m a y b e..... I have a really hard time believing someone who plays regularly is that ignorant. Plus, hes no dummy. So, on second thought, I dont buy it.
The only other alternative is that hes so addicted, hes blind to whats happening. Even is that case its VERY hard to believe.

How is it that I was a losing player for 12 months, then when I started to apply myself, work at my game and study I've bow been a consistent winner for 12 months? Did my winning streak just happen to coincide with the pokerstars RNG deciding that I'm gonna win for a bit, o was it all my hard work?

Yet that guy will keep calling (and believing) he is a shill and site promoter until the end of time. You know he is wrong with such a strange belief, so what would you say that shows of his general ability to make judgments?


Some players are just break even players. Others may have won for a while but as the games got a bit tougher they became break even players.

You never made much in your entire career, even though if any of the patterns/rigs you identified were true you could have made millions. Either that makes you really stupid (for not exploiting your knowledge of the rig for money) or a break even type player. Which is it?



Not everyone has a foundation of paranoia for their life that evil entities are at work against them.

Why don't you list your couple dozen conspiracy questions again.


Some people play as a hobby or for fun. Not everyone is a serious hard core break even player like yourself.


Scary when one lives in a world filled with paranoia about hidden powers out to get you. In the real world many of the players who play NL2 do it for the same reason some people play all sorts of free games online.

What do you think most people in the real world would say about your career that earned a few hundred bucks over years? That actually is scary.


Most players don't have that concern and most when told will not care, which is why riggies talk in this thread and that is as far as their voices travel.

Hopefully 2011 was a relatively good year for you and you made more than a hundred bucks at your job.

All the best.

I don't know where you get the few hundred bucks from? Since 2008 I've made just under $7,000 from online poker, that's from bonuses and play, so more with RB added.

Although I no longer play with RB, I play for my win rate.

Given I only play 1-2 hours a day and I enjoy playing (most of the time ), I think I've done OK considering I work full time as well.

Sites I claim to be rigged I actually had profitable results on. The only site I ever lost money over a decent sample was FTP. I also lost from outright play at I-Poker over smaller samples, but profited overall with sign up bonuses included.

Hey, maybe these sites aren't rigged and it is all variance, but I'll take my money where I feel I stand a chance.

Going into 2012, I may even start taking shots at NL50, my game has improved a lot recently.

Well, even if your figures are correct that is still well below a job at McDonalds, but you did identify a lot of reasons why people play (ie for fun). Good job in realizing that this can be a nice hobby for you and that is about it.

Good job on working on your game as well, though you do realize many of teh riggies will say that is a complete waste of time.

Do you think working on your game is a complete waste of time? Also, what would you advise riggies who are convinced everyone in the world is a shill (even 2 NL players).


All the best.

Like so many others. If variance werent written all over every thread in every poker forum people would perhaps not turn a blind eye to everything they see.

It is not very hard for a site to rig their RNG when most of the players dont pay any attention to what is going on. They are all just sleeping during the games while dreaming about variance. "Ahh, anything can happen"

You don't need most people to be paying attention. You just need some people.

Not really.

I'm well aware I don't make much money from this game vs time invested (and not many do), but I do enjoy poker, and 1-2 hours a day for a couple of hundred extra a month isn't bad for a hobby.

I'm fully aware I could just quit poker and do a few days overtime in work and make more, but I do enjoy playing, it's nice to get home sometimes and fire up my regular games listening to some nice music.

Of course working on your game is worthwhile, if you're going to play the game you may as well make some money whilst doing it.

I have no aspirations of being a poker pro- the discipline it would take to play full time hours, makes me cringe just thinking about it. My game starts to srtuggle at the 2 hour mark, usually before, how on earth anybody could endure 30 hours+ a week playing a stressful game like poker i'd never know.

As a little profitable hobby, an hour here and there, online poker is OK if you know which sites to play.

So how did that pan out for you?

Au contraire.

There are millions of them.

It's just that if they are entirely software based they cannot generate genuinely random numbers.

That does not mean they cannot generate numbers that are adequately random for any particular application.

ROFLMAO!

I wonder where they plucked that figure from.

These no playing friends of yours certainly seem to know a suspiciously large amount about the way sites work, not to mention poker terminology.

It's hardly a matter for the regulatory authorities if the sites were doing what was necessary to circumvent a US measure that has been declared illegal by the WTO.

Your observation might have a tad more credibility if you demonstrated some knowledge about Alderney and Gibraltar. At a bare minimum, how to spell their names.

That's really very funny.

Do you mean in the same way that the US financial regulatory authorities have a long and distinguished record of regulating companies such as Enron, Madoff, and Worldcom?

Do you contradict yourself often Wiki?


The only true random number generator is the human brain. random number generator on a poker or any other site is not truely random. It is a computer programme that is subject to the rules of it's programming. Can it be rigged to make sure that the worse hand wins on the river? Yes of course it can be. Is it rigged to make sure that the worse hand wins on the river? i don't know the answer to that!

Where did I contradict myself?

There are millions of random number generators. But, just like many other things we use and rely upon they are not perfect. Merely often good enough for the task for which they are used.

ROFLMAO!

You have just demonstrated your ignorance in the most spectaular way imaginable.

Quite.

How random does it need to be to do its job?

Nice tautology.

Of course it could.

But it would be a phenomenally difficult task.

Much easier to simply ignore the RNG and deal the cards required for the effect you want.

How can the human brain be completely random????

lol wut. if i wanted a series of random numbers, the very last place i would go to is the human brain. what a load of rubbish.

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Originally Posted by Trishthafish
They told me that there is no such thing as a random number generator.

Au contraire.

There are millions of them.It's just that if they are entirely software based they cannot generate genuinely random numbers.

That does not mean they cannot generate numbers that are adequately random for any particular application.

This is where you contradict yourself. You state that there are MILLIONS of random number generators but they are in fact not random! So what you are really saying is that there are number generators.

"But it would be a phenomenally difficult task".
Not really.


lol wut. if i wanted a series of random numbers, the very last place i would go to is the human brain. what a load of rubbish.


Well if your poor brain is not able to come up with a random number at will then i think you may have a serious condition sir.....please seek professional help asap.

i can pick one random number, for sure. but when it comes to picking a large number of random numbers, the human brain just isn't that great. mostly, because it will tend to avoid "obvious" numbers because they're not "random" enough.

i can guarantee you that the most basic rand() function call in any software library will generate a better random sample of 500 numbers over any range than any human brain.

How about learning how to quote properly?

On the matter RNG's not being perfect; why do you believe that random numbers need to be any more perfect than any of the other myriad things we create/generate before they can assume their common appellation?

You are reinforcing the evidence for you idiocy with every post.

Even for a rigtard you are unusually clueless.

well, i might be wrong about this: http://eugen.leitl.org/striz/striz.o...ndomnumber.pdf

either way, it would be pretty inefficient to ask humans to generate the random numbers required for our actual needs. the random numbers generated by machines are random enough for all practical purposes.

[QUOTE=Wiki;29907339]How about learning how to quote properly?


Well you will have to forgive me for not mastering all of the functions on this site. Unlike you i have not spent the last 4 years 24/7 trolling this site.

On the matter RNG's not being perfect; why do you believe that random numbers need to be any more perfect than any of the other myriad things we create/generate before they can assume their common appellation?


I am not saying they need to be perfect all i am saying is that they are not TRUELY random and they are (quite easily) open to abuse if someone wanted to rig them.


You are reinforcing the evidence for you idiocy with every post.

Men fought and died in wars so idiots like you could have an opinion


Even for a rigtard you are unusually clueless.[/QUOTE]

Not a rigtard fyi. I play for fun and i have no strong opinion on either arguement of rigging. I only come back to this thread to see you frothing at the mouth fighting every post that someone puts up.


Read back and see i was just stating that random number generators are not truely random.

Anyone who is not educationally sub normal can work out how to quote in about ten seconds. It's clear from your drivel why it might take you four years.

Once again you demonstrate your almost complete cluelessness about just about everything. (Includiong how to spell 'truly'.)

Why don't you try and explain how you can rig something that is doing nothing more than producing a string of context-less numbers to favour some player on the river.

It should be good for a laugh if nothing else.

I think you will find that what they were actually fighting for was people's rights to express their opinions. No one could ever stop people holding them.

OK, just some random idiot.

How disappointing for you.

And in other news, the pope has been found to be a catholic and ursine mammals have been proven to defecate in arboreal areas.

But thanks for your input, Captain Obvious.

Oh, and do learn how to spell 'truly'.

Or some random idiot's "15 year old son."

There's a lot to be said for quoting ages to the base 6.

Oh, and do learn how to spell 'Including'. [/QUOTE]