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Old 05-14-2009, 06:39 PM   #3326
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I mean you guys really want to turn this into an issue? Believe me if it wasn't for my own morals and personal integrity I'd be writing a post about how poker stars screwed me this that and the other. Because I don't see it that way.
I should of had my money in the bank account, that I had solely set up for online poker, available at the time of deposits. I went to the extent of setting up my work paychecks on direct deposit with that particular bank account to cover deposits and such. I agree with that.
OK, maybe it was just stupid and irresponsible rather than dishonest, so don't get so bent out of shape about it. When you became combative (well before that) you encouraged people to use whatever ammunition they had. You should let that one drop, other people have made banking mistakes before. And you need to pay PS what you owe them, or talk to them and settle it, even if you don't play there.

Back to the topic....You'll get reasonable discussion from most people in this thread (except maybe superfish) if you use reasonable arguments that aren't based on fallacies and anecdotal bad beat stories, and feelings and patterns and all the other stuff. If you had any actual evidence, you'd be amazed at the cooperation you would find here to investigate it. Your position seems to be that more regulation is needed, specifically by the U.S. government, to catch and stop dishonest poker sites. And you have shown a bias towards believing sites are dishonest. You haven't been objective although you have tried to soften your claims sometimes with phrases like "I can't prove anything but...". Give a more reasoned argument and you'll get a more reasoned response, if it isn't too late for you to recover.
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:55 PM   #3327
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I got AA 2 times in a row, and at the same time i got AA on another table and lost all 3 of them. :-(. But i still finished my 12 sng session with possitive results.
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Old 05-15-2009, 04:29 AM   #3328
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Dammit, banks should be regulated .... oh wait...
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Old 05-15-2009, 04:37 AM   #3329
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Came in 5th in the HU PLO FTOPS event today, came in 2nd last season.

****'s rigged so that I can't get first, obv.
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Old 05-15-2009, 07:08 AM   #3330
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QPW Im still waiting for you to answer the question.

Do you play Online Poker? If so then where/limits etc?

If your not a poker player then why do you troll this forum?

Why have you avoided the question?

Your losing any credibility you ever had calling myself and others shills?

What do you do for a living?

Im gonna keep asking this everytime I visit this thread until you answer?

The longer you delay your answer the more it makes you look like a shill planted here to try and protect a corrupt billion dollar business that is OP.
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Old 05-15-2009, 07:32 AM   #3331
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Came in 5th in the HU PLO FTOPS event today, came in 2nd last season.

****'s rigged so that I can't get first, obv.
Quite clearly the case.

They obviously realised you were far and away the best player and rigged the RNG to give lesser players a chance.

I don't know how they get away with it.

We should have a thread here to discuss such antics by the sites.
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Old 05-15-2009, 08:37 AM   #3332
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QPW Im still waiting for you to answer the question.

Do you play Online Poker? If so then where/limits etc?

If your not a poker player then why do you troll this forum?

Why have you avoided the question?

Your losing any credibility you ever had calling myself and others shills?

What do you do for a living?

Im gonna keep asking this everytime I visit this thread until you answer?

The longer you delay your answer the more it makes you look like a shill planted here to try and protect a corrupt billion dollar business that is OP.
Not to distract you from your obsession with qpw, but perhaps you can answer this question since you are a hard core riggedologist who plays quite a bit.

Specifically what information would you need to see to assure you that the deal from the sites are fair. Note, you would not have to do any of the data gathering yourself, as this is more of a checklist of what it takes to change your thoughts on rigged or not.

Please be very specific. Requests like "show the game is always fair" will just waste time and generate a "ok, how do we do that to make you happy" reply.

Let's avoid that type of circular discussion, just list out in nice point form the data you need to see to make you happy that no mystical forces are at work at the online poker sites.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:09 AM   #3333
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QPW Im still waiting for you to answer the question.
You are going to have a very long wait.

I have no intention of discussing my poker arrangements with anyone unless I feel a need to do so.

I'm certainly not interested in discussing them with a shill for RealDeal.
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Old 05-15-2009, 12:06 PM   #3334
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I should of had my money in the bank account, that I had solely set up for online poker, available at the time of deposits. I went to the extent of setting up my work paychecks on direct deposit with that particular bank account to cover deposits and such.
seriously, you shouldn't have to worry about sending your work paychecks to a separate account for depositing on a regular basis.
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If your not a poker player then why do you troll this forum?
Sooper - if you think online poker is rigged, why do you play it? And if you're NOT playing it anymore, why do you troll the Internet Poker Forum?
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you look like a shill planted here to try and protect a corrupt billion dollar business that is OP.
for future reference, "OP" (in forum-speak) means "Original Post" or "Original Poster." I know they're the same letters as "Online Poker" but I think most folks read it as the former rather than the latter.
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Old 05-15-2009, 02:27 PM   #3335
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Your losing any credibility you ever had calling myself and others shills?

Im gonna keep asking this everytime I visit this thread until you answer?
1) No
2) Yes
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Old 05-15-2009, 03:35 PM   #3336
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seriously, you shouldn't have to worry about sending your work paychecks to a separate account for depositing on a regular basis.

Sooper - if you think online poker is rigged, why do you play it? And if you're NOT playing it anymore, why do you troll the Internet Poker Forum?

for future reference, "OP" (in forum-speak) means "Original Post" or "Original Poster." I know they're the same letters as "Online Poker" but I think most folks read it as the former rather than the latter.
I was a poker junkie what can I say...Believe me If I could do it all over again things would of been handled differently on my end. I shoulda stuck to the playstation3....however I can tell you no matter what game you play(on playstation) and your number 1 in the world, there is no gold at the end of that rainbow....So I'll stick to OP...

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Old 05-15-2009, 03:41 PM   #3337
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You are going to have a very long wait.

I have no intention of discussing my poker arrangements with anyone unless I feel a need to do so.

I'm certainly not interested in discussing them with a shill for RealDeal.
Ok Mods. I have a serious problem with this statement right here. Wasn't Steve Meares banned from this site for being a "shill." A very simple question was asked to verify his credibility and/or stance on OP. So if he's a shill, other then differences of opinions, what makes him different from Steve meares? Believe me, when I found out he was a shill, I was very disapointed that his arguements were "fake" and only to serve his own business goals. Banishment was highly praised of him whether we agreed or not. QPW do you still feel the need to not answer the question? I mean even if a Mod. can vouch for you that'd be great....This is directed toward QPW, and only QPW.
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Old 05-15-2009, 03:47 PM   #3338
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You are going to have a very long wait.

I have no intention of discussing my poker arrangements with anyone unless I feel a need to do so.

I'm certainly not interested in discussing them with a shill for RealDeal.
But you feel the need to talk about other people's playing arrangements? Why is that? I'm sensing your character and integrity is "rigged."
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Old 05-15-2009, 03:58 PM   #3339
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Ok Mods. I have a serious problem with this statement right here. Wasn't Steve Meares banned from this site for being a "shill."
I don't think that had anything to do with it, and he probably wasn't shilling. IIRC Matt Sklansky banned meares and deleted all of his posts, basically for being a douchebag and going off the deep end, making wild accusations that the 2+2 mods had infected his computer with a virus and other assorted delusions, PM'ing a bunch of mods and admins, and just basically going crazy. And that was after his crossposting of enormous diatribes in multiple threads was tolerated for weeks. He wasn't helped any by another notorious multi-ban'er named GrinderR (among other aliases) who he took up with. It was fun times...
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I'm sensing your character and integrity is "rigged."
you are making it really hard to stfu. did you write any bad checks today

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Old 05-15-2009, 06:03 PM   #3341
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Re: tk1133: "Are you a shill?"

Ok Mods. I have a serious problem with this poster right here. Wasn't Steve Meares banned from this site for being a "shill." A very simple question was asked to verify his credibility and/or stance on OLP. So if he's a shill, other then differences of opinions, what makes him different from Steve meares? Believe me, when I found out he was a shill, I was very disapointed that his arguements were "fake" and only to serve his own business goals. Banishment was highly praised of him whether we agreed or not. tk1133 do you still feel the need to not answer the question? I mean even if a Mod. can vouch for you that'd be great....This is directed toward tk1133, and only tk1133.
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But you feel the need to talk about other people's playing arrangements? Why is that? I'm sensing your character and integrity is "rigged."
Point to one single post where I have questioned (or even mentioned) someone else's playing arrangements.

tk1133, you are a lying scumbag.

You are also a thieving scumbag.

You are also one of the most brain numbingly stupid people it has ever been my misfortune to encounter.

You idiocy is, apparently, almost boundless.

Also, your spelling and grammar are appalling and I have a very strong suspicion that you rarely wash and smell pretty disgusting.

Other than the points mentioned above I am sure you are a fine fellow and if you could address said points I'm sure we could be great friends.
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QPW Im still waiting for you to answer the question.

Do you play Online Poker? If so then where/limits etc?

If your not a poker player then why do you troll this forum?

Why have you avoided the question?

Your losing any credibility you ever had calling myself and others shills?

What do you do for a living?

Im gonna keep asking this everytime I visit this thread until you answer?

The longer you delay your answer the more it makes you look like a shill planted here to try and protect a corrupt billion dollar business that is OP.
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Old 05-15-2009, 07:47 PM   #3344
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Sooper...now you are just spamming.
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Old 05-15-2009, 08:07 PM   #3345
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QPW Im still waiting for you to answer the question.

Do you play Online Poker? If so then where/limits etc?

If your not a poker player then why do you troll this forum?

Why have you avoided the question?

Your losing any credibility you ever had calling myself and others shills?

What do you do for a living?

Im gonna keep asking this everytime I visit this thread until you answer?

The longer you delay your answer the more it makes you look like a shill planted here to try and protect a corrupt billion dollar business that is OP.
Not to distract you from your obsession with qpw, but perhaps you can answer this question since you are a hard core riggedologist who plays quite a bit.

Specifically what information would you need to see to assure you that the deal from the sites are fair. Note, you would not have to do any of the data gathering yourself, as this is more of a checklist of what it takes to change your thoughts on rigged or not.

Please be very specific. Requests like "show the game is always fair" will just waste time and generate a "ok, how do we do that to make you happy" reply.

Let's avoid that type of circular discussion, just list out in nice point form the data you need to see to make you happy that no mystical forces are at work at the online poker sites.


Whoa, deja vu


Don't worry Scooper, I never really expected you to directly answer this. That would not be the riggedologist way.
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Not to distract you from your obsession with qpw, but perhaps you can answer this question since you are a hard core riggedologist who plays quite a bit.

Specifically what information would you need to see to assure you that the deal from the sites are fair. Note, you would not have to do any of the data gathering yourself, as this is more of a checklist of what it takes to change your thoughts on rigged or not.

Please be very specific. Requests like "show the game is always fair" will just waste time and generate a "ok, how do we do that to make you happy" reply.

Let's avoid that type of circular discussion, just list out in nice point form the data you need to see to make you happy that no mystical forces are at work at the online poker sites.


Whoa, deja vu


Don't worry Scooper, I never really expected you to directly answer this. That would not be the riggedologist way.
One piece of the puzzle would be whether or not people are paid to shill in this forum.

Stop answering for qpw Monteroy.
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One piece of the puzzle would be whether or not people are paid to shill in this forum.

Stop answering for qpw Monteroy.

Let's assume for now that evil multi billion dollar companies are not actively seeking out qpw and others here to be their hidden spokesperson, as massive a stretch of logic as that seems...

Yes I realize that a lot of you seem to get pleasure out of calling each other shills, whether seriously or sarcastically. If it makes you happy we can both agree that I am a "shill" in whatever way you wish to imagine to move along the process which of course moves forward if and when you decide to directly answer my questions from above.

Again, do not worry, as there is no expectation you will actually ever directly answer the questions (not the riggedologist way), but if we can agree to play along with and dismiss your various unrelated distraction creating counter points as quickly as possible, perhaps you may eventually relent and give answering a try, perhaps out of frustration.
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Old 05-15-2009, 09:13 PM   #3348
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QPW, This is a forum. I understand that if I had a 3rd party spell check, I would be appreciated and found more credible. However since I don't feel insecure about my spelling and grammatical errors, I don't use use one. I could easily proof read, edit spell check then make sure I have my sentencs structured properly. My mistake. With that aside, you started the personal attacks and quite frankly, I found your conduct on this site to be rude and "appalling" from day one of ever reading this site. It doesn't matter what people are saying or what they perceive, you don't treat good people like they're dirt and they're worthless.

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QPW, This is a forum. I understand, that I would be appreciated more if I had a third party spell check and would appear more credible. However since I don't feel insecure about my spelling and grammatical errors I don't use use one. I could easily proof read, edit spell check then make sure I have my sentencs structured properly. That aside, you started the personal attacks and quite frankly, I found your conduct on this site to be rude and "appalling" from day one of ever reading this site. It doesn't matter what people are saying or what they perceive, you don't treat good people like they're dirt and they're worthless.
I'm pretty sure Firefox has an in-built spell checker that checks as you type. And if you're using IE, well, you're ******ed.

It's not about being insecure, it's about being really annoying to other people who are trying to read and interpret your posts.

I, for one, think that people who don't make an effort to make posts that are grammatically correct should get warnings/bans.
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QPW, This is a forum. I understand, that I would be appreciated more if I had a third party spell check and would appear more credible.
This isn't a criticism and you can call it a brag if you like, but I've rarely used a spellchecker in my life in any documents, and never on a web site. I just happened to learn how to read and write in my younger years. When I want to use a word that I'm not positive how to spell, I usually just type "define: word" in my handy google box to be sure. Then if my comments are attacked at least I look literate. I also read over it before clicking on submit (or on send in email). It isn't foolproof, but you might try it.

To DMoogle's comment: there are spellcheckers available for IE as well.
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