For sure you're one of my preferred posters too for different reasons entirely.
But yeah I really enjoy those street corner people and always thank them for their service.
It's a little bit of a myth though that I haven't made predictions. This isn't the theead to talk about them but I have. I'll bump some in the media thread.

Re points 1 & 2

1 - "proven" to whose standards? How can you make others accept proof?

2 - What if there is a 0.02% chance of side effects or there are known side effects in 0.02% but there is a 20% death rate amongst children in a spread where vaccines are not used?

Does the math matter to you or is your position an absolute where even a 0.0000001% known side effect rate would mean an answer of 'NO' even if it was known the death rate on spread would then be early ebola like 90%?

So the MMR vaccine... which you said was fascist

I admit I did not expect the leaving/potential closing thing to take place an hour after that, but the gig he did (which I thought he did reasonably well) was insane given the zero pay, and he knew my thoughts on that. Wish him well, and I would suggest others get in all the posts they can while they can! Lucky, if they get rid of this forum come visit the riggie thread as it would be genuinely entertaining to get your assessment on riggies and their beliefs. Best part there is literally nothing said in that thread is ever a serious issue, unlike some of the topics in this forum.

That is why I asked him this "proven" to whose standards?..."


Because if we have to wait for the dumbest amongst us to say they are convinced then we end up with a sort of reverse 'survival of the fittest' situation where literally the dumbest amongst us is driving health outcomes for all and causing a culling of the population of the smarter people.

A reverse Darwinism.

faraday box

BRIAN KEMP GOAT COVID Governor!

I mean the mass media is a lot more accurate and truthful than Q.

So the same criteria for every major vaccine in existence, including all the ones anti vaxxers claim are the debil.

There is only one qanon follower who posts in this forum afaict and he barely posts here. So I'm not sure why you're making this point.

You can't swing a cat in our scene w/o hitting a conspiracy guy--crank back the clock 25-30yrs and it's practically 100%. But it was absolutely a part of the calculus in the life decisions I made back then--it wasn't exactly a traditional career path to drop out of society and be a giant bud grower(with all the straight world goodies literally in the palm of my hands for the taking). So ya you could say I was pretty deep in it There were no guarantees we'd eventually have a path back. And it's not like we didn't/many still don't have absolutely valid reasons for being paranoid of govt outside of any other things that get dreamt up on top of it. I'm on the completely legal(assuming the Rs/trump don't decide to completely blow a gasket) side now but still have tons of friends on the other side. Too many of my old friends are on the legal side to write it off to selling out/buying in--they literally comprised the core of the scene before legal was ever an option and still kinda do--because that was the goal Looking at the legions of suburban Qbelievers only kinda reinforces it imo. re Bells--The reason I still have sympathies with that thinking is that not every word of it is false--best lies have some truth etc. there are plenty of elements of it that are true.

The bizarre thing is the totally straight-laced guys I was referring to--that used to make fun of/call conspiracy stuff crazy talk about that stuff now like it's accepted fact. That transition occurred so seamlessly I'm not sure they can even pinpoint when it happened. In most but not all(a few already were) cases it happened alongside them being turned into conservatives as we got older.

But to get back on topic you at least have to recognize it's kinda funny to choose the jungle as a place to go to avoid a vaccine--if you could even get there with a blanket mandate. When that spider bites your ass/or you get some freaky skin condition or get some other worse disease instead--avoiding that little flu shot is going to seem kinda silly.

sounds like communism

dont tread on me

q was just an example. but believing this is some intentional fake disease with a nefarious vaccine is the same level.

Probably still an intentional real disease with a nefarious vaccine.

People are generally much more visual so if you wanted to give people the impression that nothing really had changed when you, in fact have massive and dangerous changes, this is pretty smart.


It is amazing how much effort Republicans will put in to deceiving people after they screw up when they won't put any effort into doing things right in the first place.

Proven by the FDA.

Kewl. Then I'm on board with you guys for the vaccine.

This would be an innocent mistake, I'm betting. They probably just loaded in their time frame, probably the county stats for that day, and the software applied the breaks at whatever percentages of the max. The sense that the total number of cases is increasing is lost, but it never was really intended to be shown, just the relative difference between counties. It's a pretty common mistake.

lol, Canada is basically not letting the Blue Jays play in Toronto this year because American teams entering Canada and the Jays going to the US presents too much risk for Canada

America has become the undisputed shithole of North America!

Congratulations everyone we did it!

Haha! Welcome to the Hotel Hell Blue Jays. Check-in time is now, check-out time is never.

Good chance we will not see the OP here again before the forum is shut down to get an update on his "staff up" plan, but safe to say that the USA#1 will continue on its pretty impressive path unfortunately. Merica. Trump may get his dream before being booted from office - Canada and Mexico may indeed pay for walls.

Trump may fulfill his promise of a wall after all but at both borders and paid for by Canada and Mexico as both Canada and Mexico are fortifying to keep American's out.

Canada to inessential US travelers: Please stay home


Mexico town blocks road from U.S. border over fear of coronavirus outbreaks

I guess i could have just +1 your post if I saw it before writing mine.

Trump is trying to directly block funding for testing and track and tracing from the current working relief bill.

It is bad he never does the right thing but that he is constantly pushing in the opposite direction is much worse.