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10-07-2024 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
people who assume you are a stupid ****ing idiot and would never check their work. Are they right?
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10-07-2024 , 09:58 PM
Bye bye Kamala...
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10-07-2024 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
Bye bye Kamala...
You leaving?
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10-07-2024 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TookashotatChan
Haha this forum is comedic gold.
I said immigration in general is our secret sauce, but yes that include illegal immigrants
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10-07-2024 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
I said immigration in general is our secret sauce, but yes that include illegal immigrants
if you have the best steak house in the world but serve terrible salads, you can't claim your whole menu is the best in the world, nor justify the bad quality salad through the high quality steaks
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10-07-2024 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
Per Capita is a meaningless statistic



Wrong.



That tweet is showing numbers of immigrants that were released back into Mexico. A cursory glance at the ICE report (the source for the tweet) would show you that you are being blatantly lied to by people who assume you are a stupid ****ing idiot and would never check their work. Are they right?
per Capita GDP growth is what makes you and your family live better, not total GDP.

if you annex India your GDP grows but given you are going to transfer them a lot of money in perpetuity after annexation, the quality of life of all Americans would decrease significantly.

source your claim about second generation central Americans earning more than American white natives
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10-07-2024 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorgonian
I don't know what back means to you. I was born in Calgary, went to school in Calgary and Edmonton, went to the USA on an H1B to work in the medical field, employer extended it, I applied for citizenship and still live in the USA. I go back to Calgary to visit family and catch a hockey game from time to time. Hope that clears it up?
Small world.
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10-07-2024 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
I said immigration in general is our secret sauce, but yes that include illegal immigrants
Does it include near 90% European immigration from 1776-1965?
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10-07-2024 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorgonian
I don't know what back means to you. I was born in Calgary, went to school in Calgary and Edmonton, went to the USA on an H1B to work in the medical field, employer extended it, I applied for citizenship and still live in the USA. I go back to Calgary to visit family and catch a hockey game from time to time. Hope that clears it up?
why did you move to a country that is far to the right of your political preferences coming from one which seems to be more or less where you are at politically?

better economic and professional opportunities?

didn't it come to you that those opportunities exist exactly only because the country is to the right of your original one?
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10-07-2024 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
why did you move to a country that is far to the right of your political preferences coming from one which seems to be more or less where you are at politically?

better economic and professional opportunities?

didn't it come to you that those opportunities exist exactly only because the country is to the right of your original one?
It probably doesn't occur to him. He's also the reason why Canada's health care system is so strained: doctors, nurses and other medical professionals leveraging relatively cheap education to escape low salaries and insanely high taxes and live off our tit. And now he takes his smug Canadian sensibilities and spouts off like he knows better when he's here.

I say keep the Mexicans, and deport every last one these ****ing Canadians. I've never met one I liked.
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10-07-2024 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
per Capita GDP growth is what makes you and your family live better, not total GDP.

if you annex India your GDP grows but given you are going to transfer them a lot of money in perpetuity after annexation, the quality of life of all Americans would decrease significantly.

source your claim about second generation central Americans earning more than American white natives
And if you have a tax haven and attract a lot of rich people your per capita GDP goes up for very marginal benefit to the average person.

And if per capita gdp goes down but the price of goods and services goes down because of a more competitive labor market this is also a good thing.

Quantitative in economics only gets you so far.
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10-07-2024 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TookashotatChan
It probably doesn't occur to him. He's also the reason why Canada's health care system is so strained: doctors, nurses and other medical professionals leveraging relatively cheap education to escape low salaries and insanely high taxes and live off our tit. And now he takes his smug Canadian sensibilities and spouts off like he knows better when he's here.

I say keep the Mexicans, and deport every last one these ****ing Canadians. I've never met one I liked.
He’s an American citizen, he can’t be deported.
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10-07-2024 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
per Capita GDP growth is what makes you and your family live better, not total GDP.

if you annex India your GDP grows but given you are going to transfer them a lot of money in perpetuity after annexation, the quality of life of all Americans would decrease significantly.

source your claim about second generation central Americans earning more than American white natives
Basically impossible since immigrants become more "white" over time.



As for annexing India, we aren't annexing Central America. They come to America and produce American value. Americans aren't subsidizing anything
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10-07-2024 , 10:31 PM
For those that can't read, I literally answered why I came to the USA in my previous post. To work in the field I was interested in at a research facility that specializes in it. And I've added yet another absolutely worthless poster to my ignore list.
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10-07-2024 , 10:32 PM
Luciom will return to us 2 weeks. He can’t respond.
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10-07-2024 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
He’s an American citizen, he can’t be deported.
Neither can illegal immigrants, at least by the current administration.
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10-07-2024 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by checkraisdraw
And if you have a tax haven and attract a lot of rich people your per capita GDP goes up for very marginal benefit to the average person.

And if per capita gdp goes down but the price of goods and services goes down because of a more competitive labor market this is also a good thing.

Quantitative in economics only gets you so far.
Yeah, clearly Monaco is the ideal set up for a country of 350 million
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10-07-2024 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TookashotatChan
Neither can illegal immigrants, at least by the current administration.
For someone who came in guns blazing on this forum falsely whining about logical fallacies you sure do use a lot of them. This isn’t twitter, you’re not performing for the MAGA hivemind. No updoots to be found here.
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10-07-2024 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TookashotatChan
Neither can illegal immigrants, at least by the current administration.
Brother, there is a post like 10 posts up showing where 7 million ICE detainees have been deported in the last 3 years
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10-07-2024 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TookashotatChan
It probably doesn't occur to him. He's also the reason why Canada's health care system is so strained: doctors, nurses and other medical professionals leveraging relatively cheap education to escape low salaries and insanely high taxes and live off our tit. And now he takes his smug Canadian sensibilities and spouts off like he knows better when he's here.

I say keep the Mexicans, and deport every last one these ****ing Canadians. I've never met one I liked.
lol ….
U.S. got like 10x the population of Canada .

How come they couldn’t find one American to fill out the job then ?
Yup your education system seem to suck badly or just bad workers …

Ps: all countries got some problems in healthcare .
Even the US… and by far !
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10-07-2024 , 10:54 PM
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10-07-2024 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian James
Witnessing the aftermath is not witnessing the shooting.
But shrapnel grazing your ear is taking a bullet for democracy.
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10-07-2024 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
That tweet is showing numbers of immigrants that were released back into Mexico. A cursory glance at the ICE report (the source for the tweet) would show you that you are being blatantly lied to by people who assume you are a stupid ****ing idiot and would never check their work. Are they right?

You are totally incorrect of course, but the point that you are completely missing is that these people shouldn't be entering the country in the first place.

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More than 13,000 immigrants convicted of homicide — either in the United States or abroad — are living freely in the U.S., outside of Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention, according to data ICE provided to Congress earlier this week.

The immigrants are part of ICE’s “non-detained” docket, meaning the agency has some information on the immigrants and they have pending immigration cases in the U.S., but they are not currently in detention either because they are not prioritized for detention or because ICE cannot find them.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/28/immi...migration.html

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McALLEN, Texas (Border Report) — The head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement told a Texas border lawmaker this week that 435,000 undocumented migrants with criminal convictions have been released by the agency to cities around the United States.
https://www.borderreport.com/immigra...ns-data-shows/

Last edited by Brian James; 10-08-2024 at 12:16 AM.
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10-08-2024 , 10:53 AM
The NYT's "The Daily" podcast today makes the case that NAFTA is what lead to the political landscape we have today, moving Democrats away from their core labor support in the rustbelt, with Republicans stepping in to take over.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/08/p...pgtype=Article
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