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11-26-2011 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by lnternet
If it weren't for the 2k offer to stop talking about it, I'd say OP is guilty of something.
I'm going to have to agree with this. If Party poker has nothing to hide they wouldn't offer a dime in my opinion. That is admitting to something in the wrong.
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11-26-2011 , 09:20 AM
It'd be nice to finally get a precedent set here, but it's pretty much a guarantee that this ends up with a settlement out of court and an NDA.
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11-26-2011 , 01:29 PM
I think it's unscrupulous employees, who try to steal your money.
It is a deplorable practice mafia, disgusting and it is not the first time it happens! Do not be fooled by these robbers.
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11-26-2011 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
I'm pretty sure you can't sue someone for defamation for telling the truth. As long as OP hasn't lied about anything they don't have a leg to stand on with those threats. They just want him to shut up.

Despicable behavior.
But then, as with all these cases, we don't know if OP is lying or not. It's not unheard of in these sorts of cases.
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11-26-2011 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FrenchSkip
- speaking about diffamation for what is going on on Internet forums

Vgg
Plase please please don't fall for this. These are just attempts to flip the script on you, or Op, one of the cheapest tactics known in these sort of conflicts. Don't even acknowledge it, it is an attempt to exhaust the you and make you lose time.
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11-26-2011 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludovic Banhammer
But then, as with all these cases, we don't know if OP is lying or not. It's not unheard of in these sorts of cases.
Based on multiple posters confirming the story from the French forums, it seems pretty legit to me.

But of course we don't know 100% for sure what happened, we never do. I don't see anything in this particular case that leads me to believe OP is lying, however.
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11-26-2011 , 07:46 PM
any update OP?
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11-26-2011 , 08:22 PM
it would be really good if a Party person would stop by here.
this shouldn't be too hard to clarify. I certainly don't buy the story that the account was locked for no reason and that they tried to shut him up with 2k. Party doesn't seem to be that sort of company who is looking for profits via shady business practises while they try to make sure to stay on the save side of things in general (e.g. when they pulled out of the US some years ago)

I mean yes, accounts of people who have done nothing wrong get locked regularly (and checked) and then they get reopened if everything is fine. no account stays locked for no reason.

I am curious whether the part regarding the 2k is just completely made up or whether it is based on some sort of misunderstanding/getting lost in translation. maybe OP was found guilty for chipdumping or multiaccount but it turned out that 2k of profit were actually legit and he could keep that. IF he really got offered 2k, there will certainly be an interesting reason.
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11-26-2011 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
Probably PP noticed there was actually a winning poker player from France, so they just assumed it must be cheating......
lmfao
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11-26-2011 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by himomitsme
it would be really good if a Party person would stop by here.
this shouldn't be too hard to clarify. I certainly don't buy the story that the account was locked for no reason and that they tried to shut him up with 2k. Party doesn't seem to be that sort of company who is looking for profits via shady business practises while they try to make sure to stay on the save side of things in general (e.g. when they pulled out of the US some years ago)

I mean yes, accounts of people who have done nothing wrong get locked regularly (and checked) and then they get reopened if everything is fine. no account stays locked for no reason.

I am curious whether the part regarding the 2k is just completely made up or whether it is based on some sort of misunderstanding/getting lost in translation. maybe OP was found guilty for chipdumping or multiaccount but it turned out that 2k of profit were actually legit and he could keep that. IF he really got offered 2k, there will certainly be an interesting reason.

I highly doubt they are going to comment on this thread. Don't think for a minute just because a company seems to do everything correct that sometimes they do something out of the ordinary. I seen many respectable companies make mistakes and I would not doubt that party poker could make a mistake. They might not have made a mistake but I am not going to side with a company just because they have done right in the past.

I really hate how these companies can accuse someone of something and never have to provide proof of anything. They always cite things like privacy agreements. Ebay is one of the worst when it comes to things like that. I have never had anything happen to me in poker thankfully. I did think I did something wrong once Black Friday came and couldn't play on stars though.
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12-04-2011 , 01:31 PM
Few new details:
I am blamed for having played against 4 different accounts created on the same day and from the same IP address.
PartyPoker still refuses to give the user ids of those players. On the other hand they made some comments about one or several hands played against each player which can prove chipdump according to them.

Here are the evidence:

    Party, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11227392

    Hero (BB): $1,544.10 (386 bb)
    SB: $416.40 (104.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 T
    SB raises to $12, Hero raises to $40, SB calls $28

    Flop: ($80) 3 8 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $52, SB calls $52

    Turn: ($184) 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $108, SB calls $108

    River: ($400) J (2 players)
    Hero bets $298.50, SB calls $216.40 and is all-in

    Results: $832.80 pot ($2 rake)
    Final Board: 3 8 9 7 J
    Hero showed 6 T and won $830.80 ($414.40 net)
    SB mucked 2 2 and lost (-$416.40 net)



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    In their explanations regarding this hand they blame the other player for paying 3 barrels with the lowest pair possible. They state that it is impossible for me to be bluffing in this spot because of the money that is in the pot and because of the continuous betting. Their explanation (in their own words) is very confused and hard to understand as they do not seem to know the basic poker vocabulary and they mix up terms such as « call, bet or raise ».

    Next hands, player is blamed for paying two barrels on the two first hands of the HU without a pair and then giving up on the river. You can see that on the first hand it’s this player who barrels and not me but apparently it is the same for them.

      Party, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11227402

      Hero (BB): $430.80 (107.7 bb)
      SB: $370 (92.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A 9
      SB raises to $12, Hero calls $8

      Flop: ($24) 4 4 A (2 players)
      Hero checks, SB bets $16.80, Hero calls $16.80

      Turn: ($57.60) J (2 players)
      Hero checks, SB bets $41.70, Hero calls $41.70

      River: ($141) T (2 players)
      Hero checks, SB checks

      Results: $141 pot ($2 rake)
      Final Board: 4 4 A J T
      Hero showed A 9 and won $139 ($68.50 net)
      SB mucked 2 K and lost (-$70.50 net)



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        Party, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11227412

        Hero (SB): $505.70 (126.4 bb)
        BB: $392 (98 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with J Q
        Hero raises to $12, BB calls $8

        Flop: ($24) Q K 4 (2 players)
        BB checks, Hero bets $16.80, BB calls $16.80

        Turn: ($57.60) 9 (2 players)
        BB checks, Hero checks

        River: ($57.60) 3 (2 players)
        BB checks, Hero checks

        Results: $57.60 pot ($2.00 rake)
        Final Board: Q K 4 9 3
        Hero showed J Q and won $55.60 ($26.80 net)
        BB showed 7 J and lost (-$28.80 net)



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        Next, the third hand of the HU called their attention as player has a strong hand this time (a straight) that he decides to check on the river whereas he was, according to PartyPoker, sure to win the hand and should have bet the river. So regarding his beahvior on the first two hands, this third hand is easily qualified of cheating.





          Party, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11227432

          Hero (BB): $532.50 (133.1 bb)
          SB: $363.20 (90.8 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with Q 8
          SB raises to $12, Hero calls $8

          Flop: ($24) 5 4 2 (2 players)
          Hero checks, SB bets $16.80, Hero raises to $48, SB calls $31.20

          Turn: ($120) 3 (2 players)
          Hero bets $72, SB calls $72

          River: ($264) K (2 players)
          Hero checks, SB checks

          Results: $264 pot ($2 rake)
          Final Board: 5 4 2 3 K
          Hero showed Q 8 and lost (-$132 net)
          SB showed Q A and won $262 ($130 net)



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          Here is the last hand, player is blamed for paying two barrels without a pair (like for the previous hands) and for shoving the river with his top pair against my trips.





            Party, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11227442

            Hero (SB): $1,192.87 (198.8 bb)
            BB: $339.33 (56.6 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 6
            Hero raises to $18, BB calls $12

            Flop: ($36) 8 4 4 (2 players)
            BB checks, Hero bets $25.50, BB calls $25.50

            Turn: ($87) 3 (2 players)
            BB checks, Hero bets $63.75, BB calls $63.75

            River: ($214.50) J (2 players)
            BB checks, Hero bets $159.37, BB raises to $232.08, Hero calls $72.71

            Results: $678.66 pot ($2.00 rake)
            Final Board: 8 4 4 3 J
            Hero showed 4 6 and won $676.66 ($337.33 net)
            BB mucked A J and lost (-$339.33 net)



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            Besides that they say the 4 accounts have been created with « inconsistent data » and that validation documents have not been sent (on .fr you have to validate your account by sending proof of ID + bank details). So they verify strictly nothing and confiscate my money. I’ll let you judge.

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            12-04-2011 , 02:05 PM
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            Originally Posted by norii
            Next, the third hand of the HU called their attention as player has a strong hand this time (a straight) that he decides to check on the river whereas he was, according to PartyPoker, sure to win the hand and should have bet the river. So regarding his beahvior on the first two hands, this third hand is easily qualified of cheating.
            that's totally ******ed thinking on their part, it's not like you'd want to call that bet. him checking it back or not doesn't make a difference to how much he wins on that hand (knowing the hole cards), and that particular hand is hardly a must-bet situation anyway
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            12-04-2011 , 03:44 PM
            all of the hands are completely normal.. doesn't make any sense at all. Bordering on absurd.
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            12-04-2011 , 03:59 PM
            Wow. If those hands are their biggest 'evidence'. Just wow. This is just silly.

            OP, have you tried to contact ARJEL? What was their response? If you haven't, why not?
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            12-04-2011 , 04:08 PM
            If those hands are evidence of cheating, I've been colluding and cheating with fish for years without even knowing about it. Don't let this just disappear OP, make them give you full evidence or smear their name for randomly stealing a players money.
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            12-04-2011 , 09:13 PM
            I was expecting to see something at least borderline suspicious in this so called "evidence" but WTH?!?!? I think I might have been involved in chip dumping for the last 6 years or so if that is what chip dumping looks like.

            This is seriously what they offered up as definitive proof?!?
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            12-04-2011 , 09:35 PM
            Well I am not sure if their so called experts have ever played Heads-Up ... maybe they should do so against OP to donate the money that has been confiscated, because they apparently have no fn clue about poker.

            Rien ne vas plus?! ...
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            12-05-2011 , 01:23 AM
            lol who the **** are the consultants of these clowns, provided they have any at all?
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            12-05-2011 , 02:47 AM
            wow, what a silly behaviour of PP if it´s true that thát were their arguments.

            here another example of their silly customer service, if OP speaks the truth.

            http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32...poker-1135053/
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            12-05-2011 , 02:50 AM
            WTF! LOL! I knew the customer service people in poker sites are clueless. Have they let the girls in the help desk handle this without help?
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            12-05-2011 , 03:13 AM
            I honestly was about to make a big deposit on part for tournament play...goodbye PP.
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            12-05-2011 , 03:15 AM
            OP fake or not, all those PP posts fake or not...they work, they scared me from PP, if this is some "destroy PP movement" they win.
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            12-05-2011 , 03:22 AM

            Last edited by danny4u; 12-05-2011 at 03:30 AM.
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            12-05-2011 , 04:26 AM
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            Originally Posted by danny4u
            LOL!
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            12-05-2011 , 04:26 AM
            So thankful can play on stars. PP gtfo
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