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View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
Yes
3,503 34.88%
No
5,609 55.84%
Undecided
932 9.28%

02-18-2014 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by donk mcReetard
thanks, i'm an armchair writer with limited ideas and not quite enough iq points and attention span.
well played.guess im convinced now,you all must be correct and everyone that has justifiable suspicions about pstars are just insane imagine a huge corp. like stars being less than 100% honest.absolutely impossible! honest thanks to those who took me seriously,you gave me a lot to think about and nudged my opinion the other way.still not convinced but may have motivated me to learn.as for the rest of you kindly gfy.
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02-18-2014 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by diffcode
well played.guess im convinced now,you all must be correct and everyone that has justifiable suspicions about pstars are just insane imagine a huge corp. like stars being less than 100% honest.absolutely impossible!
I don't think anyone in this thread thinks any of those things. But they do think that when someone presents an idea that is, well, ignorant at best (meaning you didn't know any better) and downright stupid otherwise, then at least you should do it more humbly if you want polite responses. You came in arrogantly and jumped to wild conclusions about things you didn't understand, and made yourself look like a fool, and that's how you were responded to. Deservedly so in my opinion.

The regulars don't lurk in this thread to defend poker sites. They frequent it either to see if anyone ever presents any real evidence, or because of the entertainment value of idiot riggies who have no evidence, or both. If someone had real evidence you would see a furious effort to analyse and confirm it on this forum, not to discredit it. This has happened here multiple times, with real wrongdoing found (in other threads). But evidence for a rigged deal has never been seen yet. It's as elusive as what the fox says.

Last edited by NewOldGuy; 02-18-2014 at 01:19 AM.
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02-18-2014 , 01:42 AM
Wow, your grammar, word choices, slang and ability to convey your ideas have improved in 14 posts. Nice try.
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02-18-2014 , 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
And you forgot to add the same guy coming on here every few days to carry on again about how pointless everyone else's posts are. And I have no idea who is spending hundreds of hours typing - I guess there are some very slow writers ITT? But I'm not all that interested in debating your math on that, so never mind.


Gee, thanks dad.


Yup.


Why does Poker Stars want to rig things to make less money? Seems odd to me.
I beg to differ sir/mam

It is my contention that the rig actually is to preserve a steady income by rewarding regulars who are crucial to cash game income ( rewarding them in tournments) and hurting customers like myself who are not full time players but win like one and cashout.
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02-18-2014 , 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by futballer
It is my contention that the rig actually is to preserve a steady income by rewarding regulars who are crucial to cash game income ( rewarding them in tournments) and hurting customers like myself who are not full time players but win like one and cashout.
I was replying to your post about a rig for "action flops" that ensured players got all their money in - this would be a terrible way to increase rake. What does your reply above have to do with this?
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02-18-2014 , 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by futballer
...It is my contention that the rig actually is to preserve a steady income by rewarding regulars who are crucial to cash game income ( rewarding them in tournments) and hurting customers like myself who are not full time players but win like one and cashout.
I don't think this makes any sense. Presumably regulars are net withdrawers. Antagonising new/losing players seems unhelpful to generating any revenue.
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02-18-2014 , 06:32 AM
Online poker has reached its highest protection point against winning players ever. My recommendation is to stick to the biggest sites, not counting the networks. As there is little to recommend in todays party and ftp games, one seems to be stuck with only one site, stars. Nothing wrong with hit and running smaller sites, but maybe u want to wait for the most profitable time for doing it. They wont kick you out of stars, u just be balanced there, and can still win, and the fun is that one can multitable easily and the worse play then doesnt matter as they monitor ur win rate rather than the rng being more or less of the time riggie, and if u win only little u will never experience the riggie.
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02-18-2014 , 08:42 AM
I am not sure how no one can see that diffcode moron is an LPO trolling from fresh account.
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02-18-2014 , 08:58 AM
Nah. Too different a posting style to LPO/PokerPlayer66 imo.
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02-18-2014 , 09:42 AM
the 50c 90 man turbos on pokerstars are rigged. 3x KK vs AA in 6 tournies, flush cards always hitting, and the big stack always beats the small stack. used to think it was just variance but it isnt. there should be an audit of pokerstars software because players are been cheated out of their money
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02-18-2014 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by diffcode
another mathmetician,you should be playin on stars.
Funny enough, I am a mathematician.
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02-18-2014 , 11:30 AM
Amazing that there are mathematicians here - considering that poker is a game of math.
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02-18-2014 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SchroedingersDonk
Nah. Too different a posting style to LPO/PokerPlayer66 imo.

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Originally Posted by lolpotodds

Gfys. I don't care about 'redline', it's just an indicator of playing style. I saw a thread in BBV from this guy who had made $900k who had a negative redline.
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Originally Posted by diffcode
honest thanks to those who took me seriously,you gave me a lot to think about and nudged my opinion the other way.still not convinced but may have motivated me to learn.as for the rest of you kindly gfy.
Tweaking writing style to look like a different kind of lunatic is easy. Eliminating childish acronyms from your writing is not.
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02-18-2014 , 02:40 PM
That's a good spot.
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02-18-2014 , 03:40 PM
just been at the wrong end of the pokerstars rig again. first few hands of the tourney, i pick up 55 on the btn. i raise it to 3x and bb calls me. the flop comes QT8r and i make my continuation bet. bb minraises me, so i push all in. he calls with AK. of course a jack hits on the turn to eliminate me from the tournament, ****ing bs. always get beaten by the fish on pokerstars in tournaments.
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02-18-2014 , 04:29 PM
Interesting. Please keep us updated.

Also, wp nh ul gg.
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02-18-2014 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ktnxbye
Tweaking writing style to look like a different kind of lunatic is easy. Eliminating childish acronyms from your writing is not.
Well, I suppose it could be him, but given that he already came back with AACracked, and now has created riggedpoker after AACracked was banned, it seems unlikely.
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02-18-2014 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by riggedpoker
just been at the wrong end of the pokerstars rig again. first few hands of the tourney, i pick up 55 on the btn. i raise it to 3x and bb calls me. the flop comes QT8r and i make my continuation bet. bb minraises me, so i push all in. he calls with AK. of course a jack hits on the turn to eliminate me from the tournament, ****ing bs. always get beaten by the fish on pokerstars in tournaments.
ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation
6,082,560 trials (Exhaustive)
board: QT8
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
5556.94% 3,459,8766,552
AK43.06% 2,616,1326,552

Brutal beat, definitely worthy of making a new account to whine about it after your first account was banned for...posting ****ty bad beats?

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Well, I suppose it could be him, but given that he already came back with AACracked, and now has created riggedpoker after AACracked was banned, it seems unlikely.
I figured diffcode was a new Stork alt. Seems to write similarly to him.
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02-18-2014 , 04:54 PM
diffcode:
Post your findings in another forum PLEASE! Go to youtube, facebook, twitter, pokerscout would be very good(under room reviews). Youre more that wasting your time here.
You should see by now you are asking about shady going ons and directing your questions to online site employees, affiliates, 2+2 employess and site promoters. They will say anything to make you think your wrong when it comes to rigging thse sites. What your saying about manipulating the deal is absoluety correct as the cards come out of the RNG, sent to a software program which deals certain cards to each individual who are tracked by their IP adress. Cards are dealt accordingly to new players/depositors, ones with a certain profit level. etc.
The "people" in here are habitual liars, use the smoke and mirrors game, use diversion and waffle. They are here hourly, every day for year prtecting their financail interest which is the online poker scam.
Go somewhere else now!
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02-18-2014 , 04:59 PM
Solid advice from a clearly intelligent person above this post, and I'm sure it's their very first account on this site.
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02-18-2014 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
Solid advice from a clearly intelligent person above this post, and I'm sure it's their very first account on this site.
As you can see it took 5 minutes for one of the employees to rush in here and discredit my post. Sarting t understand now?
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02-18-2014 , 05:40 PM
hello blatantlyrigged
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02-18-2014 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by riggedpoker
just been at the wrong end of the pokerstars rig again. first few hands of the tourney, i pick up 55 on the btn. i raise it to 3x and bb calls me. the flop comes QT8r and i make my continuation bet. bb minraises me, so i push all in. he calls with AK. of course a jack hits on the turn to eliminate me from the tournament, ****ing bs. always get beaten by the fish on pokerstars in tournaments.
You shove with 55 on that flop and he's the fish?
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02-18-2014 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowcalorie
You shove with 55 on that flop and he's the fish?
Don't feed.
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