vote please

I vote gtfo

There's another thread that talks about this. No need for another thread. Welcome to the forum. And get used to the above...

Trolling?

A no content thread on something that's already been discussed ad nauseum and gets half the forum to foam at the mouth discussing.

Sigh.

...and yes, stars should totally get rid of their most popular, highest rake producing tables.

Please drop them so SS'rs have more of an edge

Most complained about, most bot targeted, most cheated, most destruction of competitive gambling as we know it, tables, in all of internet poker, offered exclusively by PokerStars and nobody else.

There's no evidence that they're the highest rake producing, and that's kind of irrelevant anyway considering getting rid of them wouldn't eliminate any of the rake being produced at them, it'd just send the players to generate the same rake at other tables that aren't so problematic and abusive and horrible.

Most of the people beating those games are doing so only through the PokerStars rewards program. So the tables also kind of reinvent poker into something ugly where poker players are looking to the proprietor to provide their winnings for them, rather than the poker players distributing winnings among themselves.

Worst, most corrupt, most cheated tables in all of internet poker. More bots in PokerStars 20-50bb tables than any other cash game type on any site in all of internet poker.

Here we go again.

If you're playing a 20-50bb 6max table it's not uncommon that you'd be sitting with 5 bots.

Botters target 20-50bb because they can buy in for 20bb, which lowers their stack size in relation to the size of the big blind, which limits the number of situations the botters need to program and limits the complexity of the decisions so that a bot can replicate winning strategy.

Botter paradise.

I am a bot, my only weakness is sleep and hunger

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Yes, make every table at least 50bb >: ]

these threads brings out the excitement in me

just need more time to develop

uh, no. i mean, yes to the part about it being a more appealing format for bots, but no to it not being uncommon that you're sitting with 5 bots. i'm pretty sure that's actually somewhat uncommon.

Some other threads you may find interesting

- Poll: PokerStars need to introduce 10bb tables to help the shortstackers
- Poll: The Zoo needs more threads about 20-50bb tables
- Poll: OP fails at poasting, and at life in general

I call bull****. Evidence?

Programmers are getting pretty smart these days apparently, programming bots to complain about suckouts in chat, post on 2+2, and talk to me on skype.



Wait wait wait... so you're saying more people beat the game when given rakeback, than when they aren't? I am stunned.

man duz he sound desperate

i heard ur local burger king is hiring

and also whopper > mac
but the angus > steak house xt

tho i rec ppl go mcd now for snack wraps cuz i dont like when the buns get too cold in da winter

but the foilz make dem wraps warm and soft

finally a place for courteous and productive discourse on the topic.

I say they keep them so we can make more threads to complain about them.

Oh really?

I understand why people don't like the 20-50 BB games because they draw the fish and it's not as complicated as deeper stacked poker. But, I would say that 20 BB NLHE is just as legitimate a game as 100 BB NLHE, SnGs, LHE, and any other form of poker. Ratholing is essentially turning the game into a 20 BB cap game.

I'm playing on one right now. Just had my 3 bet shove called by a short stack who tanked and then flipped over AQ. Course I had AK and course a queen hit. So they shouldn't ban these tables they should just add no suckout tables! Oh wait, sadly there's already a link somewhere proposing a no suck-out site.

But no, keep the tables. They're so boring - just make sure not to program your bots to experience boredom and you're laughing.

conspiracy itt.

It amazes me that people constantly complain about the shallow tables on Stars but ignore the fact FTP created them first. I don't see the problem with giving players the choice to buyin short or with 100bb.

With that said I don't even play NL cash :P

shrugs would be nice, but ratholing absolutely needs to go, so bad in many ways can't believe pokerstars has effectively endorsed this as the 'standard' way to play cash games, really short sighted that

And it amazes me that people who don't even play NL cash, feel the need to give their irrelevant 2 cents about NL cash.

I guess now we both get to be amazed.