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10-01-2020 , 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerodox
It’s leftist bullshit that Wallace even asked him the question.
Wow, look how mad these "I wish Trump would tweet less" guys get when their Dear Leader is...asked easy questions on TV that he can't answer without making an embarrassment of himself LOLOL
10-01-2020 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Yes, it's a town hall. If you interrupt Biden's answer to a question from a voter, you effectively interrupted the voter. It's bad form.

It appears that Trump did not follow the debate strategy his team came up with and they practiced. Probably just got in a groove and thought it was going really well at the time. Fine line between aggressive and obnoxious. I'm sure he will watch the tape and they will prep him for the next one.
Is all of this just a troll and I'm not aware of your screen name?
10-01-2020 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerodox
It’s leftist bullshit that Wallace even asked him the question.
This actually makes me, again, think of this amazing Chris Hayes tweet:



pdox is crying his ****ing eyes out about Trump asked being this DANGEROUSLY UNFAIR LEFTIST QUESTION that caused him to vomit all over the stage, as if it was a giant, unanswerable GOTCHA designed to own Trump and not a simple question with a simple, easy answer that could have ended with Trump looking reasonable and presidential. You saw Inso0 posting the same apologia last night, wondering how one could possibly expect Trump to get in 20 words condemning white supremacy, ignoring that he had no issue getting in 30 words to blame antifa and then 40 to tell the Proud Boys to stand by and blame antifa some more.

Conservatives are the most persecuted people on the planet, just look at them melt down over this pathetic **** with a Fox News moderator. Christ, their bawling over the next two debates is going to be insufferable. "You can't just ask Donald Trump questions, it's SO UNFAIR!"
10-01-2020 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
Trump clarifies comments, says Proud Boys and others should stand down and let law enforcement do their work. Answered and shut.
you realize he said that po-po will do the proud boys' work, right? it's not even the quiet part out loud, it's marching orders.
10-01-2020 , 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerodox
"In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacy," Mr Trump said on Monday. "These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate has no place in America."

It’s leftist bullshit that Wallace even asked him the question.

Read the quote above again. That’s in a BBC article.
wow, luckily for him white supremacists don't read bbc articles.
10-01-2020 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
This actually makes me, again, think of this amazing Chris Hayes tweet:



pdox is crying his ****ing eyes out about Trump asked being this DANGEROUSLY UNFAIR LEFTIST QUESTION that caused him to vomit all over the stage, as if it was a giant, unanswerable GOTCHA designed to own Trump and not a simple question with a simple, easy answer that could have ended with Trump looking reasonable and presidential. You saw Inso0 posting the same apologia last night, wondering how one could possibly expect Trump to get in 20 words condemning white supremacy, ignoring that he had no issue getting in 30 words to blame antifa and then 40 to tell the Proud Boys to stand by and blame antifa some more.

Conservatives are the most persecuted people on the planet, just look at them melt down over this pathetic **** with a Fox News moderator. Christ, their bawling over the next two debates is going to be insufferable. "You can't just ask Donald Trump questions, it's SO UNFAIR!"

Have to agree there, "are you willing, tonight, to condemn white supremacist and militia groups" is completely softball. Pair it with the context it was given in "You have repeatedly criticized the vice president [Biden] for not calling out Antifa and other left-wing extremist groups", and then it is not only softball, but essentially laying up the shot perfectly.

You go: "Of course. Unlike Biden who must answer to the radical left and Antifa, we stand for law and order. White supremacy has no place in our society. Unlike Democrats we do not want thugs roaming our streets, making our citizens unsafe and burning down the businesses of hard-working American citizens ".

(The above if we assume a certain level of demagoguery, which is a fairly safe bet these days)

What you don't do is interrupt the moderator, mumble "sure", rant about Antifa and then tell a specific white supremacy group to "back down and stand by", and later on excuse it all by claiming you don't know who they are.
10-01-2020 , 05:06 AM
Mark Hamill tweet:
“That debate was the worst thing that I have ever seen & I was in the Star Wars Holiday Special”
10-01-2020 , 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wet work
So why do every one of those guys seem to think trump is their god-emperor? Clearly they've gotten a different message.

Has Joe Biden disavowed the endorsement from Richard Spencer yet?
10-01-2020 , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Smudger2408
He is labeling the KKK a terrorist organization. Something Obama never did in his 8 years.
Ah, well that settles it then.
10-01-2020 , 08:01 AM
Trump doesn't denounce the Proud Boys.

Biden does denounce The Green New Deal and M4a.

#lolDems
10-01-2020 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
lol

Biden ran in the primary on a policy of denying health care to millions while the few that do qualify need to pay almost all of their income to the insurance companies.

hes bragged about how many times hes tried to cut social security. him and Obama came damn close.

him and Obama exploded the handouts to the military.

and ofc handouts to businesses.

and he was the VP that helped the deporter in chief destroy more immigrant communities than any previous president by a massive margin.

your whole game is saying look at how bad these awful Republicans are when the Dems are almost nearly as bad. and they keep moving to the right and getting worse.

like, you dont have to carry water for them. but you do. so at least own it.

The Democrats used to be nearly as bad. I'd say now, with the open shift to welcoming and courting conservatives over members of their own party they're officially the same.

A democracy without an opposition party and/or a party that represents the voters isn't going to last very long.

But.....Trump !!!!!
10-01-2020 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Has Joe Biden disavowed the endorsement from Richard Spencer yet?
oh ya I'm sure the Heil Trump!! guy is being totally serious about Biden lol
10-01-2020 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerodox
"In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacy," Mr Trump said on Monday. "These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate has no place in America."

It’s leftist bullshit that Wallace even asked him the question.

Read the quote above again. That’s in a BBC article.
far right militias are harassing and literally murdering people that are lawfully practicing the first amendment to stand up for their rights. these groups overwhelmingly support Trump and even act in his name. so its certainly a legitimate question to ask the president what he thinks about these groups. and even more so when he praised them as very fine people days after murdering an innocent women.

however, it is really not surprising that you would consider uppity black people upset over police murdering them to be "leftist bullshit." you have been trained well.
10-01-2020 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by VoteForSocialists
wow, luckily for him white supremacists don't read bbc articles.
This right here

The whole stand by thing was pathetic. People noticed though. Too bad biden waded into the muck some. Some of the quotes out of the debate are of the school ground ilk
10-01-2020 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by VoteForSocialists
you realize he said that po-po will do the proud boys' work, right? it's not even the quiet part out loud, it's marching orders.
ya people are focusing on the "stand by" part but when he said "something must be done about antifa" immediately after and while referencing leo it was clearly a "meddlesome priest" moment.
10-01-2020 , 09:50 AM
Trumpers trying to argue that any response to that question other than "white supremacy bad" is in any way acceptable is pretty lol. Just saying all the quiet parts out loud now.
10-01-2020 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Trumpers trying to argue that any response to that question other than "white supremacy bad" is in any way acceptable is pretty lol. Just saying all the quiet parts out loud now.
Does the asking of the question in itself be viewed as a victory for the biden supporters?
10-01-2020 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerodox
"In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacy," Mr Trump said on Monday. "These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate has no place in America."

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That would have been an excellent answer to Wallace’s question. Too bad your boy Trump was so brain-addled that he couldn’t manage a basic question.
10-01-2020 , 10:04 AM
Bundy seems broken or something.
10-01-2020 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerodox
It’s leftist bullshit that Wallace even asked him the question.
What a load of ****. As numerous people in this thread have pointed out, this isn't a gotcha question. It's the easiest question in the world to answer. It's an undefended layup. Most Congressional Republicans are dying for Trump to get asked that question and give a clean answer. Then they can run around for however long and talk about how Democrats are the real racists, something something, because Trump said that the he didn't want the support of white supremacists.

The fact that Trump is too big of an idiot to give the proper extemporaneous answer to that question, despite being given repeated opportunities over the course of his presidency to do so, is hardly Chris Wallace's fault.
10-01-2020 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
Does the asking of the question in itself be viewed as a victory for the biden supporters?
Seems like it was a softball question that Trump butchered.

Not that it matters. His voters don't care and it won't sway anyone on the fence.
10-01-2020 , 10:20 AM
The funny thing about everyone not American watching the debates. We all watched it as we new it be entertaining as a whole. America is a reality series and you just keep adding new twists and turns.
We all get that Trump was gonna be Trump But when your other candidates best expectations is that he is coherent and does not screw up. We go that is your best after you had Hilary given a slam dunk easy lay up and blew it.
Its almost as if you deserve 4 more years of Trump.
10-01-2020 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
Does the asking of the question in itself be viewed as a victory for the biden supporters?
I guess in these times asking the president of the United States if he thinks Nazis are bad is to be considered a victory.

I mean, jesus, even the Nazis themselves know they are bad and how the president should answer that question, yet you seem to be at a loss. Seriously, what is wrong with you?

Last edited by d2_e4; 10-01-2020 at 10:27 AM.
10-01-2020 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
The fact that Trump is too big of an idiot to give the proper extemporaneous answer to that question, despite being given repeated opportunities over the course of his presidency to do so, is hardly noted leftist Chris Wallace's fault.
FYP.
10-01-2020 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
Does the asking of the question in itself be viewed as a victory for the biden supporters?
Of course not. If anything, that was Chris Wallace putting the ball on a tee for Trump. If I had been Trump, and Chris Wallace had asked me before the debate whether I wanted him to ask that question, I would have said, "please do." Trump's inability to make contact when the ball is sitting on a tee isn't some sort of victory for Biden supporters. It's a loss for the entire country.

      
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