You became one when you started parroting out NRA talking points.

With a classroom full of dead children! And the Good Guys With Guns did jack **** to stop any of the murders. But somehow more guns is always the solution. Give the teachers guns, give the students guns, give the cops more guns! Guns guns guns!

That video was a bad shoot. It didn't even look like he kept advancing before he pulled the gun out, but once the gun was drawn, he was clearly retreating.

The tricky part is if you pull your gun and then he gets back in his car you don't know if he's done with you, but that's not a reason to shoot. Just another reason that if you're ever carrying a firearm, you never **** with people just because you feel like ****ing with people.

His interviews and police interrogations were just godawful and he ensured himself a jail sentence, which he got 20 years. He proved himself to be a dickhead that carried a gun to intimidate people.

Again you miss the point, I assume deliberately.

You could have Canadians today all rush out and guns in the same proportions as Americans, as that would make them 'prepared' should a mass shooting start as you say.

No one is denying that. But step back from your fixation on that as it does not make sense.

Yes in the remote chance a good guy with a gun happens to be present, that INDIVIDUAL INSTANCE, has a chance of the good guy with the gun ending it.

Your argument is 'the safety of that specific incident is increased'. HOWEVER overall he and his family and his neighbours and friends and everyone he bumps in to incidentally are all now at greater risk of death by gun. His gun.

Here is a cold hard fact for you. If more Canadians do follow his lead and arm up, for every 1 person they manage to save from a Mass Shooter, their personal guns will take 5X, 10X or more lives.

If he is doing what he is doing out of a belief he is protecting society from a Mass Shooter or other, (Self, family, friends, etc) there is no denying that the reality is that he has greatly endangered society far more.

I've never once listened to the NRA or been a member.



Yet again, I did not say more guns is the solution nor have I ever said that teachers should be armed.

I did not say more guns is the solution nor have I ever said that teachers should be armed.

The biggest issue you and Trolly have is you assume I want more people armed just because I lay out an objective fact that perhaps right-wingers have stated.

To be clear: I only want responsible people to own guns, and I'm not against measures being taken to ensure that happens.

I'm guessing you can't provide such a list...
Challenge!

Lets be clear here, its 100% possible to talk yourself into charges in situations where they may not have been charges had you made a simple statement and kept your mouth shut.
There was a case in Minnesota where two teenagers burglarized a dudes home. He shot them both.
The actions he took afterward and the things he said, saw him off to prison for a case that if he had just called 911 and said "TWO PEOPLE BURGLARIZED MY HOUSE AND I SHOT THEM" and kept his ****ing mouth shut from that point forward, he would not have gone to prison.

That dude was a bit of a psycho and may have had it coming, but still, he talked himself into prison.

lol, that’s exactly what you’ve been arguing.

I never said Rosa Parks wasn't a bad ass.

But now we have two examples of people who did things scared gun fetishists would likely never do.

Do you happen to have any examples of grown men who are afraid of going out in public unarmed leaving a legacy that might be considered bad ass ?

Because if not, that's a reason not to be particularly worried about a total gun ban. Which is what the discussion is always based on.

Like Victor in the economic threads, once you just say '**** it, let's give communism a try, it can't be any worse'. The whole argument of the other side sort of breaks down as it's built on an unreasonable fear.

The 'more guns' thing is a false dillema.
It's about making sure a responsible person with a firearm is there to respond to a lunatic... and sure, you can always devise a scenario where it doesn't work, or "what if the person is asleep or a coward" or whatever, but its literally the only solution to the exigent problem of "a lunatic with a firearm is about to attack a school".

But yes yes, tell Israel they've got it all wrong and just need to pass stricter laws.
The fact 'discussion about gun laws' is the left's default response to 'how to protect schools' is evidence of how divorced from reality they are.

"****, a tsunami is coming!"

"We need a better Tsunami warning system..."

"Yeah but ****, one's coming now, RUN!"

"If we just had a better Tsunami warning system we would have known about this beforehand..."

"Whatever you ****ing kook... there's a goddamn TSUNAMI coming, we need to get out of here!"

"Well maybe if you funded those underwater geologists a bit better, this wouldn't be happening..."

"DUDE, A TSUNAMI IS COMING AND YOU'RE GOING TO DIE, RUN! NOW!"

"Well studies show that people who run from Tsunamis..."

Do you think blacks in the south in the Rosa Parks era were better off unarmed?
Because in the town I live in, there are ****loads of examples of that answer being a hard no.

People who use the phrase 'bad shoot' unironically can not provide a list of good musicians.

Bank on it.

I actually do.

They would have been literally wiped out in a manner similar to the Native Americans if they posed any serous resistance to their overlords.

As it is, they won the long game big time.
They're still winning the long game.

It annoys the hell out of some of the very same people who think they need to walk around armed. In fact I'd say there's a definite overlap.

I'm not talking about mass resistance.
I'm talking about instances of personal self defense.
Several who were attacked because of their race, shot back, and lived because of it.
I 100% support them.
You don't.

Telling.

Fair observation, but there are exceptions to an otherwise valid rule.

Yes, and that can happen just walking down the street minding your own business.

Cops use the phrase "bad shoot" or "good shoot" for these types of situations. It caught on, I guess. Sorry you don't approve.

Yes, I probably can't list musicians that a Keith Richards fan would like, and I think that's a good thing, tbh.

Lets start lising good musicians.

Contemporary: Vulfpeck. So, so good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKg_3kyIhHc

Here's the Minnesota case
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder...Nicholas_Brady

Substitute a video game-ish force field for guns and mix in the inevitable misuse and abuse of them resulting in innocent deaths and this breaks down to what it is: the good of the many vs the good of the individual.


p.s. substitute Kyle Rittenhouse for KR as I did....

Heh, I wouldn't think Vulf would be a group you would listen to.

from wikipedia:

An automatic firearm is an auto-loading firearm that continuously chambers and fires rounds when the trigger mechanism is actuated. The action of an automatic firearm is capable of harvesting the excess energy released from a previous discharge to feed a new ammunition round into the chamber, and then ignite the propellant and discharge the projectile (either bullet, shot, or slug) by delivering a hammer or striker impact on the primer.

Responsible people with guns were at the Uvdale shooting! They didn’t help!

Thread lock for “flame baiting” and “name calling”instead of bans on these people? Interesting.

it's about gun laws, Switzerland vs US

lol

So if the southern whites who were murdering the blacks weren't armed would the blacks have fared batter or worse ?

Show us the love !!