable. From there there's a real path for a return to the Israeli left. Obviously the big obstacle is who this political party would be.

some Zionist ghoul made a twitter poster about how great the Erez crossing was today. his replies got inundated by people who were tortured at the crossing and others who had family members denied so many times that they died of whatever treatable medical condition they had.

in light of this, you are truly a despicable person.

Has anyone in Netanyahu's administration actually said this our are you spinning fairytales?

Yes Trolly

I think money has never been the issue. The issue has been the Palestinians choice to devote their energies towards war and vengeance than nation building, and always having corrupt leaders who stole whatever resources there were. IF they actually committed to peace and had competent leadership I think the rest fall into place easily.

But I am pessimistic this would ever happen. They have been drinking the Jihad Kool-Aid for 80 years, so hard to expect them just to decide to go another path now. And policing would be very problematic, as any police force the Gaza people dont buy into would be subject to terrorism, and it isn't obvious they would buy into anyone but Iranian backed terrorists.

In a vacuum this might make sense. However, I could write an essay why it wouldn't work; but the cliff notes bottom line is the Islamofasicsm and antisemitism completely woven into Palestinian society would make this unworkable.

Well Israel is trying their best to bomb it out of them

its really not hard to figure out what is going on

You are one small step away from claiming that Palestinians are savages who just don't have it in their DNA to exist peaceably in broader society.

Please spare us your racist-ass essay.

It's darkly funny how conservatives (also including many centrist Democrats) blame violence and disorder on every single thing but the actually main impetus for them -- poverty. Poverty creates crime, violence, hopelessness, etc. Give Palestinians an honest standard of living (of which they are DIRECTLY prevented, currently) and watch the severity of the problems get halved (or more) instantly.

You need peace first. You cant invest and build in a state of constant guerrilla war, being led by guerrillas who abscond what little resources there are for their war effort. But you are correct, and this doesn't contradict anything I said at all.

Israel gave work permits to gazans so they could earn a living wage

And they gave Intel to hamas

They also gave them lots of bombs. And death.


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A living wage from working in the communities looking to find peace by hiring Gazans and proving to Israel it could be done. It's a special hell, frankly.

They killed their truest allies. A unique way to accomplish your goal.

Israel’s military campaign in Gaza seen as among the most destructive in history, experts say

The Israeli military campaign in Gaza, experts say, now sits among the deadliest and most destructive in history.

In just over two months, the offensive has wreaked more destruction than the razing of Syria’s Aleppo between 2012 and 2016, Ukraine’s Mariupol or, proportionally, the Allied bombing of Germany in World War II. It has killed more civilians than the U.S.-led coalition did in its three-year campaign against the Islamic State group.

The Israeli military has said little about what kinds of bombs and artillery it is using in Gaza. But from blast fragments found on-site and analyses of strike footage, experts are confident that the vast majority of bombs dropped on the besieged enclave are U.S.-made. They say the weapons include 2,000-pound (900-kilogram) “bunker-busters” that have killed hundreds in densely populated areas.

With the Palestinian death toll in Gaza approaching 20,000, the international community is calling for a cease-fire. Israel vows to press ahead, saying it wants to destroy Hamas’ military capabilities following the militant group’s Oct. 7 cross-border rampage that triggered the war, in which it killed 1,200 people and took 240 others hostage.

How much destruction is there in Gaza?
Israel’s offensive has destroyed over two-thirds of all structures in northern Gaza and a quarter of buildings in the southern area of Khan Younis, according to an analysis of Copernicus Sentinel-1 satellite data by Corey Scher of the CUNY Graduate Center and Jamon Van Den Hoek of Oregon State University, experts in mapping damage during wartime.

“Gaza is now a different color from space. It’s a different texture,” said Scher, who has worked with Van Den Hoek to map destruction across several war zones, from Aleppo to Mariupol.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-ga...ea22458472a796

Palestinians have always been a necessarily lower wage labor in Israel...used to be way more true but the way things have gone in the last decade or two it has become more like the people from Thailand. Point being it's not primarily been some kind of charity.

Otoh, yeah a lot of the people closest to Gaza and in the Kibbutzim who were killed were the Israelis most against occupation like:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Silver

I am basically undefeated at calling out Israeli lies

Palace Stein

check it out victor. what's up with this?

WaPo posted this, so what are they pro or con?



https://www.foxnews.com/media/washin...-from-staffers

they are very pro Israel. they knew the tunnels were bullshit but they waited a month to retract all the initial "claims" that were made. as usual US media complicit in genocide.

fox news is rotting your little brain dummy

must like being lied to and made a fool of

What's the real story here?

fox news is not a reliable news outlet aka propaganda


if you're talking about why im **** talking washoe thats pretty easy

washoe thinks the people of palestine are merely "cockroaches" his words not mine obv

They figure Sinwar is behind a whole barrage of humans. Gonna be a tough get.

I'm not for banning, especially not before holidays, but I'm reporting this, what can only be described as a " bad faith poster" posting in bad faith now which is against the rules.
he's derailing with his nonsense and wasting everyone's time now, again.

This is not true, he is lying through his teeth and it's terrible.

show us where I said that.
cite or ban!