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08-29-2010 , 10:40 AM
There are essentially two responses.

First, there is the “mindless masses” way, also known as “the lamb to the slaughter.” Here’s an example of this way of thinking in another area: “Hey lady, why do you keep going back to the guy when he keeps beating the **** out of you . . . Because I love him . . . wah, wah, wah.”

Exhibit A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r89tSAxAu0c

I don’t think even a good 12-step program could help this oblivious bio-automaton.

There is, however, a better way. There are plenty of good role model posts on the web for the witless, poker playing bio-autos to emulate, but I thought this one had a nice ring to it:

TruthSerum writes: “Well, enough is enough. I'm deleting Tiltware. Not worth it. When it gets to the point you can predict the outcome before it happens every time in every situation, gets pretty meaningless. Tiltware is like a thief stealing your money. I just wish one of these thieving owners were in my face so I could punch them in the nose. I'd open hand slap any of these btches if they were in my face. Tiltware = permanently deleted . . . They use events like FTSOP and crap to get people playing, but its just a scam. Employees and sponsors win, and other people just end up wasting money. This scam is just a joke. It is seriously permanently deleted!”

Yep, I’d say that’s a good time to leave a poker room: when you develop an uncanny ability to predict river cards. No, you’re not psychic. It’s just time to go.
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08-29-2010 , 10:48 AM
what happens in your other 101 posts
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08-29-2010 , 11:09 AM
All of his posts talk about the ability to predict cards or other crazy events that he refuses to actually prove happen or even that they can happen. Extreme crazy conspiracy stuff basically without the charm of Lizard People.

He also whines a lot.

His buddy posts Omaha freeroll bad beats as well, so he runs with a solid crew.
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08-29-2010 , 11:19 AM
lol WHAT
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08-29-2010 , 11:24 AM
Aaahhhh, yes, I know how this one ends. Cat on the river.
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08-29-2010 , 11:44 AM
If you can predict every card you should be able to crush everyone online. Why arent you doing this?
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08-29-2010 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Eto Demerzel
If you can predict every card you should be able to crush everyone online. Why arent you doing this?
lol
that is not true
when everything goes against you.
you can predict every cards and still lose. you just lose less.
your skill in making fun of rigtard is about couple hundred years behind wiki.
so more reading and less talking.
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08-29-2010 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordias
When it gets to the point you can predict the outcome before it happens every time in every situation, gets pretty meaningless. ...

Yep, I’d say that’s a good time to leave a poker room: when you develop an uncanny ability to predict river cards. No, you’re not psychic. It’s just time to go.
You people are just so mind numbingly dumb. How do you expect people to believe a word you say when, with a smug know-it-all tone, you can write and quote stuff like this without realising how stupid it is.
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08-29-2010 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordias
There is, however, a better way. There are plenty of good role model posts on the web for the witless, poker playing bio-autos to emulate, but I thought this one had a nice ring to it:

TruthSerum writes: “Well, enough is enough. I'm deleting Tiltware. Not worth it. When it gets to the point you can predict the outcome before it happens every time in every situation, you have two options: (1) Go onto 2+2 and whine like a little girl, (2) Use your amazing skill to get rich.
FYP
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08-29-2010 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordias
Yep, I’d say that’s a good time to leave a poker room: when you develop an uncanny ability to predict river cards. No, you’re not psychic. It’s just time to go.
If you could do that you would, over the course of time, be unbeatable.
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08-29-2010 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
1) It's mildly amusing
2) It's oddly more polite than pretending the opposite is true
What's mildly amusing is someone who wastes as much time as you do posting in a ridiculous no-win internet thread saying that someone else has led a life with little meaning. I'm betting the person you're talking about was engaged in things a little more exciting and productive when he was your age. Talk about wasted youth (and yes, I include myself in that category too).
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08-29-2010 , 02:33 PM
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What's mildly amusing is someone who wastes as much time as you do posting in a ridiculous no-win internet thread saying that someone else has led a life with little meaning. I'm betting the person you're talking about was engaged in things a little more exciting and productive when he was your age. Talk about wasted youth (and yes, I include myself in that category too).
I post in between curing people of cancer and rescuing puppies from house fires.

Every human wastes time now and then on trivial things, that's part of life in general, and that has nothing to do with whether someone has led a mundane life.

That guy pretty much posted a long blog of his mundane life, which is a better indication that a person has led a mundane life.

If you are interested in the exciting things he may have done send him a private message and become his internet buddy and share with the world the results. You might consider that a meaningful adventure.

All the best.
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08-29-2010 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordias
Yep, I’d say that’s a good time to leave a poker room: when you develop an uncanny ability to predict river cards. No, you’re not psychic. It’s just time to go.
Grunch: You would leave a site where you could predict the river card? I wouldn't....
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08-29-2010 , 05:43 PM
Blah blah blah bad beat blah blah blah

Hand History

Blah blah blah blah warnings don't work on me so now I got an infraction

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08-29-2010 , 06:08 PM
Sorry if my advice cost you 3 cents or whatever the cash prize you missed out on that freeroll.

Also, ignore the fact that all of your previous silly hand postings have been deleted as this one and all your future ones likely will be until you get banned.

At that time you can whine on a darts forum like I suggested before.

Grow up already or at least whine about something that matters if you have to be a perma whiner.

All the best.


Edit: removed my offer to him for him to not post again since it seems he will be banned soon anyway.

Last edited by Monteroy; 08-29-2010 at 06:22 PM.
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08-29-2010 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by signuptoday
lol
that is not true
when everything goes against you.
you can predict every cards and still lose. you just lose less.
your skill in making fun of rigtard is about couple hundred years behind wiki.
so more reading and less talking.
If you lose less, that must mean you make more. That is if your a winning player..
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08-29-2010 , 08:21 PM
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Your posts generally fit two categories

1) Hatred toward other people (non Americans and Native Americans)

2) Posting sex acts between two men

Sometimes you squeeze in both. You have simple yet conflicting base emotions working for you.

Please feel free to post some examples of my hatred toward American Indians to back you claims. Posting about how I don't like how the NGC regulates poker doesn't count as much as you want it to.

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You and other riggies will find the exact same beats on a US site like any other one. You may have a weird internal conflict for a while due to being a xenophobic racist and your past posts of blind trust that the US government fixes and regulates everything perfectly (when no regulation would have anything to do with the actual deal), but in the end you will still be the same player with the same micro losing results that you refuse to share.
Ahh more US hate rhetoric. Again if you please post anything from me to support your claims that I am a racist. I have asked you many times and you simply dodge the question and further try to exploit the notion that if you don't feel the KGC is a good agency to license poker you hate them racially. It's fitting seeing you seem to hate the US and it's not a surprise. If I live where you did I would hate it too.

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US regulation will just open the door for more riggies - those that specifically blame the US government for all sorts of stuff randomly, so as I said before it will actually be entertaining watching riggies like you and the new crop sharing a belief system
No, actually it will usher in a much better form of online poker with many more safeguards and regulation. I won't be saying it's rigged but once again go right ahead with your fantasies. They are entertaining.
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08-29-2010 , 08:33 PM
ydward might be the first ever to have made 200 posts and has a post count of 12 now. Maybe it will continue in that direction.
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08-29-2010 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker
Please feel free to post some examples of my hatred toward American Indians to back you claims. Posting about how I don't like how the NGC regulates poker doesn't count as much as you want it to.
Already did that earlier in this thread (when I posted links to that thread in the stats forum earlier), and if people really want to read your angry bigotry they can search your posts. You spew it all the time, and just because you are comfortable with your hatred and have rationalized in your mind that it is not bigotry does not excuse you from what you are - a mundane bigot and xenophobe.

Everyone replies to you in a similar manner and even riggies avoid you.

You still can't even quote people properly, it's like you are incapable of change or learning. Pathetic, but not surprising.



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Ahh more US hate rhetoric. Again if you please post anything from me to support your claims that I am a racist. I have asked you many times and you simply dodge the question and further try to exploit the notion that if you don't feel the KGC is a good agency to license poker you hate them racially. It's fitting seeing you seem to hate the US and it's not a surprise. If I live where you did I would hate it too.
You think US regulation will fix rigged poker because you can't win at Full Tilt. US regulation will not help you with that nor will it change the games at all, which is why riggies will remain riggies, and they will be joined by a new crop of riggies that hates the US government.

Use both of your brain cells for a change and understand that does not mean I support riggies who think the US government is behind rigged poker or 9/11 or Lizard People. They are just as nuts as the current crop of riggies, but they come from the opposite angle on the US government which is sort of entertaining.





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No, actually it will usher in a much better form of online poker with many more safeguards and regulation. I won't be saying it's rigged but once again go right ahead with your fantasies. They are entertaining.
The riggie population will grow when the US government gets involved. If you specifically avoid the temptation to say it is rigged that will be simply due to pride since you have said over and over it will magically fix the rig, so even when you continue to lose in whatever meaningless games you play, you may stay quiet for that reason alone, reducing the vocal riggie population by 1 due to the corner you painted yourself in.


1 in 4 Americans think the US government flew planes (or missles) into buildings. A bunch still think the government was behind killing a president. A large number think the government was behind the financial crises as a means of control. Many think Obama was not born in the US and many think he is a Muslim.

All of that and yet you believe that no Americans will think the US government will be blamed for helping rig the deal when American riggies get bad beat in their freerolls after it is regulated.

Even a bigot shouldn't be this blind.
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08-29-2010 , 09:11 PM
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Already did that earlier in this thread (when I posted links to that thread in the stats forum earlier), and if people really want to read your angry bigotry they can search your posts. You spew it all the time, and just because you are comfortable with your hatred and have rationalized in your mind that it is not bigotry does not excuse you from what you are - a mundane bigot and xenophobe.

Everyone replies to you in a similar manner and even riggies avoid you.

You still can't even quote people properly, it's like you are incapable of change or learning. Pathetic, but not surprising.
Yep as I thought, you dodged it yet again. I don't feel the KGC should make all that money simply because they are being used for their land and protection against prosecution while having absolutely no experience in any sort of gaming. I guess that makes me a bigot huh? Well it's coming to pass and once the bill is signed they will lose all that money. Guess that makes the US congress racists too huh?

Oh the reason I quote myself is this sites forum code is too ancient. You can't quote certain parts of the post.

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1 in 4 Americans think the US government flew planes (or missles) into buildings. A bunch still think the government was behind killing a president. A large number think the government was behind the financial crises as a means of control. Many think Obama was not born in the US and many think he is a Muslim.
Again these examples have as much to do with this discussion as hair color does with being left handed. Yet you still throw it out as a way to try to legitamize your hatred toward the US. By the way a quarter of republicans doesn't really make up "many" your just throwing out stupid birther crap. Give it a rest. Obama is going to lose congress in two months and his election in two years not because of the people who think he isn't a US citizen but because he is a poor president.
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08-29-2010 , 09:48 PM
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Yep as I thought, you dodged it yet again. I don't feel the KGC should make all that money simply because they are being used for their land and protection against prosecution while having absolutely no experience in any sort of gaming. I guess that makes me a bigot huh? Well it's coming to pass and once the bill is signed they will lose all that money. Guess that makes the US congress racists too huh?

Oh the reason I quote myself is this sites forum code is too ancient. You can't quote certain parts of the post.
You are without any question or doubt a xenophobic bigot and everyone who reads your posts can see that for themselves. No need to dodge anything, you spew hatred all the time non stop.



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Again these examples have as much to do with this discussion as hair color does with being left handed. Yet you still throw it out as a way to try to legitamize your hatred toward the US. By the way a quarter of republicans doesn't really make up "many" your just throwing out stupid birther crap. Give it a rest. Obama is going to lose congress in two months and his election in two years not because of the people who think he isn't a US citizen but because he is a poor president.
Seriously dude, you are so wrapped up in your warped thinking that somehow you translate what I say into a general hatred of the US, because you really really want me to hate the US for some reason, which I certainly do not.

The fact that 25% of Americans think their government was behind 9/11 does not mean I hate America, it means that a good amount of people have crazy beliefs, that's it.

America hardly has the monopoly on crazy people, they are everywhere, but there are definitely a healthy chunk who believe their own government is evil, whether they are extreme leftist hippies or gun toting extreme conservatives. Among those (hippies and malitia folk) there will be poker players, and some of them will be riggies and you know who they will blame? The government.

Hence the riggie population will grow once it is regulated. Common sense, and not based on a hatred of America, rather based on understanding how people think.

Do I think American regulation is bad? Hardly. I look forward to this industry becoming fully regulated, but I am smart enough to realize that in terms of the actual games (rigged or not) it will have no effect because the regulation will have nothing to do with the RnGs. The games are fair and they will be fair after regulation. Riggies will still whine about bad beats. Some new ones will blame the government.


A good percentage of people think the moon landing was fake (if that is somehow anti-republican in your warped little mind then replace it with another standard conspiracy theory). Given that, a good amount of Americans will think the government is behind the rig once they start seeing patterns.


You have been a good lap dog, but time to cut you off so have your final weird say then go back to your proper behavior of popping in here once in a while and obsessing about my tournament buy in levels and being angry at non Americans. Talking to you is actually quite boring, so time to end that for now.

Have a nice day
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08-29-2010 , 09:57 PM
n/m not even funny...
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08-29-2010 , 10:02 PM
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Yep as I thought, you dodged it yet again. I don't feel the KGC should make all that money simply because they are being used for their land and protection against prosecution while having absolutely no experience in any sort of gaming.
Just curious, which big poker sites that allows US players, besides Cereus (which doesn't really count), has anything to do with the KGC? You seem to bring up this up a lot, when the games played by like 95% of US players have nothing to do with KGC. That outfit hosts and licenses a bunch of nobody sites, plus Cereus.
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08-29-2010 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ydward
Blah blah blah bad beat blah blah blah

Hand History

Blah blah blah blah warnings don't work on me so now I got an infraction
lol thank you Bobo, that was long overdue
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08-30-2010 , 12:03 AM
When two players go all in preflop in tournament play (Sit & Go or MTT) there is no way the best starting hand wins the percentage its supposed to.
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