How would proving he played prove he didn't work for a poker site? Are riggies capable of any logic at all?

Not him anyway. He can't even figure out the 2 second way of potentially figuring out if someone plays. And you don't even need to leave the site!

Playing poker would be a key job requirement for a shill. Just as being incapable of logic is the key criterion for being a riggie.

Ok Bingo Boy

There is a reason I have been answering everyone except you lately (until now). You are the best at turning and twisting every argument so it wont look like what it orginically were. I cant even define what you are doing, but it is unlike anything I have ever seen from someone trying to tell another they are wrong. You also write very good and advanced English together with all the techniques you use so its hard for me to even know what you are saying. When average ignorant people read your post they might even agree with your case just because it seems well written and inteligent.

While wiki and monteroy sucked quite hard and left the thread, you are by far the best defender of a case that doesnt have a good argument and must rely on good writers.

I didnt think this answer made much sense to my question.

It only will if you think implementing any forms of patterns will always show up in analysis. But I dont think so.

What about new player boomswitch and boomswitch for recreational and bad. How will that show up in an analysis?

The initial scenario I presented for you were a game with extreme benefitial patterns. Go back and check.

And with variance you can have patterns that can be quite extreme which would fall within posabilities. It might depend on what we mean by extreme, but at least variance can produce patterns to some degree

I didnt say run bad, I said if you saw patterns. Yes, patterns can and will occur, but if you see it a lot and you also know its benefitial for the site that those patterns occur, you should be suspicious.

What you are basically saying is that as long something is mathemathically reasonable you should never be suspicous.

And its not because I "simply dont trust the site" that I think its rigged. When I started playing poker there were nowhere in my mind that it could be rigged. But when I saw the same types of patterns again and again on many sites I gradually changed my opinion. But I think I was quite stubborn at first. Probably because I didnt understand why they would fix the deck in the first place.

I read it but it doesnt disprove anything. It doesnt even give a good argument for "why not". You basically just shreds everyones post into pieces and start attacking it where you think its weakest.

If you are not paid and still do this so much and defend OLP so hard you have no life and no moral. Even if you are paid you dont have moral obviously.

Do you think its werid that people will think you are a shill when you come here so much and write like you do? It does makes sense that we think so, doesnt it?

Do you honestly believe he made that up?

Certainly indicates the story was made up if thats where your aiming. And he obviously doenst have any credability whatsoever, unlike you and your friends ITT.

Why are you even here when you dont contribute to anything?

Show me where I am being unfair if thats what you think. But you also have to read the scenario I first present to him that has the question following.

lol this is the dumbest crap for somebody to write. OK where is YOUR proof that they are not. Another thing why does everyone seem to think all poker sites are created equally when clearly they are not. Only site I 100% believe in is PS. And why the **** are you here. That's like me going to a finance website and arguing with people who have lots of experience in derivatives and I keep reinstating my opinion that I read somewhere else as I have no idea what I am talking about and arguing people who deal with the market on a weekly basis. And AROUET **** you you pathetic man. Get a ***** real job you pussy. Afraid to go work in the real world where you obviously do not belong. You are a ***** excuse for a man typing in a rigged thread for some change. Fkning loser bitch I will be back in two months to reinstate this fact when your stupid ass is still here.The guy is another shill 2+2 obviously lets on their site as it is beyond obvious that this bitch is a shill. Look at all posts by this douche bag makes it is sad,pathetic funny and annoying that he even exists in the world. If you got anything to say you ****ing **** sucker shoot me a P.M and we can fight for rolls Hu style. Do not respond here P.M and we can set it up you talk real big I will post money you fkng geek.

Awww Cakie. Are you still being bullied in the playground? Maybe if you tell your mommy she'll go talk to the principle and they'll tell the other boy to stop. Remember: just because you are frustrated at those who beat you up, doesn't mean you should go and try and beat other people up.

You'll understand better when you're older. I know its all confusing right now.

Easyonkemp,
If you are not paid and still do this so much and attack OLP with no evidence so hard you have no life and no moral. Even if you are paid you dont have moral obviously.

You see your lack of logic works both ways. You can't criticise someone spending time here "defending" for no reason when you are spending time here "attacking" for no reason.

I know you will not get that because it doesn't fit your pattern.

Promised myself not to post here again but this dude tilts me with his flawed logic

Easyonkemp, read this again. Forgot to mention that j9 idiot as part of this crowd. Its really better not to argue with these site promoters as, like you were talking about, they use intelligent sounding lies which is used to throw off newer people looking for the truth. Anybody with half a brain whos played for awhile knows the deal is manipulated and should stay away from it. Might as well leave it at that.

Just when I thought cake had reached the nadir of his puerile oafishness he comes through again to set a new record in asinine stupidity.

Still, like a lot of strutting, hormonal, 13 year olds at least he's good for a laugh.

I suppose he likes to come here and play the big man when he's feeling bad because his little sister beat him up again.

And for those new players that you are trying to protect because of the goodness of your heart, please point out what is wrong with my post above.

I see you are avoiding the issue once again.

How do you know the deal is manipulated? You must have some evidence for it, right? So what is it?

I don't twist what you are saying, I simply explain why what you are saying is completely illogical. You tell yourself that I have twisted everything in order to explain that feeling you get when you almost realise that what you have said makes no sense, rather than acknowledging and understanding my response.

You go back and check. OK, I'll do it for you:


In summary you asked about extreme patterns, I suggested that If I had seen extreme patterns I could explain what they were and analyse them, you then asked what would I think if it was "within possibilities" when analysed and I explained that if it was within possibilites it wouldn't be an extreme pattern. Simple.

So what are these "extreme patterns" that are "extremely suspiscious" that you see whilst playing which don't show up in the hand histories which contain all the information that you had whilst playing (except the timing)?

PS: The timing issue is something you lot should play with more often. Have a chat amongst yourselves and see what you can come up with

I genuinely don't understand what this post even means.
Hello Pot, my name is Kettle. I notice we're both black. Terribly sorry I didn't realize your posts required homework to understand them.

I will go ahead and apologize and correct what I said about leatherass. He was talking about 6max 200NL, not 400NL.

STOP. Read the above before continuing.

So you're not going to address what you belive is wrong in my post to EasyonIQ then.

It's a real surprise that instead of responding with some sort of explanation, you continue to post mindless drivel.

Well done, no point breaking a habit of a lifetime.

blatantlyrigged never puts forward anything of substance.

Did the alarm on youre computer indicating someone posting in the rigged thread wake you two shills up? Which sites do you goofs work for, or are you 2+2 employees?
Sure can understand you not liking what easyonkemp says. He speaks the truth about the scam that is online poker, where you site promoters just have to bash the truth when someone points out the obvious manipulation of the deal.

Your posts are always welcome - I find the absence of content quite soothing.

I would love to watch a respected statistician read this thread, just to see the expression on their face as they slog their way through thousands of posts of rigtard fail. This thread is beyond amazing.

yeh its like when i play online roulette, my numbers never come in! its definately rigged lol

Some of the posters actually believe that statistics itself is a conspiracy to cover up "the truth". A century ago, these people would have explained everything they couldn't understand (which is quite a lot) with magic, or fairies. Nowadays they have conspiracy theories.

Remember though that these are the unrelenting fish - the whales who are immune to education and reason, will never improve, and who will happily tilt off all their chips on a long shot to satisfy their expectation of being hard done by. And we should love them for that.