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09-03-2011 , 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Paragraph #1. Since you devote your life to defending the OLP scam, prove you have or do actually play online and i will.

Paragraph #2. If you dont, Ill assume my accusations are correct. The dreamers are another category which you probably dont fall in to. They are the ones too ignorant to know what is going on, or are so hooked on playing they continue to believe theyre playing a fair game when obviously theyre not, and can see that they are not.
You really are too animal stupid to realise that whether or not I play on line poker is irrelevant to this discussion.

I expect people to judge my arguments on the basis of the logic contained within them not how much I win at poker.
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09-03-2011 , 05:05 AM
It's rigged in my favour obv
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09-03-2011 , 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
You really are too animal stupid to realise that whether or not I play on line poker is irrelevant to this discussion.

I expect people to judge my arguments on the basis of the logic contained within them not how much I win at poker.
Your site promoting job might be hanging on a thread with that terrible response.
Its obvious you dont play, so why devote your life to defending rigged OLP?
If theres one thing I hate more than life wrecking scams like slot machines, online blackjack, casinos, and rigged online poker, its the scum that promote it.

Last edited by blatantlyrigged; 09-03-2011 at 05:12 AM.
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09-03-2011 , 05:14 AM
[QUOTE=SwoopAE;28519080]It's rigged in my favour obv[/QUOTE

Enjoy while you can, its only temporary. 100% guaranteed.
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09-03-2011 , 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Not sure if youre a site promoter alias, but just in case youre not, the absolute proof is around the corner from you.
If you play online, keep it up. Use your common sense and logic. Use your eyes, (very important), and watch and remember exactly what is going on. Do these things faithfully, and you should be able to see how manipulated the deal really is. Its up to you after that if you still want to play on the scam that is OLP.
IMPORTANT INFO. Dont listen to all the site promoters in this thread. Wiki, monteroy, bingo_boy J9suited, plus many others.




Since youre a loser at 50/100, no need to worry (alias boy?), everleaf has no players on those tables! LOL LOL
OOPS
I completely agree. These site promoter shills talk about their "pokertacker hand histories" and "empirical data" but I know that the real proof of an unfair deal can be observed by watching a few hands. I mean I lost with AA all in preflop v. KK. Multiple times!!!

I will never use a HUD because I know that they were invented by the rigged sites and site promoting shills to make the sheeple believe that the games are fair. It is a global conspiracy to make me lose at poker and make me believe that I lose because I am an inferior player, when I know I am the best player of all time. I just know in my heart that I am chock full of natural talent at the game and have therefore not studied or read books about it, which would undermine my genetically superior ability. My continued losses could obviously never be explained by anything but an unfair deal.

You are a crusader for the good of poker players everywhere; don't let the shills tell you otherwise. By the way, in your dissertation exposing the sickeningly unfair deal which caused me (and many other geniuses) to lose with aces, could you also investigate Norton anti-virus, Pokertracker, Comcast Internet, and my bitchy girlfriend? I believe that they are also in on the conspiracy to make me (and other geniuses like me) lose.

Thanks in advance. You are doing good work, sir.
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09-03-2011 , 06:07 AM
^^^ The most amusing thing is that blatantly******ed will take this at face value.
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09-03-2011 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sewhog
You ..........


Hi.

You ignored my reply to you again.
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09-03-2011 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
Hi.

You ignored my reply to you again.
Standard riggie technique.

If anyone makes a reply that answers their question or contradicts their claim they either:

1) Scream "Shill!"

2) Ask how much you play on line

3) Ask why you spend so much time defending OLP.

4) Ignore you and repeat the claim or question a few days later.
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09-03-2011 , 07:04 AM
Only on randomstars can you be dealt face-rag all night long and then run kings into aces blind-on-blind.

What a farce lol.
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09-03-2011 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Paragraph #1. Since you devote your life to defending the OLP scam, prove you have or do actually play online and i will.

Paragraph #2. If you dont, Ill assume my accusations are correct. The dreamers are another category which you probably dont fall in to. They are the ones too ignorant to know what is going on, or are so hooked on playing they continue to believe theyre playing a fair game when obviously theyre not, and can see that they are not.
He wont because he works for them....He will completely avoid this!
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09-03-2011 , 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by wutangpoker
sheeple
Busted.
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09-03-2011 , 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Enjoy while you can, its only temporary. 100% guaranteed.
How are you still too stupid to quote properly? It is one button. WTF is wrong with you?
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09-03-2011 , 07:49 AM
I've now tested Bodog using the same test that has been run on Stars, Party, Entraction, Merge & Ongame. Here is a brief description of the test. Much more detail, full results and copies of data-sets used etc can be seen here.

Game: 6-max cash tables at 5c/10c no-limit
Dataset: 1.1 million hands from PTR
Sample: Heads-up pre-flop all-ins

Analysis 1, For all-hands:
hand seen from view of pre-flop caller (filtered for caller)
calculate expected number hands won
count actual number hands won
compare actual deviation to standard deviation

Analysis 2:
Assumptions - Winning players will, more often than not, be ahead in a pre-flop all-in. Losing players will, more often than not, be behind in a pre-flop all-in.
Separate hands into equity bands 50-100% (ahead hands) and 0-50% (behind hands).
Repeat Analysis 1 for both these sub-sets

Analysis 3: Repeat for dominated and dominating hands.

Here's a pre-emptive strike especially for this thread:

For those thinking that I've tampered with the data/results... I've made the PT report downloadable so that you can use it on your own hand histories and therefore be sure that no tampering has taken place!
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09-03-2011 , 10:11 AM
But will it blend?
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09-03-2011 , 10:51 AM
For wutangpoker:
I have a great vacation idea for you, seeing its the long weekend.
Might I suggest a long walk off a short cliff?
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09-03-2011 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by joker15801
He wont because he works for them....He will completely avoid this!
Yea, already knew that. Was looking for the response, and got the expected.
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09-03-2011 , 10:59 AM
OK!

Laughing assassin, I will be depositing in just a second!
You have me convinced!
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09-03-2011 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
OK!

Laughing assassin, I will be depositing in just a second!
You have me convinced!
Good grief!

Blatantly******ed's brain has just kicked it.

Surely just a temporary glitch and his normal inane utterances will resume shortly.
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09-03-2011 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by blatantlyrigged
Laughing assassin, I will be depositing in just a second!
Me too! After reading the full results and data-set, I can't wait to get some money on that site.

Goody gumdrops.
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09-03-2011 , 11:17 AM
Face-rag was the theme on randomstars the other night, I think tonight's theme is low off-suited connectors - which pretty much sucks.

It's gonna be really great to play on Bodog, where, according to the "full results and copies of the data-sets", they deal a straight game.

Bring it on!
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09-03-2011 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Laughing Assassin
I've now tested Bodog using the same test that has been run on Stars, Party, Entraction, Merge & Ongame. Here is a brief description of the test. Much more detail, full results and copies of data-sets used etc can be seen here.

Game: 6-max cash tables at 5c/10c no-limit
Dataset: 1.1 million hands from PTR
Sample: Heads-up pre-flop all-ins

Analysis 1, For all-hands:
hand seen from view of pre-flop caller (filtered for caller)
calculate expected number hands won
count actual number hands won
compare actual deviation to standard deviation

Analysis 2:
Assumptions - Winning players will, more often than not, be ahead in a pre-flop all-in. Losing players will, more often than not, be behind in a pre-flop all-in.
Separate hands into equity bands 50-100% (ahead hands) and 0-50% (behind hands).
Repeat Analysis 1 for both these sub-sets

Analysis 3: Repeat for dominated and dominating hands.

Here's a pre-emptive strike especially for this thread:

For those thinking that I've tampered with the data/results... I've made the PT report downloadable so that you can use it on your own hand histories and therefore be sure that no tampering has taken place!
Do you really think that this will have even the slightest impact on those that need to believe that poker is rigged?

You may as well send this information to a mental institution; on second thought that would just be a duplication of services.
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09-03-2011 , 11:31 AM
Jump up and put it in the basket chief.
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09-03-2011 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Laughing Assassin
I've now tested Bodog using the same test that has been run on Stars, Party, Entraction, Merge & Ongame. Here is a brief description of the test. Much more detail, full results and copies of data-sets used etc can be seen here.

Game: 6-max cash tables at 5c/10c no-limit
Dataset: 1.1 million hands from PTR
Sample: Heads-up pre-flop all-ins

Analysis 1, For all-hands:
hand seen from view of pre-flop caller (filtered for caller)
calculate expected number hands won
count actual number hands won
compare actual deviation to standard deviation

Analysis 2:
Assumptions - Winning players will, more often than not, be ahead in a pre-flop all-in. Losing players will, more often than not, be behind in a pre-flop all-in.
Separate hands into equity bands 50-100% (ahead hands) and 0-50% (behind hands).
Repeat Analysis 1 for both these sub-sets

Analysis 3: Repeat for dominated and dominating hands.

Here's a pre-emptive strike especially for this thread:

For those thinking that I've tampered with the data/results... I've made the PT report downloadable so that you can use it on your own hand histories and therefore be sure that no tampering has taken place!
Ok, we now know that the sites are not so stupid to rig all in hands. However, how do we know that they do not rig the deal in other hands? We don't. And we don't have the evidence or data to test whether or not they do because we don't have all the hole cards for all hands.
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09-03-2011 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by raymears
Jump up and put it in the basket chief.
Fly over the cookoo's nest? Watta great movie
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09-03-2011 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JPFisher55
Ok, we now know that the sites are not so stupid to rig all in hands.
Yet there are many that disagree, who have as much as evidence for their theories as you do

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Originally Posted by JPFisher55
However, how do we know that they do not rig the deal in other hands? We don't.
We know there are known knowns: there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns: that is to say we know there are things we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know.

So in conclusion, what exactly are the known unknowns to you, which are unknown unknowns to everybody else.
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