I do think 4 tables of Rush is easier than 16 tables at any other site.

So is the consensus that 1 Rush table equal to 4 Reg in Full Ring

I'm addicted

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BTN: $27.08
SB: $33.13
BB: $10.57
Hero (UTG): $44.02
MP: $45.36
CO: $30.83

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with 6 9
Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, CO calls $0.85, 1 fold, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.80) 5 4 9 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.25, CO calls $2.25, SB calls $2.25

Turn: ($9.55) 9 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.25, CO calls $6.25, SB calls $6.25

River: ($28.30) 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $21.48 all in, SB folds, Hero calls $21.48

Final Pot: $71.26
Hero shows 6 9 (three of a kind, Nines)
CO shows J T (a pair of Nines)
Hero wins $68.26
(Rake: $3.00)

Who is the Donk here? (And I mean this in all earnestness, not a gripe...I'd never make the call with villain's holdings, and wondering if I am playing too tight.) Does anyone just flat call turn (or even flop) to minimize variance? I don't see it as an option, but maybe that is a hole in my Rush game. I'd take this same line with AA/KK or better.

I have no significant history with villain.

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BB: $296.40
UTG: $181.35
UTG+1: $158.10
UTG+2: $617.65
Hero (MP1): $313.75
MP2: $290.65
CO: $77.00
BTN: $134.50
SB: $264.75

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is MP1 with K Q
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $8, MP2 calls $8, 2 folds, SB calls $7, BB calls $6, UTG calls $6

Flop: ($40.00) 9 J 8 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $18, Hero raises to $50, MP2 folds, SB requests TIME, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $32

Turn: ($140.00) 3 (2 players)
UTG bets $16, Hero raises to $188, UTG calls $107.35 all in

River: ($386.70) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $386.70
UTG shows J K (a pair of Jacks)
Hero shows K Q (King Queen high)
UTG wins $383.70
(Rake: $3.00)

just flat the flop

After he calls the flop and leads the turn, I'd just call the turn instead of shoving all in. His bet does look weak but I find myself in most of this spots that they aren't folding.

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BB: $12.50
UTG: $48.74
MP: $25.61
Hero (CO): $41.91
BTN: $5.34
SB: $30.71

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with 7 7
UTG raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.60, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.85

Flop: ($5.55) K 7 A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.55, UTG calls $5.55

Turn: ($16.65) J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $11, UTG raises to $40.59 all in, Hero ???

Can hero expect to be good enough here a good amount of the time? what do you expect villain to mostly show up here? I'm thinking a lot of 2pair hands as well as AQ a good amount of the time?

snapcall fistpump

+1

Oh I did snapcall fistpump lol. I like the spot and just wanted to make sure that it was the right play.

Next time I will have to make sure I boat up though. villain tabled Q10c

agree. that being said good lord opponent played it bad

not the restart the kk aa debate but here are kings i folded four tabling rush while on the phone while in a 5 buyin downswing (which was particularly sick tbh)

edit to say this is a standard fold not particularly hard imo

edit to say i raise there with kings the vast majority in the first instance you can call it balancing if you like

***** Hand History for Game 19538678290 ***** (Full Tilt)
$200.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, March 24, 11:42:46 ET 2010
Table Hermes (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: mathiss ( $200.00 USD )
Seat 2: tokyojoe90 ( $143.35 USD )
Seat 3: Biggensworth ( $233.90 USD )
Seat 4: Scrillaaa ( $358.75 USD )
Seat 5: youngbukk ( $312.95 USD )
Seat 6: Eeman2004 ( $200.00 USD )
Seat 7: fleccs ( $291.15 USD )
Seat 8: Drowned Fish ( $178.20 USD )
Seat 9: 4ft_RooR ( $200.00 USD )
youngbukk posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
Eeman2004 posts big blind [$2.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to mathiss [ Kh Ks ]
fleccs folds
Drowned Fish folds
4ft_RooR raises [$7.00 USD]
mathiss calls [$7.00 USD]
tokyojoe90 raises [$31.00 USD]
Biggensworth folds
Scrillaaa folds
youngbukk folds
Eeman2004 folds
4ft_RooR raises [$78.00 USD]
mathiss folds
tokyojoe90 raises [$112.35 USD]
4ft_RooR calls [$58.35 USD]
tokyojoe90 shows [Qc, Qd ]
4ft_RooR shows [Ah, Ad ]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 6c, Ts ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2d ]
tokyojoe90 wins $293.70 USD from main pot

Speaking of AA KK Debate...this just happened. I swear to god I considered folding the limp reraise pf. So ****ing standard it makes me puke.

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SB: $115.00
BB: $219.30
UTG: $495.25
Hero (UTG+1): $366.30
UTG+2: $214.05
MP1: $200.00
MP2: $48.55
CO: $200.00
BTN: $493.50

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG+1 with K K
UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, MP2 calls $10, 1 fold, BTN calls $10, 2 folds, UTG raises to $41, Hero calls $31, MP2 calls $31, BTN calls $31

Flop: ($167.00) A K 9 (4 players)
UTG bets $63, Hero raises to $196, MP2 calls $7.55 all in, BTN folds, UTG raises to $454.25 all in, Hero calls $129.30 all in, Hero says "this could be ultimate cooler"

Turn: ($825.15) 9 (3 players - 3 are all in)

River: ($825.15) 8 (3 players - 3 are all in)
Hero says "ayup"

Final Pot: $825.15
UTG shows A A (a full house, Aces full of Nines)
Hero shows K K (a full house, Kings full of Nines)
MP2 shows Q K (two pair, Kings and Nines)
UTG wins $635.50
UTG wins $186.65
(Rake: $3.00)

ya that is sick. no way to fold that one pf i dont think tho it seems like its always aa

It just aint my night.

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UTG+1: $247.45
UTG+2: $616.05
MP1: $216.20
MP2: $242.45
Hero (CO): $200.65
BTN: $262.50
SB: $266.00
BB: $369.60
UTG: $92.60

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with A A
5 folds, Hero raises to $6, BTN raises to $18, 2 folds, Hero raises to $46, BTN calls $28

Flop: ($95.00) 7 9 T (2 players)
Hero bets $52, BTN raises to $216.50 all in, Hero calls $102.65 all in

Turn: ($404.30) J (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($404.30) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $404.30
Hero shows A A (a straight, Jack high)
BTN shows Q Q (a straight, Queen high)
BTN wins $401.30
(Rake: $3.00)

Ohhh FTP you are trying to break me tonight. Keep grinding grinding grinding then Blammo! ...but this time I managed to sneak away.

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SB: $246.75
BB: $1171.75
Hero (UTG): $416.50
UTG+1: $234.75
UTG+2: $205.25
MP1: $246.90
MP2: $209.15
CO: $158.00
BTN: $55.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with 8 8
Hero raises to $5, 3 folds, MP2 calls $5, 3 folds, BB calls $3

Flop: ($16.00) 8 2 Q (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, MP2 raises to $30, BB raises to $60, Hero calls $48, MP2 raises to $204.15 all in, BB raises to $348.30, Hero folds

Turn: ($484.30) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($484.30) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $484.30
BB shows K T (a flush, King high)
MP2 shows A 4 (a flush, Ace high)
MP2 wins $481.30
(Rake: $3.00)


Must be cooler night on Rush Poker.

damn u gotta get it in on this flop i think after your 48 call you got plenty of odds to draw to that full house

dont you?

tough game these *******s play

almost half a million hands and ive won nothing nearly this big

Full Tilt Poker Game #19542012614: Table Hermes - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:34:54 ET - 2010/03/25
Seat 1: Hanley319 ($284.35)
Seat 2: Orororo ($228.20)
Seat 3: mce86 ($230.35)
Seat 4: Vedpapa ($100)
Seat 5: nellie1972 ($200)
Seat 6: BobbyZimmerman1 ($218.60)
Seat 7: kdj07 ($431.55)
Seat 8: mathiss ($220.65)
Seat 9: farran ($335.35)
farran posts the small blind of $1
Hanley319 posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mathiss [Ad Ah]
Orororo raises to $6
mce86 calls $6
Vedpapa folds
nellie1972 folds
BobbyZimmerman1 folds
kdj07 calls $6
mathiss raises to $34
farran folds
Hanley319 folds
Orororo has 15 seconds left to act
Orororo raises to $110
mce86 has 15 seconds left to act
mce86 calls $104
kdj07 has 15 seconds left to act
kdj07 has requested TIME
kdj07 raises to $431.55, and is all in
mathiss calls $186.65, and is all in
Orororo calls $118.20, and is all in
mce86 calls $120.35, and is all in
kdj07 shows [8s 8h]
mathiss shows [Ad Ah]
Orororo shows [Qc Qs]
mce86 shows [As Ac]
Uncalled bet of $201.20 returned to kdj07
*** FLOP *** [4s 3c 5s]
*** TURN *** [4s 3c 5s] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [4s 3c 5s Kh] [Qd]
kdj07 shows a pair of Eights
mce86 shows a pair of Aces
mce86 wins side pot #2 ($4.30) with a pair of Aces
Orororo shows three of a kind, Queens
Orororo wins side pot #1 ($22.65) with three of a kind, Queens
mathiss shows a pair of Aces
Orororo wins the main pot ($882.60) with three of a kind, Queens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $912.55 Main pot $885.60. Side pot 1 $22.65. Side pot 2 $4.30. | Rake $3
Board: [4s 3c 5s Kh Qd]
Seat 1: Hanley319 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Orororo showed [Qc Qs] and won ($905.25) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 3: mce86 showed [As Ac] and won ($4.30) with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: Vedpapa didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: nellie1972 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: BobbyZimmerman1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: kdj07 showed [8s 8h] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 8: mathiss (button) showed [Ad Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 9: farran (small blind) folded before the Flop

Now that was funny....

What, is this a bad beat thread now? Geez.

Yeah, yesterday was sick on FTP. Too many AA vs KK for my liking. And that's just the start of it all. And just my hands. IMHO, with Rush, since one is whisked away from the table upon folding, there is no way to know what hands play out. Heck, for all I know, there could be AA vs KK every hand and I wouldn't know it, unless I take the time to view the history, which I'm not gonna do.

Sure enough, I played 3k hands on Stars last night wasn't 'all-in' once. On FTP Rush, I'm all in every 150 hands on average, with a set or AA or KK...and I'm losing most of them.

I'm really thinking of pulling my funds from FTP while I'm still showing a profit.

Man up. Stars is for wimps. You're just running bad. Set's should mostly hold. KK only runs into AA once in a blue moon.

this is a pretty terrible fold

Unless you play Rush. Then it occurrs about 12 times in a blue moon.

Aye. It was a bad fold, but my snakebit thinking was "One guy's got the damn flush, and the other one has an overset."

I'm starting to jump at shadows. Last night rush felt more like O8 than ever to me. I was hoping my flat call would freeze first raiser and I could see a free turn.

The other factor, and I really don't ever let this be a factor but I did last night was the really bad line of thought: "I've had some brutal beats and finally got back ahead for the night...a hit here and I go to bed down." At this point I wanted to take me $100 winnings and run.

Bad pokering. Jumping at Shadows. Tilt. I shut down after this hand and went to bed.

min-raise ok on the turn? I figured if he has the ace we have to work on getting the stacks in now since effective stacks are 200bb.

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BTN: $25.45
SB: $30.14
Hero (BB): $51.51
UTG: $59.45
MP: $29.43
CO: $83.31

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 7 7
2 folds, CO raises to $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.65) 7 7 A (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.80, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.80

Turn: ($6.25) A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4, Hero raises to $8, CO folds