wow! Talking about that, my younger brother uses to watch me playing (he is still learning) and he always says things like "it is easy to win, since you only make sets" or "with as many premium hands as you get I would win as much money as you do" and so on...

So yes, there is clearly this efect.

But as tryed to point out on the other post, I think there is something more than just appearances about AA crushing KK "all the time". I really think - and that was the main point - there is something statistical. In other words, it is (I think, but i don't know) statiscaly more likely to AA crush against KK playing 1.200 hands in four tables (1 hour) than it is to AA crush against KK playing 1.200 hands in 16 tables (1 hour).

Silly question: ain't table ninja designed exclusively to PokerStars? And is it necessary for rush, with only 4 tables opened?

there is a free table ninja beta for ftp

i think it adds about 100 hands an hour to my full ring because i quick fold with a mouse button rather than having to find the qf button i just go anywhere on the screen but i dont know if i recommend it since i also misclick at about a 10x normal rate (although barely mislicking now)

as to the second paragraph about aa and kk i think it may be slightly more likely but only for the reason i pointed out perhaps in rush people play big pairs more strongly and i am not even sure if that is correct but if you are saying the games play the same but it is more likely i dont think that is the case

where do I get the free table ninja?

http://tableninja.com/tnft/index.php

tks!

A lot more than better. I'm up 10 buy ins over 100,000 hands, pretty poor versus many here but I'm not very good at poker. So with rakeback and all the bonuses I'm very happy compared to pre rush.

You post as many bad beats as you wish. It still helps me in seeing the strategy a winning player uses at a different level. This will help me if I move up in stakes.

so people who are killing it rush poker any tips? im not even touching that fire again until i get some understanding of its strategy

bump

Rake schedule and MGR calculations are the same at Rush as they are at regular ring games.

You can figure your rakeback exactly from the points you earn since tables are always full. Take your points * 0.27 and divide by 6 or 9 depending on table size.

Per hand, it has been less for me but per hour it is better since I'm getting more hands.

a fun hand i just played

Full Tilt Poker Game #19587931550: Table Hermes - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:40:43 ET - 2010/03/26
Seat 1: smakoun ($69)
Seat 2: weissD ($264.15)
Seat 3: Revish ($117.90)
Seat 4: lucksallugot ($212.10)
Seat 5: Nesslad ($90.70)
Seat 6: MintyG ($485.60)
Seat 7: king1107 ($199.90)
Seat 8: mathiss ($207.25)
Seat 9: speekez ($226.85)
weissD posts the small blind of $1
Revish posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mathiss [Ad Ah]
lucksallugot folds
Nesslad folds
MintyG has 8 seconds left to act
MintyG raises to $7
king1107 folds
mathiss raises to $22
speekez calls $22
smakoun folds
weissD folds
Revish has 15 seconds left to act
Revish folds
MintyG calls $15
*** FLOP *** [Qc Kh Jd]
MintyG checks
mathiss checks
speekez has 15 seconds left to act
speekez checks
*** TURN *** [Qc Kh Jd] [5s]
MintyG bets $34
mathiss folds
speekez folds
Uncalled bet of $34 returned to MintyG
MintyG mucks
MintyG wins the pot ($66)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $69 | Rake $3
Board: [Qc Kh Jd 5s]
Seat 1: smakoun (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: weissD (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Revish (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: lucksallugot didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Nesslad didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: MintyG collected ($66), mucked
Seat 7: king1107 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: mathiss folded on the Turn
Seat 9: speekez folded on the Turn

May I make a tip if you cant use a hand converter dont post the hand.

http://weaktight.com/

Which one looks better to you?


$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($212.10)
UTG+1 ($90.70)
MP1 ($485.60)
MP2 ($199.90)
Hero ($207.25)
CO ($226.85)
BTN ($69)
SB ($264.15)
BB ($117.90)

Pre-Flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is MP3 A A
2 folds, MP1 raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero raises to $22, CO calls $22, 3 folds, MP1 calls $15

Flop: Q K J ($69, 3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: 5 ($69, 3 players)
MP1 bets $34, Hero folds, CO folds

Final Pot: $103

MP1 wins $100 (net +$44)

Hero lost $22
CO lost $22

I don't have an issue with over-arcing Rush specific strat, but single hand-posts can go in regular strat forums and bad beats and thisvillainislolbadletusgatheraroundandlolathim posts can go in BBV, IMO. Over-arcing strat would be adjustments to PF 3! ranges/frequency, worthwhileness of stealing blinds, etc.

I'll give you a tidbit. I play limit so most of you NL'ers won't care, but maybe it's relevant a touch.

I personally, have tightened my SB ATS range for Rush because I don't feel the time it takes to see if it's going to fold around so that I can try to steal with T7o is worth it. I may be passing up a slightly +EV spot, but in that same amount of time, I could have seen 5 more hands which may be more +EV.

Do you see how that is a Rush-specific strat adjustment and potentially worthy of discussion (ib4limithate)?

Edit: What is the point of the post above mine, for example? I don't know... maybe the regular NL forums have the same craptastic-type posts and I'm just spoiled in my own little corner of 2p2 by strat posts that usually have a little bit of thought in them.

2nd Edit: The original, LDO. Hand converter advocacy is never a bad thing.

OK, Leroy. I see your point. And that's interesting. That's something I have wondered and haven't got to a conclusiion yet. Is it realy better fold faster when SB with trash than wait and steal? I'd rather try and find out wether the pool is tight or loose, and then adjust. I realy feel it isn't always as easy/hard to steal, so it is important don't make any "rule". But again I am not sure.

About the post you questioned, I don't know what is thepoint, but nevertheless I am waiting mathiss explain why did he fold his AA.

i dunno is that a standard check fold? im curious how others play it

what range cold calls that three bet there he seemed competent and then the first guy cold calls

other than tt and maybe ak not sure what i am hoping for

i was hoping if the set was behind me i could draw to the straight fro free but wasnt gonna give any action there

edit to say i guess leverage was against me i couldnt figure out a profitable and reasonable plan for three streets, even if one was checked so i figured i would cut my losses early

I don't see forcing a few people who have auto fold already clicked making a minor mistake coming even close to making up for losing value with your stong range or when you smack the flop hard with a concealed hand. If they are folding regardless of raise size, then doesn't it make more sense to punish the people who call your bet? I suppose that minraising is fine in EP if you have a very wide range AND the tables are ridiculously nitty, but I don't see that happening for most people. It is better and more profitable it would seem to never minraise in EP and again, in micro games, I don't see it being too valuable in LP either, outside of a very few situations that are opponent specific.

you may be right, i will be honest i am not trying to say definitively it is better than the full standard open

it is just something i have been mixing in

i like it because if i get reraised its easier to find value calling for set value vs certain opponents but who knows it maybe better to full raise

another reason sixpeppers advocated mr'ing was the presence of so many short stacks in his game, a factor much less present here

so i just went back into rush for the hell of it, and i spent 2 hrs at 1 table and i was just losing dough and not the greatest of hands came through, when i did get them it was usually "auto fold" time for my opponents.

opened up 2 tables and out of the damn blue i catch hands left and right

has anyone else observed this? literally i would catch a good hand every 15 seconds, versus when i was at 1 table i caught a good hand every damn near 15 min, no bs

i could imagine what its like for the 4/8 tablers thus those predator ill charts ive seen. i presume there must be some calibration set for when you open up more than 1 table.

ive found hope in rush poker now

+1. 1-table nothing. 2-tables run hot. weird.

This is my $10nl rush poker graph up untill yesterday ... I wont bother showing you my $25nl graph



My FR graph on the normal tables looks nothing like that

In the first 5 minutes of my latest session ive allready lost a 300bb pot with set over set ..and got owned when my flopped top two pair against yet another flopped set.

This is like Facebook poker where anything seems possible..

I really really really am trying to play a more solid TAG type game to lessen the variance ... but every session is allmost the same ..

Its kinda entertaining ... but im playing FULL RING ... i dont want entertainment ... i want a nice relaxing small but acceptable earn rate without much variance !

Rush specific rogged theories? I suppose it was only a matter of time.

1) Any PLO players in this thread or mostly NLHE?

2) No reason that FTP couldn't make a "sit out next BB" box for Rush. Since you come in on BB, that would be the fairest thing.

Wow ... such a patronizing undertone ... you would hopefully expect better from moderators etc.

But maybe thats where 2+2 differs from other poker forums.