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Originally Posted by scumbagsall
Ill give you a C grade on your smoke and mirror response. Youve been in this industry too long not to know that this is how the hands are dealt. What about the thousands of players leaving these rigged sites because of the obvious deal manipulation?
You still have not explained how the magical software knows how humans will play out a hand every time, nor how all of the people who know about it keep the secret, even for rooms that have long since shut down. Also, how does it avoid being detected in Holdem Manager, since the hands are not random in your belief.
How about this - give a specific example of a hand at a 9 handed table. Provide details of the types of players (ie: how they base the rig), and what hands they will get and how exactly the hand will play out. Should be simple since you think it happens every hand, so if that is the case how about we just take a random case hand and a random tournament from Stars and you can break down how the rig worked!
PokerStars Hand #124607826422: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6 - $120 Cap - USD) - 2014/11/06 14:08:07 ET
Table 'Aspidiske II' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Tikitiki4260 ($36.84 in chips)
Seat 2: MistTheFlop ($98.16 in chips)
Seat 3: niqx ($315.74 in chips)
Seat 4: E1ephant ($141 in chips)
Seat 5: thegobby ($120 in chips)
Seat 6: Jovanella ($127.88 in chips)
Seat 7: limpnfold24 ($126 in chips)
Seat 8: darklol ($120 in chips)
Seat 9: ffguitarguy ($141 in chips)
MistTheFlop: posts small blind $3
niqx: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
E1ephant: folds
thegobby: folds
Jovanella: folds
limpnfold24: folds
darklol: raises $6 to $12
ffguitarguy: folds
Tikitiki4260: calls $12
MistTheFlop: folds
niqx: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [Jc 3d 7s]
niqx: checks
darklol: checks
Tikitiki4260: bets $24.84 and is all-in
niqx: raises $24.84 to $49.68
darklol: folds
Uncalled bet ($24.84) returned to niqx
*** TURN *** [Jc 3d 7s] [Jd]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 3d 7s Jd] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
niqx: shows [8h 7d] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
Tikitiki4260: mucks hand
niqx collected $85.88 from pot
PokerStars Hand #124607949845: Tournament #1015297034, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (50/100) - 2014/11/06 14:09:48 ET
Table '1015297034 11' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: rcaplan10 (4600 in chips)
Seat 2: Ace1578 (3920 in chips)
Seat 3: robinsoN1337 (2290 in chips)
Seat 4: robaldo12 (11825 in chips)
Seat 5: NutsedAllTim (1557 in chips)
Seat 6: jaccuzzi12 (13330 in chips)
Seat 7: djlann (8856 in chips)
Seat 8: THOMASPOKERO (18592 in chips)
Seat 9: Chafton (5040 in chips)
rcaplan10: posts the ante 10
Ace1578: posts the ante 10
robinsoN1337: posts the ante 10
robaldo12: posts the ante 10
NutsedAllTim: posts the ante 10
jaccuzzi12: posts the ante 10
djlann: posts the ante 10
THOMASPOKERO: posts the ante 10
Chafton: posts the ante 10
NutsedAllTim: posts small blind 50
jaccuzzi12: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
djlann: folds
jaccuzzi12 is disconnected
THOMASPOKERO: folds
Chafton: folds
rcaplan10: raises 100 to 200
Ace1578: calls 200
robinsoN1337: folds
robaldo12: folds
NutsedAllTim: raises 1347 to 1547 and is all-in
jaccuzzi12: folds
rcaplan10: raises 3043 to 4590 and is all-in
Ace1578: folds
Uncalled bet (3043) returned to rcaplan10
*** FLOP *** [Jc 9h Ts]
*** TURN *** [Jc 9h Ts] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 9h Ts 3c] [As]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
NutsedAllTim: shows [7c Qc] (high card Ace)
rcaplan10: shows [Js Jh] (three of a kind, Jacks)
rcaplan10 collected 3484 from pot
NutsedAllTim finished the tournament in 14933rd place
I mention these again knowing you will completely ignore answering them, while with unintentional irony suggesting others use "smoke and mirrors.
Also, how can thousands of riggies be leaving the sites when it is near impossible to get a single one to actually quit playing online poker in a riggie thread! I know I have told many riggies they should quit, just as someone like you should never play another hand of poker, but they do, and probably you do as well.
If you will not quit all forms of poker, where are these mysterious thousands of riggies who have quit, and why can't they all vote in this poll to get the riggie side in a riggie thread to 50%. You voted dozens of times, so what is the problem?
All the best.
Last edited by Monteroy; 11-06-2014 at 03:12 PM.