run and tell like a little girl LOL

you called me a maggot but im not a little girl so i wont report you

im not wasting my time to find the post where you said it

coward

well you're a liar. and i deleted any insults and you didn't. your crap still stands. show where I said that. you're lying and you probably even know it. that only leaves bad faith.
cite or ban.

of course it is. its the fouth biggest newspaper in the US, maybe even third biggest idk. or second?

I mean we JUST did this one. Don't have to go to far to find a comparable.

Probably neither Ukraine or Gaza are the most destructive, and probably not close, but attacks on Ukraine were comparable to attacks on Gaza isn't a big credit for the IDF.

as for the worst ever? maybe this

Yeah, a lot of the people tortured, murdered and kidnapped by Hamas were farm workers from Thailand and other places. And although they earned low wage by Western standards, it was much more than they would be making for comparable work at home.

All things being equal, I suspect if you are going to travel thousands of miles to work on a farm (minus the terror threat from Palestinians) an Israeli Kibbutz is a pretty good option. Certainly better than most of the horror stories you hear about migrant unskilled labor in the Arab Gulf States.

Just dissecting that one sentence, wording such as "seen as among" and "[unnamed] experts say" pretty much guarantees the position is going to be mostly subjective and not hold up to much scrutiny, which is par for the course for APNews.

The whole idea of even figuring it out doesn't make much sense (to me). Every single conflict had such different circumstances to work around.

When you have the benefit of two armies willing to fight it out relatively in the open (or the forest or the rice patties or the mountains etc.) you're obviously going to have a better outcome then doing it in the most densely populated place on earth while your target is underground and among a civilian population that has literally nowhere else to go.

The fire power of Bastogne but happening in Paris would have been brutal. Doesn't mean either side was more brutal in my eyes (relative to the total loss of life).

I think the IDF would happily take the scenario of best on best in the middle of the Sinai if you gave them the chance. But this is the hand they were dealt, and it sucks. If I'm honest I have no idea how any of these people are managing this campaign. What a nightmare.

The expert was not unnamed. It was this guy:

https://political-science.uchicago.e...ry/Robert-Pape

Not sure id want the side im on to be compared to what Russia is doing

Im actually on Israels side in this but I dont like the way they are going about things

Hamas are a bunch of animals and what they did on Oct 7 was inexcusable but what israel is doing is disgusting

Netanyahu is a corrupt far right anti democratic autocrat

The people of Israel are wonderful but their leadership is pretty awful imo

What is the point of this? IDF is causing less destruction than the Russians, who are more or less openly attempting to commit genocide against the Ukrainian people? Cool, I guess they get bonus points for that.

in less than 2 years the Russians have less caused less civilian deaths than Israel did in less than 2 months.

the thread is still mistaken about what Israel's intentions are. despite being shown evidence over and over, people still dont realize that all of these civilian deaths are intentional.

Russians aggressions and atrocities are laughable compared to Israel. its actually extremely disrespectful and proly racist to to equate them.

you dont think Israel could have killed more than 20k people ?

I think if they really wanted to they could probably kill all 2.3 million no?

50 some percent of the people of Israel support the bombings, executions, and invasion thus far. 30 some percent think it is not enough and should be more cruel.

you cant blame Netanyahu for this when so much of the population supports it.

Im sure they are indeed wonderful people, so long as you arent an Arab Muslim or Christian.

Not without massive pushback and sanctions from the rest of the world, no. They could just nuke Gaza if they really wanted to badly enough.

Agreed

I was just saying without nuking they could probably have killed many more.

I really don't know for sure so it's more of a question than a statement

no, I dont think they could have killed much more than they already have. they are already dropping an unprecedented amount of bombs. they are reliant on USA to send them bombs faster so that has slowed it down a lot. they have literally used up all of our bombs that fast.

and really, I would guess they have killed a lot more than 20k. last I saw, there were reported 8k missing so its closer to 30k. but 20k in 2 months is an unprecedented amount regardless.

but their intention is not to kill all 2.3m unless they need to. they are "mowing the grass". and Netanyahu has already said that he will reduce the population to a minimun.

this is not indiscriminate. as reported in Guardian and 972, they know exactly who they are killing. remember that Israel has everyone's cell phone number and address in Gaza. there are also constant drones and intelligence technology feeding information back. when they bomb a neighborhood in the North, or a house in Rafah, they know the 100 people that will die.

its clear they are targeting the most important members of a society. doctors, paramedics, bakers, fisherman, farmers for sustenance. artists, journalists, academics, writers for culture. and organizers and leaders to weaken unity and resolve.

Of course it could have been. But of course it's already a huge amount of damage.

Below is a good representation of it - though weirdly North is on the left. Plenty of bombing in the South, but a lot more in the North.

https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ISR...S/zjvqedgdjvx/

Pretty fancy website

thanks for the link

very fancy indeed

I don't agree with you on some things but you 100% are well educated on this subject

I did not know about most of what you posted

thank you buddy.

heres a good article. https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassin...-bombing-gaza/

I think we are about to see a massive amount of death. Israel said at the beginning that they were going to turn off the water, electricity, and food, which they did. now, beyond just twitter reports, the World Food Program confirms that 90% of Gazans are getting less than one meal per day. lots of twitter reports of people scavenging for water (who often get sniped) and drinking rain water.

things are about to get real bad and the USA just vetoed another UN cease fire.

The amazing thing is all the Palestinians/Hamas would need to do is give back the hostages and lay down their arms and it would all be over. But it isn't even a consideration. Hamas just fired a bunch more rockets into Tel Aviv. The religiously motivated suicidal nihilism is absolutely stunning to behold.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+...obile&ie=UTF-8

Most destructive since a few months ago. But the stigma of it being Russia, right?

I'm no historian, but it's obvious that perpetual war among neighbors in every corner of the world is mankind's legacy. All you have to do is scrape the surface of what's readily and abundantly available on this subject in every language to know It's as integral to the human experience/ continuum as anything.

if war is inevitable, just let it happen man. try to enjoy it. feels good right? dont fight it, just relax. feels better when you relax and accept it.