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11-18-2011 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by raymears
Or some random idiot's "15 year old son."
Oh look ray smear test has arrived to put in his daily quota of stupid posts.
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11-18-2011 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tompakee
Oh, and do learn how to spell 'Including'.
ROFLMAO.

Nice try.

You might like to try and learn the difference between an obvious typo and a repeated spelling mistake.
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11-18-2011 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
ROFLMAO.

Nice try.

You might like to try and learn the difference between an obvious typo and a repeated spelling mistake.
Yes i made a spelling mistake and you made a typo.....I decided to nipick just like you.....Best way to beat an idiot is at their own game
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11-18-2011 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tompakee
Oh look ray smear test has arrived to put in his daily quota of stupid posts.
Does your 'da' know you're using his computer? Lol.

Ya great eejit ya.
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11-18-2011 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by raymears
So how did that pan out for you?
Easy win this time. Guess you have given up even trying after so many losses. Even TPTK is posting better quality than you lately.



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Originally Posted by TPTK27
I'm well aware I don't make much money from this game vs time invested (and not many do), but I do enjoy poker, and 1-2 hours a day for a couple of hundred extra a month isn't bad for a hobby.

I'm fully aware I could just quit poker and do a few days overtime in work and make more, but I do enjoy playing, it's nice to get home sometimes and fire up my regular games listening to some nice music.

Of course working on your game is worthwhile, if you're going to play the game you may as well make some money whilst doing it.

I have no aspirations of being a poker pro- the discipline it would take to play full time hours, makes me cringe just thinking about it. My game starts to srtuggle at the 2 hour mark, usually before, how on earth anybody could endure 30 hours+ a week playing a stressful game like poker i'd never know.

As a little profitable hobby, an hour here and there, online poker is OK if you know which sites to play.

You make a lot more sense once you calm down and drop issues such as which mystical forces owns the banks.

All of these are very valid reasons to play, and many who also play for fun do so without worrying so much about winning/variance etc.

You also are disproving a very common riggie belief that working on one's game does not matter when of course it makes a huge difference.

What you do need to better understand (especially as a guy who investigates things) is that the poker world is also filled with players who do extensive research with their own databases of hands (non riggies use programs like Holdem Manager) into the other players while working on their games, and this is how many of the cheating/collusion/softplay scandals have been definitively proven.

Those guys do great work for the industry and they actually back their claims with proof so when you and others make random claims based on patters you cannot prove you are also dismissing the genuine hard work the real investigative players have done in the past.

As someone who tries to uncover the truth in lots of topics you should have better respect for those who are legitimately doing it in this industry (with actual proven results), wouldn't you agree?
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11-18-2011 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
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Originally Posted by raymears
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Nah, was bored so was trying to pick a fight for fun.
So how did that pan out for you?
Easy win this time.
Nice! Who were you fighting, eh punchy?



What happened? You get fed up with prancing around with your muay thai butt-buddies?
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11-18-2011 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by raymears
Does your 'da' know you're using his computer? Lol.

Ya great eejit ya.
Not sure if you are trying to be

(A) Funny.

(B) Racist.

(C) A really bad Irish impersonator.


Whicever you are trying you are failing on a grand scale.
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11-18-2011 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tompakee
Oh, and do learn how to spell 'Including'. [/QUOTE]
BTW, congrats on getting the quoting half right.
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11-18-2011 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by tompakee
Not sure if you are trying to be

(A) Funny.

(B) Racist.

(C) A really bad Irish impersonator.
A) Seemed quite funny to me.

B) Calling an idiot an idiot is not racist.

c) You're a stoopid, stoopid, eeejit. Better?
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11-18-2011 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
A) Seemed quite funny to me.

B) Calling an idiot an idiot is not racist.

c) You're a stoopid, stoopid, eeejit. Better?
You would find it funny seeing as you both seem to share the same single brain cell
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11-18-2011 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
BTW, congrats on getting the quoting half right.
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11-18-2011 , 11:55 AM
Really scraping the bottom of the barrell this morning eh guys? Oh well, guess it's friday!
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11-18-2011 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
Really scraping the bottom of the barrell this morning eh guys? Oh well, guess it's friday!
4PM here bring on the weekend
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11-18-2011 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tompakee
You would find it funny seeing as you both seem to share the same single brain cell
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Originally Posted by tompakee
Yawwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzz


Feel better now?
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11-18-2011 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiki


Feel better now?
I didn't feel bad in the first place
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11-18-2011 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
Really scraping the bottom of the barrell this morning eh guys? Oh well, guess it's friday!
Yes - once again this thread fulfils its (lack of) promise but you must admit that this new 'tompakee' gimmick is especially dense. His complete lack of understanding of RNGs is quite funny.
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11-18-2011 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkus63
Yes - once again this thread fulfils its (lack of) promise but you must admit that this new 'tompakee' gimmick is especially dense. His complete lack of understanding of RNGs is quite funny.
Gimmick lol


If you read back at what i said i state that i do not know or care if olp is rigged or not. All i am saying is that RNG's are not as totally random as they try to sell them.

You claim i have a complete "lack of understanding" of them so please feel free to enlighten me to the full inner workings on an RNG including how it is indeed random and not subject to the rules of computer programming.


Again for the record i am not a riggie/shill/affiliate/conspiracy theorist/atheist/creationist/or drunk (yet )
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11-18-2011 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tompakee
4PM here bring on the weekend
haha, I wish! I just want to get through this day, get the kids to bed early and play Skyrim all night! (if you know what I'm talking about you'll know why. If you don't, you won't care!)

I don't think you're a gimmick by the way. But you do know that the modern RNGs are not just algorithmic software programs right? But use external variables to produce a random string?
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11-18-2011 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
haha, I wish! I just want to get through this day, get the kids to bed early and play Skyrim all night! (if you know what I'm talking about you'll know why. If you don't, you won't care!)

I don't think you're a gimmick by the way. But you do know that the modern RNGs are not just algorithmic software programs right? But use external variables to produce a random string?
Good luck with that have seen my son playing it. Am more of a COD man myself.

Yes i understand that.....the grief started because numb nuts contradicted himself here

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Originally Posted by Trishthafish
They told me that there is no such thing as a random number generator.

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Originally Posted by Wiki

Au contraire.

There are millions of them.

It's just that if they are entirely software based they cannot generate genuinely random numbers.

He seemed to take exception to me pointing out contradiction
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11-18-2011 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by raymears
Nice! Who were you fighting, eh punchy?



What happened? You get fed up with prancing around with your muay thai butt-buddies?
You, but lately you just give up and quickly post some pictures of dude(s) from your collection and/or make references to butt-buddies before playing some of those high roller $1 tourneys that fit your bankroll.

You are kind of getting into a blatantdude repetitive routine which is immensly boring.

Take a few days off and work on your trash talk game, and if you like I can tweak Wiki a little so he rushes by your side as your assistant and you guys can work together if that helps, just let me know as I would prefer a bit of competition in future.

All the best.
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11-18-2011 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
A very tiny portion of that time (about 15-30 minutes a week) is spent reading and posting in this thread.
Lol.
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11-18-2011 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tompakee
They told me that there is no such thing as a random number generator.

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Originally Posted by Wiki

Au contraire.

There are millions of them.

It's just that if they are entirely software based they cannot generate genuinely random numbers.

He seemed to take exception to me pointing out contradiction
I take exception to the fact that you are still too pig stupid to understand that something does not have to be perfect to be what it is.

Yes, there are software RNG's.

No, they are not perfectly random.

Yes, they are still RNG's.

You seem to be a special kind of stupid to be unable to grasp that.
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11-18-2011 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
tweak Wiki a little so he rushes by your side as your assistant and you guys can work together if that helps, just let me know as I would prefer a bit of competition in future.
Competition?

Sadly, you are just too easy.

But then any grown( I assume) man who does the internet equivalent of sticking his fingers in his ears an doing 'la la la' isn't really likely to be very hard work.
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11-18-2011 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
I take exception to the fact that you are still too pig stupid to understand that something does not have to be perfect to be what it is.

Yes, there are software RNG's.

No, they are not perfectly random.

Yes, they are still RNG's.

You seem to be a special kind of stupid to be unable to grasp that.
Sounds like someone is upset?

If i advertise something as a diamond and then sell you a cubic zirconia would that not be false advertisement or could i just quote you saying something does not have to be perfect to be what it is.

If you choose to do some research you will find that they are pseudo random number generators (heres a link for you to start with)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudor...mber_generator
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11-18-2011 , 01:19 PM
Oh and in case you did not grasp the meaning of the word pseudo

The prefix pseudo- (from Greek ψευδής "lying, false") is used to mark something as false, fraudulent, or pretending to be something it is not
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