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10-07-2024 , 01:50 PM

#13876

AquaSwing

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,407

Also:

Mature, well developed adults are capable of admitting when they are wrong.

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10-07-2024 , 01:57 PM

#13877

TookashotatChan

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2021 Posts: 516

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Originally Posted by coordi

Lozen isn't a mature well developed adult so not sure what point you are trying to make.

Do you shame children too?

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Mature, well developed adults are capable of admitting when they are wrong.

Definitely true. Well developed adults also usually leave conversations with people who don't/won't.

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10-07-2024 , 02:01 PM

#13878

d2_e4

certifiable moron

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 18,271

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Originally Posted by TookashotatChan

Shaming others comes from being shamed in childhood; it's a vicious circle. Mature, well developed adults are capable of having dialogue without shaming each other.

What, in your view, would the appropriate social sanction be for someone who lies, has it pointed out, and continues to lie for years on end?

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10-07-2024 , 02:05 PM

#13879

d2_e4

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Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 18,271

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Originally Posted by TookashotatChan

Definitely true. Well developed adults also usually leave conversations with people who don't/won't.

First time chatting on the internet?

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10-07-2024 , 02:06 PM

#13880

lozen

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Originally Posted by coordi

lmao

The proof you seek was even posted in this thread.

Here you go though:

Do you feel a rush of shame? You should, because this whole sequence was pathetic

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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte

Another lie.

https://www.eonline.com/news/1405303...oke-mind-virus

This is why you never learn and never improve and are considered fundamentally dishonest. How hard would that have been to look up? Hardly any more effort than lying. Not everyone can go to college or write above the level of the bottom quartile, but I don't think it's unfair to hold you to the same standard I would a child or an average adult. Especially if you are not just asking for help with your deficiencies but actively criticizing others.

This is were you are totally dishonest. He acknowledges his son but his son is dead to him. Its very common for a child or a parent to say they are dead to me .

You dem culties just hate it when your called out for your hypocrisy and were I clearly prove the ones with no family values are the latest president and his son and the next presidents spouse.

How disgusting is it when you lie about the fact your son witnessed a school shotting and its a lie oh wait he misspoke

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10-07-2024 , 02:09 PM

#13881

coordi

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Originally Posted by TookashotatChan

Do you shame children too?

Definitely true. Well developed adults also usually leave conversations with people who don't/won't.

lozen isn't a child either

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10-07-2024 , 02:12 PM

#13882

coordi

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Originally Posted by lozen

Apparently good family values = claiming your daughter is dead because you want them to be your son and generally not having any sort of familial unit while pawning all parenting off on the hired help

Bad family values = maintaining a tight and loving familial unit

Can't argue with that folks.

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10-07-2024 , 02:14 PM

#13883

ecriture d'adulte

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Originally Posted by lozen

This is were you are totally dishonest. He acknowledges his son but his son is dead to him. Its very common for a child or a parent to say they are dead to me .

Lol....Yes. Saying a child is dead to them is a synonym for saying they no longer knowledge said child's existence.

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10-07-2024 , 02:15 PM

#13884

Gorgonian

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,935

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Originally Posted by lozen

This is were you are totally dishonest. He acknowledges his son but his son is dead to him.

Saying your son is dead to you is the EXACT OPPOSITE of acknowledging them.

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10-07-2024 , 02:16 PM

#13885

Luciom

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Originally Posted by coordi

I am not sure what the argument is here, has Musk championed "traditional* family values?

Maybe he has, but afaik he championed making a ton of kids and he did that, that's already a form of coherence that isn't very common.

And one of the many reasons you need to make a lot of kids (if you can afford it) is that some will be lost hopes no matter what, and you want your bloodline to go on so you need enough to abate variance.

We almost solved kid mortality these days but the left actually kills people psyche often enough so you have to make many to account for that.

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10-07-2024 , 02:16 PM

#13886

Gorgonian

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

First time chatting on the internet?

Apparently he considers himself the tone police and thinks his job is to go around the forum and chastise people for the tone they are using. It does seem to be only people on one side of the political spectrum whose tone is not appropriate, of course, but you know, all part of the fun.

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10-07-2024 , 02:18 PM

#13887

Luciom

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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte

Lol....Yes. Saying a child is dead to them is a synonym for saying they no longer knowledge said child's existence.

They do but they don't consider that their kid anymore (for the purpose of investing upon them and so on).

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10-07-2024 , 02:21 PM

#13888

ecriture d'adulte

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Originally Posted by lozen

How disgusting is it when you lie about the fact your son witnessed a school shotting and its a lie oh wait he misspoke

https://www.fox9.com/news/vp-debate-...essed-shooting

At this point I can only recommend getting some form of help. This is pathological and not normal.

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10-07-2024 , 02:26 PM

#13889

d2_e4

certifiable moron

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 18,271

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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte

https://www.fox9.com/news/vp-debate-...essed-shooting

At this point I can only recommend getting some form of help. This is pathological and not normal.

Hold fire there bro. New guy is about to teach us how to best handle these sorts of situations. "Pathological" has negative connotations so we should probably take a minute to appreciate its gravitas before just throwing it about.

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10-07-2024 , 02:29 PM

#13890

Brian James

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2023 Posts: 1,623

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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte

https://www.fox9.com/news/vp-debate-...essed-shooting

At this point I can only recommend getting some form of help. This is pathological and not normal.

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But Gus Walz was indeed at the center during the shooting, and though he didn’t directly see the shooting itself, he witnessed the aftermath.

Witnessing the aftermath is not witnessing the shooting.

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10-07-2024 , 02:38 PM

#13891

ecriture d'adulte

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Originally Posted by Brian James

Witnessing the aftermath is not witnessing the shooting.

Lol. I love the different standards you guys switch back and forth from. If someone accuses me of lying its "Is there some possible way to interpret my words in such a way that I am telling the truth, if so not a lie". When I accuse someone else of lying, it's "Is there a possible way to interpret the words they say in such a way that it's a lie, if so it's a lie." No sane, intelligent person could possibly think Lozen is using words in any consistent manner other than what does he need them to mean at any given moment in order to make his ridiculous case.

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10-07-2024 , 02:41 PM

#13892

TookashotatChan

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2021 Posts: 516

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

What, in your view, would the appropriate social sanction be for someone who lies, has it pointed out, and continues to lie for years on end?

I dunno, which one are you using with him now?

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10-07-2024 , 02:42 PM

#13893

d2_e4

certifiable moron

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 18,271

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Originally Posted by TookashotatChan

I dunno, which one are you using with him now?

Shame, the one you complained about. Keep up, slowcoach.

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10-07-2024 , 02:44 PM

#13894

pocket_zeros

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,023

Trump has moved on to the eugenics phase of his racism.

Mediaite: Trump Says There Are Migrants in the U.S. With ‘Bad Genes’ in Chilling Rant

How about allowing people to come to an open border, 13,000 of which were murderers, many of them murdered far more than one person, and they’re now happily living in the United States. You know, now a murderer — I believe this — it’s in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now. They left, they had 425,000 people come into our country that shouldn’t be here that are criminals. And, you know, one of the worst has 325,000 young children are missing. Can you imagine if that was Biden? No, no, can you imagine if that was Trump?

Source: https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump...chilling-rant/

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10-07-2024 , 02:44 PM

#13895

Luckbox Inc

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Give them either the Pinnochio or the little boy who cried wolf treatment.

You can't shame people who have no shame.

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10-07-2024 , 02:44 PM

#13896

TookashotatChan

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2021 Posts: 516

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

Lol

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10-07-2024 , 02:45 PM

#13897

TookashotatChan

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2021 Posts: 516

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

Shame, the one you complained about. Keep up, slowcoach.

How's it working out?

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10-07-2024 , 02:48 PM

#13898

d2_e4

certifiable moron

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 18,271

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Originally Posted by TookashotatChan

How's it working out?

It's fulfilling the punitive and retributive objectives. The rehabilitative objective, alas, is not always attainable.

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10-07-2024 , 02:52 PM

#13899

TookashotatChan

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2021 Posts: 516

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

It's fulfilling the punitive and retributive objectives. The rehabilitative objective, alas, is not always attainable.

Lol at least it makes you feel better

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10-07-2024 , 02:55 PM

#13900

coordi

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Originally Posted by TookashotatChan

Lol at least it makes you feel better

How are you feeling about your jaunt into shaming the shamers?

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