You like made up facts, non sequiturs and ending every sentence with "lmao," because laughing at your own posts is awesome.

Quite the triple threat! Welcome to the thread. Sorry the internet frightens you so much.


All the best.




P.S. lmao


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[QUOTE=Monteroy;45138347]You like made up facts, non sequiturs and ending every sentence with "lmao," because laughing at your own posts is awesome.

Quite the triple threat! Welcome to the thread. Sorry the internet frightens you so much.


All the best.




P.S. lmao

lmao....laughing at you internet donks.....and it does not frighten me at all....I play on two sites right now, but I just assume all my money is eventually gonna get stolen, so I am not even worried about it. Don't ever give money to a foreign online site that you ever expect to get back. But for you to claim there is no cheating going on is just laughable. And naïve. Sorry, gotta go, tourney starting on Bodog.

Everyone here knows about colluders and super users. Everyone here knows they are/were real problems. But they have nothing to do with this thread. There are plenty of threads on 2+2 about those things if you would like to contribute, though.

That seems to be your signature saying. Powerful.


By definition that makes you quite the internet donk! Do you frighten yourself? Perhaps that lmao you use is a way to keep the fear at bay? Sorry the internet scares you so much.


Better to give it expecting not to get any back like you? Sorry the internet scares you so much.

Cheating happens in all activities. Welcome to reality. Sorry the internet scares you so much.

At least when you lose you will be happy, since you do expect to lose your money.


By the way, learn how to quote properly, it is not that difficult. Sorry the internet scares you so much.

All the best.

oh....my bad....the guy thought I was making up facts. so, you online donks do know about the super user situation and you think it cant happen again. ok...you got me...

I didn't say that I thought it couldn't happen again. I said that this is the wrong thread to discuss that subject. This thread is only about the tRNG's that poker sites use and those who think that the sites have corrupted the output for some nefarious goal.

Seems smart to 3bet an UTG raise with a ****ty hand like KJs. And another obviously very smart play to call here with raggedy garbage.

You need to start from the ground floor to make your ****ty game work, and that starts with learning a ****ing hand chart and realizing that KJs and A2s are ****ty useless hands that you should autofold before a decision even swings around to you.

How the **** can Stars be rigged against you when your own stupid decisions are what cause the hands to play out? Do they have a chip in your stupid ****ing brain making you make bad decision after bad decision?

Of course we know about super-user accounts and collusion. Do you think we are all poker ******s? Jump into a thread like a dick preaching like you are telling us something we don't know makes you look a bit of an ass.

To my knowledge the only times it's been proven a super-user ability was used to cheat was ultimate bet and absolute poker scandal five years ago. And of course there is always a risk that some individual that has access to it that works for a poker site will abuse it. Trouble is if they cheat long enough they will get spotted. Difficult to be careful enough to keep stats from showing to big of a variance when you can see the cards coming. They would have no way to keep track while playing who they had won/lost to and to control their stats without it getting out of shape of time.. Short-term they can do damage for sure though. Longer if they are careful too.

Is it happening now. Good question. If it is it won't be at my level, or at the level of 99.99% the donks complaining of rigging.

Collusion is a serious issue, but is NOT rigging. That is people trying to cheat other players. Where there is money there will be people trying to cheat. I mean hell I used to play WOW and there were massive amount of gold farming done by Chinese people that then sold the gold for cash in the game. So if they do it in a game as silly as that is no surprise they want to do it in poker where the rewards are far, far bigger.

It's a problem the sites try to deal with, but it's a problem that I'd think that is a bit like playing whack a mole. Some games suffer more than others with it.

you may have noticed that a certain site is now using numbers instead of player names. this makes it impossible to track results and spot a super user like russ hamilton.this site just happens to be regulated by the same people who regulated ultimate bet. so if there were a super user now it would be very hard to spot on that site.

ni do not think the cards are rigged on any site by the rng. however, i have no way to know that for sure and neither do you. claiming you know it is nott rigged is as dumb as saying it is rigged.you simply do not know.

Shockingly, your posts sounded brighter when you ended each sentence with "lmao" and 4 periods. Go back to that routine. Sorry the internet scares you so much.


All the best.

We can be more certain than those that called it rigged on some weird lack of faith because they are not winning and a few bad beat stories.

Think of it like this. Poker has known statistical probabilities for every outcome. Millions of players collect these stats (on sites that allow you to do so), and there are sites that used to - and still do in some cases - collect all the hand histories. And yet with all this collecting and studying no-one has come out and said that x site or y site is rigging the RnG in one way or other.

So it would have to be a rig that was dealing so close to expected statistical probability that it was within exceptable variance. This would make a rig nearly pointless overall.

Could they do it? Of course. Are they doing it? On small shady sites I wouldn't like to even guess. On larger ones I'd doubt it for the most part, but it is no lock certainty of course. The sites know what happens if they get caught and they known how many people are looking. More so after the scandals that have hit online poker.

Simple fact is, there is no certainty in life. People put their money in banks, they put paper money in their pockets. And that has far worse track record in history.

Feel free to troll through the thread and quote everyone who says they know it's not rigged. I'll wait.

sure just play AA,KK and perhaps QQ and you are a millionaire in just 2 months

Actually, in your first post you said that you think sites deal a disproportionate amount of action cards to stimulate betting. That directly contradicts your post that I just quoted. And that would be relatively simple to spot with your compiled hand histories.

On that certain site where you play, the hand histories that you download actually show all players' hole cards not just yours. That site is better than most (all?) in that regard. In regards to your comments on potential super users there...fair enough (although the hand histories that show all players' hole cards speak to your concerns a bit) But, again, this is not the appropriate thread in which to discuss that.

If anyone in this thread actually made that claim you would have an excellent point.

Since they haven't, your point is invalid and worthless.

I almost wonder if your reading comprehension might be as bad as your writing skills....lmao

well let me clarify. i meant that some sites have admitted that their deals are not randombut the cards are dealt to generate action...i did not mean that all sites do this

Lets see some links to those statements. Also, everyone knows the non-action flop rig is the best one proposed to date.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=9416

All the best....lmao

Damn Monteroy got there first, but still. Some sites? Good you can show at least one link to this statement from a site then. Cus can't say I've heard that, and Google apparently hasn't either.

Let's say that were true. Why would a poker site want to reduce their profits by doing this?

Here's a clue: maximum rake is achieved when all players break even and nobody goes broke quickly, and when pots don't surpass the rake caps.

But please do share the links to these statements.

Yep, saying it's bad to 3bet an UTG raise with KJ and that it's bad to call a raise with A2 is exactly the same as saying just play AA, KK, QQ.

KJ bad, A2s completing is fine with 2 others in pot. Long as it is a throw away hand if you don't flop big.

Lol you know nothing about poker.

... says DonkeyShow the admitted lying troll who can't beat 2nl on stars or 30nl on 888... (this is not to say that I agree with potato's assessment of the situations--- just saying that you are barely above a beginner... who is also AN ADMITTED LIAR!!!)

Was this too harsh? I apologize. In my defense, I had some wine with friends and I haven't had a drink in months... light weight status ENGAGE!

Your last sentence will probably invite Monteroy to spew some rubbish about how I'm an alcoholic because I sometimes drink a couple of cans of beer in the evening. That was a topic he liked to keep repeating at one point - seems now he's moved onto his ******ed haikus.

I'm an excellent poker player who is held down by rigs. If you had any idea of the BS I face day in day out on Stars and 888 you'd understand. I get sucked out on literally every single day that I play poker.