That's interesting, becasue he saying exactly that while denying he is saying that.

Here's your nuance: you just represented Nazis as "people saying stuff he does not like". **** off, Nazi lover.

Why does everyone keep saying violence is bad? It’s not even the last resort in many jurisdictions. Pacifists have long been stigmatized. What’s up with that front? If we all perform robotic routine condemnations of violence are you planning to be fooled?

I'm going to make a salient point. When do you get to punch me in the face for something you don't like me saying, and it be okay? Or vice versa? Who gets to decide?

The issue is, people will, and have started to equivocate racism to people and things that are not racist, and those attributing those racist things to others are becoming vigilantes. A true liberal will have an issue with this.

Out of curiosity, I googled for you: Owner of Local Bar Sues Joey Gibson After Fistfights And Pepper Spray On May Day

The Oregonian referenced only that as well:

I did a search of the thread and didn't find anything until yesterday, but I'm probably wrong so if you want to link to something that would be ok.

Dude, it wasn't laziness. I read the entire article that suzzer quoted. I googled it and didn't immediately find it. I might go read the hundred posts on the first page to find what you're talking about, and then read that article that may or may not have evidence.

It's the MS-13 playbook.

What, you don't care about victims of gang violence suzzer?

I'll give you the short answer, proud boys started as nationalist-type organization, and crept, or sped toward white nationalism.

Don't confuse being anti-violence with being a pacifist. It's a bit like confusing a vegetarian with a vegan.

But you're right, everyone doesn't say violence is bad - not even close. Some of us will keep saying it though.

Where are you getting these facts from? I saw a video of some street fighting and a report that someone was knocked unconscious.

The owner of the bar is now suing some of the Proudboys for a million dollars for damages.

Yeah, as if equating the vigilante group antifa with the allies of WWII is not enough of a tell. You call the cops and get people incarcerated for engaging in domestic political violence, you do not go get your brick, and confront them.

I don't know exactly where the line is, but genocide support is clearly over the "ok to face punch" line. The point is that I believe there is a line and you seem to be arguing there isn't. Maybe, hopefully, someday there won't need to be a line because propaganda will be effectively neutralized.

Notice the cops are wearing black uniforms; banned in the uk for fascist connotations. Smash the patriarchy, etc.

There are no words that would provoke me to becoming violent. If actions are taken by the other group that are illegal, I'd call the cops. I do not think the cops tolerate violence from any group. If the state became fascist, well, I have the 2A, before it's repealed.

Yet somehow we keep having violence regularly from RWNJs, despite "the cops".

My fault on that, the discussion on page one actually did not mention any broken bones so it would be easy to miss. The posts referenced the outing, or doxxing, of this person's name after she was sent to the hospital.

Weird how the group who blindly accepts Lyin' Andy Ngo's story about concrete milkshakes and brain damage magically can't do a lick of research.

Yep, but antifa aint the answer. General violence is way more prevalent than political violence from any group, in the US.

Point? We are not talking about you specifically though, are we?

Point? Are we talking about general violence now?


*salutes General Violence*

When watching the videos of Portland I couldn't help but notice, among everything else, just how terrifying the police look.

You don't show signs of masochism, WN. It would be interesting to know why you squander your time with this ****.

It does not appear you are concerned about violence, you are only concerned with a certain kind rhetoric (racist). I get it, you hate racist, but lets not pretend they contribute significantly to the violence in the US, when compared to all other kinds of violence, after all, you actually condone violence when someone says something racist.

I'm the one way saying the violence is bad, under most circumstances, you are the one saying violence is okay, in some circumstances, one being if someone is saying something racist, and one of your justifications is the violence by RWNJ's, and you don't seem to mind people deciding for themselves what's racist, after calling me a nazi lover for being critical of vigilante violence by antifa.

It’s your vigilante group- you said it: it’s your group, whatever you call it. I think antifa is already taken, but there is nothing stopping you from calling your vigilante group you invoked antifa as well.

Well here you are putting words in someone's mouth again. Anyway, I'll leave it for now, mentioning that violence is not the only damage done by racism, because we have another pressing matter to sort out.

You are misrepresenting yet again. I said speech supporting genocide is over the line. You now claim I said saying something racist is over the line. I never tried to justify that with anything about RWNJ violence. And I never said anything at all about people deciding for themselves what is racist. You are lying again.

Next, I didn't call you a Nazi lover for being critical of vigilante violence by antifa. I called you that because you equated Nazis with "people saying stuff he does not like" (see below). It was a pretty clear post I made and it's very dishonest to interpret it as me calling you that for dissing antifa.


You paraphrasing suzzer: Why should I care about antifa? What threat to they post to anyone who isn't marching with Nazis?

You: He is essentially saying his support for political violence is okay becasue I have not been vocal about these other groups (despite me repeatedly saying these groups are violent and just as intolerable), and his support for the violence is okay since the target of the violence is people saying stuff he does not like.



You posting privileges should be revoked for all this dishonesty which wastes everyone's time.