[QUOTE=Riggedamortiss;56811857] They are at every stake.

No online gaming company has ever done anything dishonest. That' simply impossible. There's never been any kind of ponzi scheme or collusion or superusers (could look at other players hole cards).

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Oh no wait a sec.

Good logic. Of one did then they all must.

You should chat with quarantine poker dude. I think there is a common ground to work off.

More than 1 poker company got caught doing it. Wrong as usual.

Sir, I sincerely wish you all the best, but please spend some time in the real world. On another thread a discussion is being had about Party Pokers admission of using bots. But you still believe that the idea of a site setting its algorithm just a little bit different to increase variance just a tish beyond what is normal is beyond the pale. Well, we all believe what we need to to get through the day. Take me for example: I love chicken and turkey but refuse to eat a rabbit. Some folks say that doesn't make sense, but that's how I get through the day. Whatever it takes in these troubled times. Stay safe all.

If only software existed to do statistical analysis of hands to prove these easy to identify rigs or if only a single person involved in programming one of these rigs, even for one of the long closed sites came forward with details we would finally have the riggie reckoning.

Alas, we enter a new year where such things remain impossible, so for now I would advise every riggie to never play another hand of poker again for the rest of their lives and take up a different hobby. Consider raiding political buildings dressed as a discarded member of the Village People for instance. Same mentality, but a more physical activity! Macho, Macho Riggie!

All the best.

**** is a ducking laughing stock joke

Hi all,
I've been playing for the past month on Betonline.ag , I am currently on a huge run bad when it matters or truthfully after researching and being an adequate player let me explain...
For one is it even possible for a poker site to run software that essentially my guess is there are bots where prize pool money is funneled too? The amount of times I have been counterfeited recently in flips or just regular hands is absurd. Its truly been to the point I can borderline not win a flip in a tourney on their site late stages when I have a pair and other person overs but whats baffled me is the amount of times Ive been counterfeited.
I have read some other people online expressed concern as well that "the sports book is ok but the poker rigged", so I dont think I am crazy for wondering. Plus too it is based out of some south american country where I dont believe poker/gambling is well regulated.
I have had some literally late stage hands where dude goes all in absurd BB's with like not making up 10 2 suited and will get there against my kk.
Curious what anyones thoughts are, another site I have questions about too is ACR but that seems slightly more legit/not as absurd generally although Ive definitely seen some weird **** on their as well but no where near extent of BetOnline.


Update- as someone who is nearly always cashing on a similar site I have been experiencing the worst of "run bad" still on Bet Online... in the same tournament just lost an all in with the same offset hand villain making 4 to the board flush, then getting it all in on flop with flush draw making the flush on turn then river completes 4 to the board to make his k high flush over my suited Q flush???

at this point I just can't win and it seems shady as I said before if they are from Panama who's to say they aren't just rigging American players money?

I am surprised to see their is even a Bet Online Forum here considering its a site from Panama

Call me a riggie all you want but I'm convinced it has to do with the algorithms used by the sites. It doesn't take much to set things just a bit differently to insure action and still been within the bound of what is considered normal variance. This keeps people putting money on the site or in the case of play chip games actually buying play chips. And as I've said before, if one accepts this reality and understands things might just be a bit off then by all means play. With this damn Covid (poker rooms in my neck of the woods are closed) one either doesn't play or plays online. So do what I do: Play small and for short periods of time.

Doyle Brunson has won the WSOP with a suited 10-2. He won again the next year with an unsuited 10-2.

these hands on their own arent a big deal, wehn they happen non stop day in day out and YOU CANT WIN theres a problem, it hsould be a RARE THING to havbe thees things happen, but they happen AS THE NORM no one thinks this is messed up??? these hands happen too much i think they are bots that win and pass the money around or something who the flip knows

at the end of 3k hand sessions ALL THE big losing hands are OPPOSITE EV , so basically i lose the session when i should be up hundreds. this happens ALL THE TIME DAILY

keep in mind i used to play 600nl on merge and win 30k a month EVERY MONTH and i never had a losing week, yet i cant even WIN A WEEK in 25nl, its a flippin joke

i play really well, definately well enough to win 10+bb100 at 25nl my redline IS SICK, i jsut lose EVERY SINGLE FLIP and every overpair in a 3 or 4 bet pot loses, i must have a lemon account, i know it sounds stupid, but i think they are trolling me at acra nd laughing there asses off

im 400 below EV on this session, this site is A ****ING JOKE

Yes, it is a total joke. You clearly have a lemon account as you believe, rather than it just being that the game has passed you by. The only solution is for you to quit playing right now. Cash out and uninstall all gambling software, because they can track you with their secret devices if you try playing on a different account. They are that powerful, and you are that important for them to handle in this way, so if you continue to play and lose and whine here, then all that will do is show you how I tried to save you money. In the end - your choice, a choice that in the end only you (and some of your opponents enjoying your money) care about.

All the best.

Lulz

You so funny.

Why would a site want to rig things to make less money?

Why would a site allow super users? It could ruin their business if they were found out.
Why would sites like full tilt and ultimate bet steal player funds?. It could ruin their business if they were found out.

There was one hand that was quite baffling. Texas limit king ftp...high limit player 1k 2k...hand a hand on FTP....he called a river bet with 4 hi vs villian who had 3 hi..and won. Word was after that, he was no longer seen on FTP.

There has been so many issues with online poker, i have stories that 90 percent of you never heard about from 2006..07 etc

If this was in response to my post, you completely missed my point.

hate to be THAT guy, but IMO its just near impossible to win on ACR anymore

used to have somewhat moderate success in MTTs and now its just nonstop Brazil/RussianFed bots

they call and bink everything, when you have it they insta fold no matter what playstyle you deploy.

this on top of the normal BS and its just getting to become more play for entertainment than a legit avenue to build a roll..........which ACR just simply won't allow for IMO

the number of 2 and then 3 outters (where the villain kicker hits) in AIPF situations is just simply not normal.

It feels like every hand dealt its a flip all in situation just in general not just my end

players in BB get dealt Tens plus way above normal

also, in my opinion, without a doubt there are "players" in these fields that are ACR plants that can see everyones hole cards

the whole Brazil thing is just tilting to me, i just don't buy the fact that there are suddenly hundreds of players from Brazil playing on ACR rather than just better sites like Party or Stars, etc

and as soon as i hit send on my post, Russian Federation player shoves all in for 15 BB, i have QQ and call, he has KT and turn K..........what a shock

outplayed imo

thank you for reminding me why i never post here

derp derp, have a good day

Pa pokerstars is phony and rigged like a mother ****er protect the ****ing donk

Thinking about a site being rigged does nothing for ones game and can put one on tilt. Having said that even though winning on Ignition feel my winrate has been cut by some fishy stuff going on there. Kind of hard to ignore the constant suckouts by random fish who seem to appear and disappear.

Also no way to see if there is a pattern due to the anon tables

Lol