One thing is definitely an improvement though ... I have the honor to not be called a shill anymore and am reduced to "affiliate scum". I should really put that in my CV.

I was, at one time, categorised as an 'ignorant dreamer'.

Not sure what BR considers the correct nomenclature at the moment.

Is this you leaving the thread? Again?

What we see in people like BR and TPTK is huge cognitive dissonance when confronted with arguments against their position, so they get aggressive about it or ignore it, and make accusations about the motives of the people making them, rather than actually try and have a rational discussion about the foundations of their beliefs.

It is much easier to pretend the people arguing against your position have some secret nefarious agenda - that let's you dismiss their positions without even considering them and keeps their own preconceived notions in tact.

I didn't read every word, but it looks like this player accepts that bad luck is just bad luck. At one point he makes a joke about things being rigged, but not a serious claim.

Good try, but the truth of the matter is I have no desire to waste my time having a meaningful discussion with site employees, affiliates or site promoters, and you guys clearly fall into said categories.

In the off chance youre not, (1% chance, MAYBE ), then get a life and stop being so naive. Go outside, it might do some good.

Agreed.

This is part of what I was talking about in post #44190.

It's something you see more in children because they tend, through inexperience, to get ideas that they cannot defend rationally.

And you spend a lot of time having 'discussions' (read, having your idiocy explained to you) with us so I guess we cannot be 'site employees, affiliates or site promoters'.

Ooops!

You are such a ****** that you cannot even maintain an internal logical consistency to your rantings.

Looks like he had a couple of unlucky hands around 2.8K, then ran even for 3K more hands, then one short stretch of bad luck between 5K and 8K hands played. Ever since then he has run just about dead on EV, actually over EV for a bit between 17K and 19K hands. If you look at just the last 15K hands he's dead even with EV.

So what was your point about this totally un-noteworthy graph?



Edit: do you have the mistaken belief that the parallel lines should "even out" again at some point? No, once he got $31 under EV, his future expectation is to be that amount under EV forever. The short period of bad luck shown about one quarter into that graph is water under the bridge and has nothing to do with future expectation at all.

WTF are you talking about, moron?

Good for you! You were very lucky! But, your success is no less anecdotal than someone else's failure to grow a BR. I only suggest that people try the games to see for themselves, to see if they arrive at the same conclusions.

Suggestion. Don't use expressions like "internal logical consistency" when talking to BR as it clearly confuses the hell out of him.

Yeah, I suppose it was a bit of a stretch to expect him to understand a sentence containing more than a couple of consecutive polysyllabic words

Something else for your CV.

...and you with him. ON CHRISTMAS DAY!

Dude, don't be a c unt all your life.

Get out while you still can.

Is this a mother****ing level????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????

I have seen it all now

You don't seem to be getting the hang of this easy words for BR thing.

SCS has just come into the thread and said that people are more likely to call the turn bet when they pick up extra outs.

WELL HELLO REALITY FM that's why I'm saying weak flopped hands TURNING EXTRA out do not count in what I'm asking for as the turn card is giving the weak hand more reason to stay in the pot!!!!!!!

@Bingo Boy, why do they call the river- the more invested in a pot, the more liely someone is going to make a bad call by the river. We've all made bad calls in the past on the river after making a poor turn decision.

There have been times when I've felt nearly certain that this or that RNG (or random 4 to a straight/flush generator) was rigged--I've just run that damn bad (as has anyone who's played hundreds of thousands to millions of hands). I vent, I rage, I think about throwing my computer out the window, and then I get back to playing; and winning. I came to this to see if anyone could show me that my occasional feelings of hate for RNGs had any logic at all.

Nope.

One side keeps presenting pretty faultless argumentation while the other ducks, dodges, and spews.

I'm sure I could throw some charts up that show some absolutely crazy stuff if I were better with filters on either HEM or PT3; but all they would really show is just how crazy variance is.

I guess there's a third certainty in life now...death, taxes, and that the rigged debate on 2+2 will never end.

As was pointed out ITT, some of us have computers with internet access in our homes, and can use them whenever we like.

The triumph of optimism over experience.

This.

What the f uck does this even mean? Then when they don't what?

If he doesn't, then he's not the only one.

Learn English.

Yeah OK, as I say, QK CAN make TPWK.

Picking up a gut shot on the turn DOES NOT give the calling player more outs and reason to stay in the pot. (Although SCS just spectacularly made himself like stupid by telling me how silly I am for not realsing a turned gut shot encourages a player to stay in the pot- yes, it is getting quite confusing for unintelligent people at this point )

So I'm 'pretending' to dismiss arguments, even though Monty's HH is of QK which cannot flop TPWKm, and his HH showed an example of a flopped hand turning extra outs in the form of a draw.

Only I to this point, have posted a cold caller flopping TPWK
and getting to showdown without picking up an extra outs on the turn. I've posted a few in the FTP thread.

It is a fact, and one can pretend it isn't by saying I'm deluded blah blah blah, but no one else has been able to post a HH showing this scenario for FTP.

"Than when".

Come on, Ray, you can do better then pick up on typos.