its good when Jewish people speak out. most of my ideas come from Jewish people who have more knowledge that most and more humanity than the Israeli Supremacists.

Quit pretending this is the holocaust and there aren't two legitimate sides to this issue.

Also, of course what you said is wrong. It took a war that 70 million people fought in to stop the Germans. Speaking up wasn't going to stop the holocaust.

appreciate the shout out

this is weak even for you

I agree there must be 2 sides of this coin. or is it to this coin? idk
anyways two parties means two versions and probably both are right to a degree.

corpus your head is smoking or what? yes that's a paediatrician so you won't understand much. and i don't have to read court papers when I know what's in it, or rather suppsoed to be in it.

sorry for derail.
back to israel.

I dont really think there are 2 sides at this point.

the Zionist argument is literally that if you allow equal rights for Palestinians then they will kill all the Jewish people. therefore the Israelis need to brutally oppress and murder Palestinians.

its really a totally effed up state and society.

please take a good look at this wiki.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale...tical_violence

I am not so sure they would leave the Israelis alone.

firstly, the sheer number of violent deaths is miniscule. its like not even a fraction of percent.

secondly, there is often only one way to fight back at a brutal oppressor. in that regard, the Palestinians have been exceptionally restrained.

But I get it. You're saying they aren't even supposed to be there.
that's the tricky part I haven't gotten behind so far.

it's the style that disqualifies taking them serious. but I get it. they arm up then the others arm up which makes it complicated.

The problem is the idea of winning at all costs. You don’t get a pass on ethics as the oppressed. If all you’re doing is fighting for your own supremacy you don’t actual believe in justice. You’re just a bunch of hypocrites.

no, I think the Jewish people should be able to remain there. but it should be a one state solution with guaranteed rights for all. call me a liberal I guess.

that may take some reeducation of the part of the Zionist Supremacists. but I see no reason why they cant live side by side when the radical elements of both groups are removed.

I truly believe the vast majority of the people dont want bloodshed.

could the Jewish people explain to us why Israel has to be right in the middle of muslim hostile countries?

that leads to wars.

one state? same thing I guess.
won't stop conflicts.

shout out to corpus, you probably just misread me there.

bc they are there already and have been for generations. but that does not give them the right to go all Zionist and murder Palestinians.

well, we are going on 75 years of conflict and war. maybe its worth a try now? other states have been able to form multiethnic and multireligious societies without murdering each other forever. it will certainly take a generation to get rid of the Zionist teachings but its better than this.

not only the Zionist teachings they have to lose, the other side has to do that too.

In Iraq (at least most of it) they've gone from Shia and Sunni being no big deal and people don't even know which their neighbors are, to you're dead if you go to the wrong neighborhood, and back in one generation.

(good posts)

...DonkJr is my son?

I'll get back to you on that, shall we say Friday washoe? Hopefully I'll have deciphered what you mean by then.

Lol. Thanks for that washoe, it gave me a chuckle.
How's your rapey mate Holtzclaw doing btw? only another 256 short years to go and he's free as a bird!



Btw that was a laugh of agreement washoe *bites insides of cheeks*

um..... quite.

You might just be onto something there washoe.

Oh, please. What’s next, that right makes might or violence doesn’t solve anything.

Speak up all you want, you're not going to stop US/NATO from doing what it has always done and always will. You and others itt know that. So to expunge their moral guilt over all those children and innocents dying, they attack those who don't speak up rather than taking ownership of supporting a country responsible for all the killing. And they are supporting it if they continue to live in the US/West.

Honestly, if I held those beliefs, I would've left already. That's because I'd be willing to prove my commitment to my ethics by making an actual sacrifice of giving up all the benefits that come with living in the United States.

So instead of pretending like they care by doing the whole hey, hey, ho, ho virtue-signaling march: leave everything behind, learn Spanish, and start marching south. Doing otherwise is a moral cop-out. All that stuff they'll be leaving behind is stained with the blood of innocents anyway. But they enjoy those benefits too much to give them up. Right?

Aren't you Irish? You would think you would know a thing or two about occupation

OFC Israel is partly to blame for this mess

My long lost father. Finally, you admit that you're my father.