What happened here in Australia on Monday where 2 police were gunned down and 2 escaped in what was a deliberately planned attack to lure the police out to a rural property to kill them shows that we shouldn't rest with gun reform even if we have some of the better gun laws in the world considering the geographical nature of Australia.

Edit: I should not forget about the civilian neighbour who went to see what the noise was about when the shots started to fire at the police who also got gunned down and was killed

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-...dead/101764286

"He was shot in cold blood as well, in the back. He did not see that coming,"

Did this make anyone else laugh?

What if I told you that prison sentences were longer in the U.S. than in virtually any other Western democracy?

What does that have to do with a family member far away from gang activity shooting another family member accidentally due to firearm negligence? Making regulations based on what criminals do doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

What does that have to do with a person, criminal or not, going to a gun show and being able to legally buy a firearm with no form 4473 required?

Fascist gun industry is forcing these permissive laws on the US and it has an army of shills, they're like the people who pushed oxycontin.

We take the "from our cold dead hands" thing seriously.

Is that why the govt let you guys keep bump stocks?

Just a further follow up - so one of the trio that had just recently quit as a school principal was observed when trying to cross the state border a year prior to the siege to be dumping guns and other weapons in a river as his car got inundated with water while trying to cross a river during a flood.

Some farmer pulled his car out of the river and recovered the weapons when the water had receded. Police come by take the weapons and tell the farmer you can dispose of the rest of his belongings as he has fled by then. Police now come by to see said belongings but now gone. Meanwhile police now have a record of this guy coming into this state with these weapons and still send only 4 officers out to this rural property which is owned by his brother and former wife whose awareness to the police is unknown but the brother at least has been a big time online conspiracist.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-...guns/101783696

until Dec 2018

Tell me you know nothing about gun culture in the US without telling me you know nothing about gun culture in the US.

Watched the short film "Two Distant Strangers" about a year ago. There is a great throwaway line where the the main character asks the girl "You have a gun?" and she replies "I'm a Black girl in America; of course I have a gun."

My wife keeps a 9mm bedside. When President Biden recently stated that no one needs a semiautomatic she asked, "Does he think we should all just have revolvers?"

You won't have to clear a stovepipe with a revolver, so maybe.

so we should just bury our heads in the sand and let criminals continue on all the while making new laws to punish the law abiding?

this countrys turning into a joke.
No one complains when some drug addict wants to blow $300 a week on pot, but if I want to go to the range and blow off $300 in ammo at a paper target I must have something wrong with me.

When your kid finds your 8 ball and overdoses thats acceptable but when your kid finds your legally owned gun and hurts himself or a friend its not tolorable.

here's an idea; start charging the revolving door judges when some life long gang member with a 100 page rap sheet gets let go with no time served and commits another crime while awaiting trial on the last one.

do these pot stores popping up all over the country make buyers fill out a 4473
drugs and drug related crimes kill 100 times more people than gun accidents.
funny how liberals like to include gang shooting in as gun related deaths instead of addressing the judges who allow them to be free

Make murder legal because killers don't abide by the law?

Should have used heroin or coke or something. You sound like boomer++ aged with the pot thingy.

But to your point - who cares if you want to spend $300 or $1000 at the range? I'm guessing most people would think a person who spends $300 a week on weed has some things he or she needs to address, yes, but probably less so than someone who spends that much on alcohol.

Neither are acceptable. Who told you that it is?


Which drug-related crimes are you talking about that kill 100 times more people than gun accidents and how are those drug murders being committed?

This lines up with my thinking that the biggest problem in the US is that there aren't nearly enough people in jail. ****ing bleeding heart liberals.

Both major parties in the USA share several common objectives:

1. Keep millions of citizens incarcerated.

2. Have the government spend far more money than it takes in.

3. Keep the Military-Industrial Complex fat and happy.

4. Keep the Medical-Industrial Complex fat the happy.

5. Keep the citizenry distracted with entertainment (i.e. movies, sports, television, music).

Shootings by children in the home aren't always accidents; sometimes the children are just upset that they didn't get the newest video gaming devices.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...on-o-rcna59605

Fwiw I just don’t get those that think gun laws are enough as it is today .
I mean if I’m not mistaken it’s still legal to have a grenade launcher right ?

https://www.online-paralegal-program...gal-in-the-us/

« A grenade launcher is a weapon you might expect to see in open warfare, but owning one is actually permitted in the U.S. under federal law – albeit with restrictions.«

Was the second amendment when written was thinking about that too being permissible ?
Those that think so should just go enlist in military …
That should be a prerequisite for many heavy weapon .
U want to own semi automatic and crap like that .
Then u should be at minimum be in the reserve imo and serve u country if u believe in it that much …

They had cannons and had just defeated the most powerful military in the history of the world. I am sure they thought about the advancement of technology in the past and the present when they wrote that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Welcome to 2+2 President Biden. Please explain what is wrong about owning a semi? Probably something like 25% of the population here legally owns one.

Right wingers will say with no sarcasm that the US needs more prisons and longer jail terms, along with far more access to guns in public, to really start to address the US crime issues.


Sometimes when i read them ...

I'm from the deep south, grew up with guns everywhere. That's why I know that the US gun culture is a part of the fascism at the core of US culture.

Woah, holy ****...


Read that quote from the article. Tell me what you think should be done with this kid.

I believe owning a gun for protection is fine .
Owning a semi permitting to fire like what , 30+(?) bullet a minute isn’t .
Is it that hard to understand that firing that many rounds isn’t about protecting but more about attacking .
I don’t think u need a grenade launcher to defend yourself ….

If u need that much fire power to protect your familly from like a battalion you might be someone having sone serious social issue .
USA isn’t Ukraine ….

Like I said , if u need machine gun to protect yourself just go in the army and protect us all instead .
At least you get paid for it

Are you being disingenuous? If a female is being attacked in her home, she might miss the first or first few shots and having to take the time, strength, and coordination under stress to rack the firearm between shots might lead to her demise.