Arty, you probably think you are good at sex, but I would bet a lot of money that you are in the bottom 30 percentile.

FYP. With apologies.

What exactly was your plan to prove this belief? You certainly have a lot on your agenda:

- A fictional poker hand study that will never be delivered

- Meeting new pretend high rollers

- Discarding your 9/11 beliefs

- Determining Arty's sexual prowess (which to date is the only thing a riggie has been willing to actually wager on)


No wonder you rarely have time to accomplish anything.

All the best.

Your jealousy is overflowing, yet there is not that much to be jealous of.

What do you think the best way to conduct this study would be? How large a sample of girls do we need? We could have Arty have sex with two groups with 10 ten girls in each. One group will have young, attractive girls that are very picky. The other group will be girls that are overweight, have bad skin, and are not very picky. I'm sure Arty will claim the sample size isn't large enough (who wouldn't?!), but I think this would give us a good idea.

One problem -- How are we ever going to come up with enough money to get this many girls to sleep with Arty?

Unusual interpretation on your part though I agree you do not have any skill set or knowledge that would generate jealousy. Not even sure why you think that is worth mentioning.

You were the one that brought that whole topic up, and I doubt "pretty girls" have anything to do with it from your perspective.

All I was doing was pointing out the interesting activities/interests you post about while producing no actual work.

If you ever actually do something be sure to let us all know. Here, let me help:

- How is that online poker study of yours coming along?

- When will you stand behind your 9/11 beliefs with some conviction?


All the best.

I have always found this discussion interesting and I personally believe online poker hands are predetermined. Not rigged in the sense of one player having favor over another, just rigged in the since of the outcome is already decided.

I have played online poker since about mid 2008, I think, and never wanted to believe this. However, playing online poker off/on from 2008-Black Friday on various sites, I occasionally saw 4 of a kind, rarely ever a straight flush and never a royal flush. Then in January 2012, after starting back playing on Bovada, I saw countless four of a kinds, 5 straight flushes and 3 royal flushes, in about a week! LOL (Not to mention one Royal flush hit against me in a tournament beating my full house aces full of kings and another players flush!)

I am not complaining about it because accepting or believing this seems to actually have improved my online poker game. Maybe that's just a result of making me play more tight or pay more attention to what's going on but I ain't complaining either way.

This is how live poker works as the deck is set in advance as well (though random).

Assuming you believe more sinister forces are at work the question would be how do the rooms know how the players will actually play the hands?

It is coming along well. I wonder if Cake has people monitoring this forum, because I have been running surprisingly in-line. With this spurt of a non-bad-luck streak, I have turned $3.50 into $75 in just 3 days! Don't get me wrong, I still lost a huge pot with AA vs 89 suited on the bubble, QQ vs A8 on 8 high flop for the win, and QQ vs 34 on A 10 7 flop on the bubble (turn 2, river 5), along with others today, but the numbers are starting to look less rigged! This is good news as I do not want poker to be rigged!

What is your obsession with 9-11?

http://www.ae911truth.org/ You can start here.

Good point. This has been mentioned a few times. You cant control it for your own good eventually though. The site will give you many winning hands to get your confidence up and your profit, then take it away plus more.
So, manipulating the deal like this do does no one any good over the long run.
The purpose of this is to create rebuy after rebuy. The #1 goal of these scam poker sites.

No doubt the cake people are sitting on the edge of their seats monitoring your progress, except for the fact that you have never stated your user name so how would they know it is you anyway?

Worst thing a paranoid person can discover is nobody is watching him or cares about him.

I don't have any. I believe the Commission Report is accurate. That's my opinion and I am comfortable to stand behind it. Shame you lack that same ability to stand behind your beliefs.

If and when you want to share your beliefs beyond a google search or a link to someone else's work let us know.

Also understand that until you actually produce some work or detailed opinions all you are is a guy who keeps promising these things without yet delivering. You have yet to change that, and we both know it.

All the best.

Oh, I don't think they do. Imo, it's just a matter of leading a horse to water but it's up to them if they drink or not.

There are various types of "random", with the main question for me being, is online poker's random, the same as live shuffler/dealer poker's random? I don't believe it is and think the randomness in online poker maybe derived from not having a set time when the "rigged"/preset for the potential of maximum rake, hands, will come up.

I look at like having a contest where finding the blue M&M would win someone a million dollars, so one blue M&M goes out randomly among zillions of bags. I believe online poker sites, variously increase the amount of "blue M&M'" rake hands versus what would occur randomly with actual real life shuffles and dealers.

I remember some site talking about having actual cards being dealt out and storing the hands to be replayed for online poker. That would be interesting if it could be verified. With all the money in online poker, it's a wonder nobody has started a poker site with live dealers on a web cam at each table.

There is definitely a niche for that. lol

I hope they aren't watching me.

The guy heading up the original 9-11 commission report quit because of the inability to get access or report on important information. He stated that there was big corruption taking place and the report is now irrelevant. That is why there are so many people throughout the world and in the US government demanding a new study.

But CNN and Fox news said it was true, so maybe you should take their word for it.

Well I think the game is meant to be sold not told, so I want go too in depth on here for free, into what cost me many, many loses to believe. lol

I will say, even though I believe online poker to be "rigged", solid principles of poker still seem to be effective, just not the odds. Unlike playing a live poker game where their money comes from something other than the rake, you have to consider online poker is a business. I think tourneys play the same way as ring games just so it's all uniform.

I see. All you have to do then is come up with a system that creates hands based on anticipated behavior of hundreds of thousands of players in a virtually unlimited number of combinations on a variety of tables that also accounts for people coming and going and signing up for tournaments in random patterns.

Lot of work to screw people out of pennies isn't it? Might make for a fun movie I suppose. Perhaps you can write a screenplay.


Hate to break it to you - but nobody is watching you.

Want to test it - don't post here for a month and see if anyone notices or even cares. I just ask you how your "study" is going because that is an easy target. Nobody expects you to produce a study that is meaningful, nor does anyone even care if you do a study.



I am still waiting for you to express your opinion instead of the opinions of others. Your lack of courage and conviction is disappointing, but not surprising.

All the best.

Again, if nobody is watching me, that is a good thing. You are very thick headed.

I am doing my study whether you like it or not. I don't care whether you find out the results or not. I am doing the study for me and my own peace of mind. I will be happy to share results with others that are interested.

As for 9-11. I have stated that I do believe information is being withheld, and the public is being deceived. I don't know what happened that day. I don't know who did it. But I am certainly not going to believe the CONSPIRACY THEORY fed by the media to the public. Do your own research if you are interested. It isn't my job to spoon feed you information on an internet forum. Stop being so lazy.

Kind of wondered when some snide remark would come along, didn't take long.lol

To understand your point, how exactly do you think unrigged poker hands are generated online?

Now take that system, which I presume would have to be programmed and try to imagine an alternate reality where movies can be streamed to tiny hand held devices, tv/monitors are as thin as paper and computers can be reprogrammed to give different results.

On second thought nevermind, not even George Lucas could make that seem realistic.

They are dealt randomly, and lots of people will pay (via rake) for the privilege of being dealt online cards to play. Sometimes simple really is what works in the real world.

Your beliefs are entertaining though so again consider that "write a manuscript" suggestion.



Nobody is watching you. Nobody cares. That is reality.

I only ask once in a while because it is fun messing with riggies, but you will never produce a study that is meaningful, verifiable and significant. You are already setting that up with the "doing it for myself" angle where you will say that whatever "study" you did verified your concerns without you being able to share your data or prove anything to anyone else.

Maybe make a youtube video after and claim to be an insider. Other riggies will believe you.

So your beliefs are basically that you believe other people who have said things you want to believe in. That is the definition of lazy. If and when YOU ever have the courage to post and stand behind YOUR beliefs then I will give you credit even if I do not agree with them., Thusfar you keep taking the easy way out.

You are so mundane.

All the best.

What should I do? Hire someone to come here and play on my account for me? Oh wait! That is "illegal",and the FBI will come (not). And again, I am doing it because I want to know if it is rigged or not. I hope that it isn't rigged. As I just said, the results are starting to look better. If the results point to something being off, I will release my name and the hands can be analyzed by others. If I come on here and say my results indicate that online poker is indeed in-line and random, will you call bs? I'm not here to get followers and prove a point. I'm simply trying to get an answer.

Fk you and your insults and silly little comebacks.

Whether you say "it is rigged" or "it is not rigged" is actually quite secondary if you are basing it on an undocumented and unreleased "study." Unless you do the study in a meaningful, verifiable way all you are is some random dude with a gimmick account stating an opinion and nothing more.

You have not even stated your user names, so for now all you are is, well, nothing.

Want to put me in my place? Do some actual work or take pride in stating an opinion with details that you believe in. Will I agree with whatever your melting steel 9/11 beliefs are? Probably not, but I will respect if you actually take the time and pride in explaining your beliefs in detail.

In contrast, I don't care about throwaway little degens like blatantdude who never say anything, which is why I never read or reply to his posts. You are claiming to be more than that so how about you actually do something that merits that for a change.

Time for you to put up or shut up or perhaps even "wakeup" to how the real world works.

All the best.

By who or what? A computer program, person, that severed hand from the Adam's Family, how are they dealt randomly?

Lol. Alright, well said. Those are good points. I understand what you are saying from your perspective. I promise I will become more available if I continue to make claims about online being rigged. I just don't want anything to be compromised at this point.

You can read about the deal at all the various large networks. If you want to create some kind of "severed hand" theory then go for it I guess.



You are starting to understand my perspective. I don't care if people say the sites are evil, they can say what they want. I did not offer the $1,000 reward for verifiable proof of rigging because I have "faith" that it is not rigged. I make a considerable amount of money in this industry so if anyone can prove to me a segment is genuinely "bad" I want to know and I will pay for that information.

Realistically most riggies are just boring bad beat whiners who fail at poker, but there are genuine threads about collusion, rake amounts and other issues that I place a lot of weight and attention to because they really matter.

If you or any other riggie proves a rig at a major site it will be money well spent, but perhaps you can now understand why at this point I am not worried about writing a check just quite yet based on what riggies typically offer.

You know this which is why I am pushing you to do more than the blatantthrowaways if you can. Do I expect anything revolutionary? Honestly, no, but always best to hedge ones bets.

Real world - and for this industry in the end it is pretty much about money.

Honestly, if I do find that it's rigged, I might go to the site first and see what they can do. If you know what I mean ;-).

Go get 'em, Wake!

Again, can you tell me how you think unrigged hands are dealt randomly in online poker?