It will be entertaining, it won't be some grouchfest or boring, I'll be commentating, calling cards, teaching, it will be simple enough to follow, 1 tournament at a time, watch all the fksht happen every single day of their 'shuffle integrity' and clown on pokerstars and how rigged it is, all the while playing seriously winning poker (not Bill Fillmaff 'perfect poker' for that one guy), I'll damage their brand irreversibly. They'll become the new UB and if they turn my cold deck off suddenly I'll bring up old graphs.

Before you venture into this doomed idea of yours, you may want to at least research some of the riggies before you who did actually make a little bit of traction for a while doing their riggie whine programming. This is probably the best known one:

https://www.youtube.com/user/magic612/videos?view=0

Study him and others and then you can definitely bring the best programming forward for both of the people who click on your show by mistake, because watching a whiner whine while 1-tabling is no doubt something you believe to be entertaining. Guess the market will speak to that in the future, and we will never get a verifiable update from you about this ever.

All the best.

That guy was posting youtube videos about a few hands at a time, that's lame, I'm talking years of streaming daily, and he was getting good youtube views just by writing pokerstars is rigged in the title, that shows there is interest.

Even garbage streamers who stream 4 table low/mid cash or spins get views in the hundreds on twitch, a pokerstars is rigged stream that is actually funny and entertaining, good music for the live portion, will get some views.

1 tourney at a time is easiest to follow for viewers, 4 tabling looks like crap on stream.

people love conspiracies about powerful corporations foking them over.

I'm not saying it will be a super hit but I'll get some viewers, and I have to study and improve hu (absolutely not using solvers, but psychology of hu) for months so I can crush (in Sklansky bucks at of course) the stakes I play consistently so it's clear for viewers, but yeah, it's worth it to me, fok them.

there's other scam baiting streams on twitch, this is just another one.

will update before it goes live.

All riggie posts begin this way: im better than everyone, I'm a baller because of X and roll around on my bed covered in piles of pesos. Im so smart and better than everyone, so how could I ever lose a hand of poker!

Promises of a great exposure of how rigged the game is. I'll show you, I just haven't gotten around to compiling any evidence. But when it comes, it'll blow the roof off of everything.

Then without even a whimper, the great riggie just fades into the sunset, never to be heard of again.

And the process begins again next Sunday, with the newest entrant in the game after he lost his $10 stack with AA to 99 aipf.

On a side note to OP, I promise to subscribe to your stream when it starts, but I don't want to wait 5 years, so get on it please, or fade away

OMG, you think streaming 1 tourney is going to be entertaining to viewers. What on earth could you possibly fill the remainder of the time with? Based on your limited chat here, I seriously doubt you are entertaining enough to hold the attention of anyone, so you're better off just making some YouTube videos with evidence of a rig.

But as like the rest, you have none. Not a chart, not a HH to look at, no graphs to back up your claims. Just a serious grudge with Stars who has no reason to rig the game. They can print all day long by offering a legitimate product instead of designing some intricate rig to take your $10 and give it to whom exactly? Another common mistake that riggies make is failing to mention who exactly is the beneficiary of these grand plans to rig the game.

I'm more entertaining than the popular crooked accomplices with horrible taste in music (someone elses spotify playlist) sitting in short shorts who pretend to be surprised when they hit sets 5/5 times in a row, win 7 double up flips in a row and run deep in 2000 people donkaments daily.

There is another guy who apparently is entertaining, he made up a catch phrase, bazam! pretty original stuff, cock thrusts uncontrollably when he hears dance music, wears a muscle shirt and doesn't even have any muscles. he gets thousands of views.

like I said, I got millions of hands and hundreds of thousands of pre-river showdowns, yellow line is top right, green line bottom right, any format, any game, but I will put those aside and start with a clean database and let the stream be the evidence.

run under ev, every. single. day.

good thing poker tracker lets you filter daily.

the riggies pejorative doesn't have much impact when half this site thinks online poker is rigged or is unsure according to the poll.

as for their reason to rig the way they do, they have their algorithms to run their shuffle the way they do, same as facebook, twitter, it's to maximize their own profit, how is anyone supposed to know exactly how it works? probably only a few people on earth know under threat of death.

nba ref admitted refs were rigging games, oh gosh how could they why would they risk all their billions!? maybe to make more billions, you honestly don't believe that guy?

As for the stream, it's 6 months to a year away, but I have passive income, time, and a massive hatred for pokerstars, so it will happen, and it will go on for years until they are the laughing stock of the business.

The trick for you will be to find other humans who say you are entertaining. So far, you are the only one proclaiming that, even with your fairly mundane and dreary posting history. You have not said anything that has not already been said by other riggies, except the part where you talk about other poker players short shorts, genitals, and lack of musculature that you prefer in them. Those other riggies never followed through with anything that matters, so for now - pretty safe to say that is where you are heading, but this seems more to fulfill your need to yell at clouds so perhaps it will help you in that regard. We will never hear from you again in the not so distant future, and another riggie will pop up and take your place. The riggie circle of life.

As for running under EV every day - try playing at night.

All the best.

I follow through with my vendettas. I will pm you when it's showtime. that's enough of my posting for now.

Sounds good, even though many other riggies said before you that they also follow through on their vendettas against Pokerstars. They never did in a way that matters, but I am sure you are different, though keep in mind that I said that same support line to the other vendetta riggies before you for amusement. No need to PM me, just post here once you have any followers, and I have no doubt that you believe everything you say. Despite that, you will vanish and never be heard from again. Riggie circle of life.

All the best.

I apologize if you already answered this question, but what is your SN on Stars? Thanks.

What other vendettas have you followed through on? Thanks in advance for your answer.

I'm quite sure an 11 billion dollar company is shaking in their corporate shoes at the very thought of someone such as yourself showcasing their weak poker skills. You're sure to get multiple dozens of people watching over time.

I appreciate the heads-up. Hopefully not too many people read this before I'm able to sell my Amaya stock in the morning.

if your a 3 to 1 favourite then you should win 3 times in 4 (75%) not 100% of the time. though not many spots where the odds are 75% did you mean 2 to 1 for 66% favourite?

actually for any specific rig theory there will be confidence intervals. In generic statistics academically I have seen they usually use the 95% confidence interval this would be wholly inappropriate for the purposes here since 5% of the player base would have data outside of those regions by random variance.
The thing is though with large enough data even small differences from the expected value can be statistically significant. This has to do with the central limit theorem are you familiar with that? Do you know how to do statistical significance tests? this will be very important for your stream as after so many hands you can show that math to help make your point.

your comment on bum hunting borders on the ridiculous, like many things in life their is a sliding scale here. We can have the extremes of people who will only ever play when someone who is totally clueless comes along, maybe this is wrong I dont think so but others could make a case. However if everyone followed your values there would be very few people who made money from poker only the very best in the world. The only profitable players would be literally a handful if even that. where does this stop lets say you crush $15 and $30 heads up are you then obligated to play the $60 and $100 heads up?otherwise your bumhunting which is immoral and then you find these guys crush you so you never make any money you just lose all the money you made to guys at higher stakes? and those guys at $60 and $100 they crushing so are they now morally obligated to play the guys at $200 $300 and $500?
you see where this goes. I have hit this dilemma myself I crush low stakes heads up hypers but move up to mid stakes and I am losing. Am I now morally obligated to lose all my progress in my bankroll to the guys at midstakes? I moved more into MTTS recently and have been doing well there. and making progress in my income. I think I will study both MTTs and heads up hypers and take other shots at mid stakes later on. But I wont constantly play a game I am losing at why should I?

My current bankroll is almost at a point of been able to move up stakes in MTTS say I do and I am getting crushed by a much better calibre of player at the higher stakes am I obligated to keep playing these despite the fact I am losing money?

My plan is to cash out as I go and use that money to put 50% into savings financially better myself and 50% into improving poker via software (planning on buying a solver soon) membership to training sites, and coaching.

I will take shots at higher stakes as my performance suggests I am ready to and bankroll suggests if I keep losing I stop I dont constantly play the best because of some weird moral obligation.

Lebron James is a terrible example everyone in the NBA gets paid an extortionate salary. The very reason so many basketball players seek to make the NBA is because of the ridic salaries. players that lose to Lebron dont lose money because of this.

You know its possible that you could be a better poker player then me not saying that is true or not, but you continue to lose money because of playing much tougher games yet I continue to make what is decent money to me by seeking out the games I can beat for the most money.

My goal in poker is to make the most money possible. Scientifically it appears impossible for me to ever be the worlds best poker player. I base things on numbers I have had my IQ professionally tested it is 130 this is a high IQ but there are enough people out there with IQs exceeding 160. I wont beat someone who is working as hard or harder then me who has a higher IQ. I am not willing to work 80+ hours a week on poker, others are. My IQ does not exceed 140 others have IQs above that.

Why condemn myself to a live of failure misery and frustration, when I can live a life of relative decent wealth comfort and achievement simply because I cant be the very best that ever was.

I'd bet when you actually start to stream your single table effort, this chart will reverse

The fall of Pokerstars is near.

I suspect millions of poker fans will have their eyes glued to their monitors or smartphones as Pokerstars is systematically exposed in real time as the Great Fraud.

**This post is for someone like me who plays a decent game and thinks they can make use of the site to make modest profits through good, sustained play. Just stop wasting your time. Really. Life is too short, the site is dog ****. Play live poker, or hope that a significantly regulated and wealthy site such as GG or Pokerstars or Partypoker comes to the US mainstream. Why do you think most players play there, when ACR is open to the planet just as GG and Pokerstars are? If players on GG or PS wanted to play on ACR, the player pools would be gigantic! Don't you wonder why they don't?
What they must have payed Moneymaker to endorse the site is staggering to consider...

Look, people, I'm just as easily manipulated as anyone else into thinking if I play a good game, I can be a winning player on WPN. I have been playing poker for many years, fairly decently, I'm not a donk, fish, bot, I have a positive ROI and profit over about 900 tournaments on the site over the course of the year, nothing major, and play an average buy in of about $35 dollars. The only way to win on this site obviously assumes a certain level of skill, as to be a winning poker player anywhere, but more importantly you have to a. play constantly and b. have the perseverance to, knowing (or so we think) that everyone is on an even playing ground of completely unrealistic run-outs, play through all the ridiculous 4% river hits, over and over and over. The losing run-outs when I'm all in pre or on flop with a huge made hand and am 80% - (not kidding) 95%! ahead going to river have become so predictable, it's honestly laughable.

Except, it becomes less laughable when I win a tournament ($109 30k GTD PKO 8max for instance), that for the next 100 or 200 tournaments, I've found I've been shuffled into the cue of "lose on river 95% of the time" until I've given enough rake back to the site to be moved up the cue, or made enough redeposits, or some ****. That's where I am at now, and I'm done having to play another 200 tournaments before I'm put into a different pool of results.

The algorithm they've developed is beyond me, BUT DON'T THINK FOR A SECOND they're not taking advantage of mechanizing the system. They literally can do anything, with little to no repercussion. Who is overseeing them, ultimately? Absolutely no one. The model is "prioritize payouts to make players feel their money is safe and that they are valued," pretty much banking on the fact, probably backed by a gambling psychology expert, so long as this is in place, players will essentially be blind to every other unchecked facet of the site. They have basically zero customer support or way to get ahold of them otherwise.

This is different than saying, oh it's rigged for certain players, etc, etc, etc, which I suppose is possible, with regards to having shill players who win for the site, or players who basically act as coolers to make the game so unpredictable that it's nearly impossible to beat within the construct of long-term strong play due to even something as mathematical as GTO play. Why do you think almost every single tournament, is a reentry? Sure, to build the prize pools, but every reentry means another tournament fee. Wonder why they don't offer very many tournaments, in the scheme of things, with smaller player pools? They only offer SNGs with 9 people, and the On Demand SNG's? They're basically super turbo, thus ramping up the variance. These smaller player pool tournaments (27, 36, 81, 100 players) are more consistently won than the mega player pool tournaments, so they've carefully, basically altogether omitted their existence on the site. They want players playing in max variance pools, mixed with the mega donks and the full-time players.

The site has managed to apply slot machine psychology to poker-- in the short term, give a taste of victory, throw a few lights up, but in the long run, be concerned only with amassing tournament entry fees and rake. Go and look at any player on sharkscope who just starts playing on the WPN network, and huh, they bink a tournament pretty early on in their game numbers--impressive! Only to basically go on to lose consistently, with wins here and there to keep their interest piqued. Look, these sites are now run with very advanced computational technologies--it is NOT DIFFICULT to rig them for maximal action. And no one can convince me otherwise, and this coming from someone again, with about 10k profits over the year.

I can't tell you the number of times I've sat down at a zoom table (either 1/2 or .25/50) only to lose three hands within 10 with the likes of KK vs AK all in, Ace on river, JJ vs 1010, 10 on flop, etc etc, or on the contrary, won in similar situations within the first few only to eventually hit improbable beats to have to reload. What i'm saying is, it's rigged to keep you locked in--either by attempting to chase your profits, or by thinking, "hey this is going well," only to be run into the ground by the next pool of players who have entered and you've become part of the hook that then gets them there.

It's inexplicable to me that the players crushing the actual cash tables, are a. playing about 10 or 12 at a time, and still managing to make calls within the 15 seconds timer (which again, another thing that keeps the game moving very very quickly, decreasing time for thinking, thus contributing to variance as well), ARE SOMEWHAT EXCLUSIVELY FROM RUSSIA, ESTONIA, UKRAINE AND BELARUS. Common. It's ****in ridiculous. It's so in our faces, and yet the lure of gambling and the facade of fairness keeps people locked in.

And if they're routinely paying out players thousands of dollars (sometimes after that player has amassed $25K+--go look at their "transparency" reports of this on the site) due to bot presence, that means they are going largely unnoticed for months on end. Oh, and ever notice how players from Russia have the most insanely consistent upward trajectory of wins and profit? These players are smart---sorry, bots---these bots are smart--play at low stakes and amass small amounts of profit over a long period, more unnoticed.

The tournaments are meant for max variance, max reentry, max improbable beats to keep us all in a vicious loop. Sure, there are winning players on the site who, if they are actual human players, are putting in insane volume to eventually work past these mechanics---but do you really want your life to be about sitting in front of the computer for 10 hours a day in a system that is designed to keep you hooked? This is not real poker.

Again, don't be delusional:

THIS IS NOT REAL POKER.

They'll throw promotions and bogus RNG certificates and a harmless mascot at you, and make a few people pros who stream the site on twitch, but don't be fooled.

Seriously, life is too short, and they do not give a **** about hosting an honest and realistic game. It's on a computer. Their very operation exists in a grey area and is somewhat illegal, with very little legitimate oversight of players or of their actions. If you think they can be shady and dishonest via proximity to lack of due-diligence in some practices, but honest in the game they host, you've been sucked into the circus and endless loop of delusion. I'm trying to get out while I can, and if one player is reading this and needing some commiseration to do the same, saving money and COPIOUS amounts of time, that's all I'm hoping to help with.

**To the ACR reps who are hired to troll the internet for posts such as these and refute them, posing as real players who label this post as a "cry from a loser who's just had a bad beat and is venting:"

I'm not going to bother to check to see if responses have been posted here, so don't bother.

LOL.

I am not on the the dude is going to take down Pokerstars but have anyone of you seen this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DkHzOUzDjc&t

at the 1:03 minute mark the guy asks Lee Jones how the cards are shuffled. His answer has me scratching my head. I don't know anything about coding, algorithms (cant even spell it) but he said that it is based on two independent sources. The first being beams of light shot through a mirror, if the light bounces off it its a 1 and if it goes through it its a 0. Then a seperate source which is "user input" and said its mouse clicks, time delay between actions, and then combine them using a cryptographic method to pull out a number.

Why does user input have anything to do with it? To me that sounds like an algorithm that generates more rake. I have no idea and I'm not accusing pokerstars of being rigged because I haven't played on stars since Black Friday.

Doesn't Pokerstars give you the option to take your equity? If that guy thinks its rigged then just enable that option or did they take that away?

Has anyone ever hit one of the big Jackpot SNGS on ACR? Why don't they publish winners like BetOnline, for example?

I, um, wait, what?

I have no idea how you got there or how you think it works.

I believe they add two independent sources with the idea that if people are concerned one is not randomizing properly/is cracked in some way, they have a second source. When "user input" is talked about as a source for entropy, I think I usually see people referring to it being a "system wide" input. IE not just one player's mouse movements, but the average of all players' mouse movements at a given moment. Not positive how Stars does it.

[QUOTE=Bobo Fett;56943701]I, um, wait, what?

I have no idea how you got there or how you think it works.


If you read my post, I clearly stated that I don't know anything about how it works and that I wasn't accusing Pokerstars of anything. I don't know if stars is rigged or not because I can't play on there. If a site was going to rig it, they would obviously rig it so that the pots get bigger, generating more rake. It's pertty simple and easy to see how and why my mind went there. Plus I lean more towards the conspiracy versus believe the official story.

I don't know if Stars is rigged but I think they are the most credible. They paid us the Full Tilt money and they are legal in a couple states. I wish I could play on Pokerstars because I think my funds would be secure and I think it is the most legit. I haven't played on there in almost a decade so I can't really say.

I thought they had a setting where you could take your equity. I would love to play with that option and give it a try.

Right, and maybe I wasn't clear - I just meant I had no idea how you'd go from them using your mouse inputs to that's how they rig things. If they've decided it needs to be rigged for or against you, or that they need you to be putting more money in, getting random info about the way or when you move or click your mouse should have nothing to do with it. They just need to know who you are, if you're winning or losing, how much money you have, perhaps your style of play if you're contemplating a sophisticated rig - things they already know.

If they want to make less money, sure. If I were to rig a site, I would want a lot of smaller pots that don't hit the rake cap, ensuring I get my full 5% out of every pot, and also making it easier to get that money circulating around longer and generating me more rake. Big pots just ensure that I get the least rake per $ in a pot, and that players bust out quicker.

Honestly, it's really not. I suspect your mind was already there, which is why you were looking into the RNG in the first place. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Fair enough. And while I don't lean towards the conspiracy and have no reason to think Stars is rigged, it's only logical to be aware that anything a company says about their own product is going to be biased in their favour.

To waste time writing a post this long about nothing. No facts, just hyperbole.

I never said Pokerstars was rigged, I haven't played on it in more than a decade. Like I said, to me they have the most credibility because of the Full Tilt Payouts and regulation. If my life depended on it, I would go with that Pokerstars is not rigged. but it would not have to be sophisticated.

I wasn't looking into the RNG, it came up on autoplay one day. I always pay attention to the comments which are disabled for that video which I find alarming and the video is edited which is also a little bit of a head scratcher but it could just be my paranoia. If you google RNG "insert poker site" you aren't going to get "here is how we rig the site". I do have serious doubts about the credibility of WSOP.com. I understand that the quality of player is much higher than other places. That's what attracted me to that site because I liked competing against the best players. Googling their usernames during a couple heads up matches led me to some incredible findings. I was playing the other day in a heads up match and since you can't chat on the site, I wanted to see if I could find who this player was because I was playing on a heads up table and was doing pretty well and then he sat out after two hours. He was playing on another table and thought maybe he was involved in a big pot or something but he wasn't. So I can't write in the chat to either play or leave because the other heads up table was full. This guy won the main event. He is a good player and I love the challenge in playing someone like that. I also love the fact I took a couple buy ins off him and made him quit. My hope with WSOP is they seem to absolutely care less about poker and their incompetence is jaw dropping. Maybe they care so little about their product that they wouldn't take the time to rig it but I don't think it would take much and there is not very much traffic on the site so it would be real easy to single out a couple players who they don't want playing on their site.

agree about Stars and their bias