That's very magnanimous of you.

Anyway, what about you posting the supposed confirmation of the shuffle alteration that you got from stars support ?

So, let me get this right. You are one of the big stacks, and you choose to get it AIPF with A6 vs a guy who covers you ?

You must be really bad to be losing so much on 888. This is the NJ site right?

I had short stack and went all-in against this guy. I don't blame him for calling really but wow there is no hand I can win on 888. If I get into the money then I'll take a terrible beat right away. Its just all the time the same thing. My hands should not be losing that often and especially after the turn so often.

I know how to play poker very well. I have been successful on every site I've been to, other than 888. I have had success in their 10k tourneys. I've done well on there before but now I just see bull**** after bull****.

Either that or its rigged... If you seen all the BS I've seen then you'd know it's rigged. The river shouldnt determine the hand all the freakin time. And there is so much BS on that site.

The site is just awful in general it is disgusting. The software is ridiculous.

they vanished like a fart in the wind after black friday; but I hear laak & e$fandiari are trying to get something going again for the airwaves. I understand they used to have a show some years ago which I've never seen, but those two have a great repoire together judging by their antics back on the PAD & HSP days.

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perhaps you're not making optimal betting choices given particular scenarios. like say, just as an example, betting with thin value against a station. try to observe the flow and dynamics of the game in tourneys. attempt to figure out what your opponents are trying to do given their stack sizes. work on your hand reading. put your opponent on a range of hands and work off of that information after each street while asking yourself the following 2 questions when you bet:

will he call with worse hands?...(value bet).

will he fold with better hands?...(bluff).

just my 2 cents, and i'm wayyy far from being a pro, but I hate seeing someone as frustrated as you seem to be. good luck.

Dude, word it whichever way you want to keep yourself happy.

I'm looking at a guy that believes that an on line poker site has decided that he should lose and someone else should win. You are talking about tournies so the site doesn't care who wins, they've taken their rake and now it's about who wins the prize pool. You think evil lord of 888 or wherever you play has declared that shall not be you. To me, that's paranoid but you wrap it up how you want.

If you could answer why they've specifically chosen you to lose, that would at least shed some light on this evil vendetta that is being directed at you.

Nah it's obvious that 888 has to protect themselves because FullDeck and the likes would clean out the player pool in no time if it wasn't rigged.

Look how elaborated his argumentation is, you just can't.. wait.. nevermind.

You are out to lunch . If you read previous posts made by myself then you would know that I have often said the rig is directed at no one person in particular , it is an equalization program for maximum rake and to keep weaker players in the game longer to accomplish that...

Rake is paid in advance in tournaments, not based on pot sizes of hands within the tournaments, so there is no way for the rake to be equalized in that sense. No rake on rebuys as well if that is the angle you are pitching (as some riggies have in the past), and many riggies whine about freerolls and play money where no rake exists.

You made the right choice playing play money, since you have no chance being a long term consistent winner at real money games. Try playing Zynga Poker and seeing if your beliefs work there as well, and never play another game of real money poker in your life. At least when you believe play money is rigged it will not cost you anything due to your limited skill.

All the best.

P.S.



Zynga is Rigged riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...igged-1163239/

Stars Rebuy Riggie (even though no rake is charged on rebuys):

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=63392
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=63395

So what do you think is the difference between you and a successful poker player?

Let's just assume your equalrigsation thing exists. Despite that, >99% of professional poker players make their money by spotting and exploiting weaker opponents and trying to play unexploitable (aka breakeven) against better opponents.

How does the rig prevent especially you from doing the same? Or in other words, how is it possible for some people to make serious money under the same circumstances? Do you really think it's just a coincidence that the harder one works at their game, the better they do?

By "working hard" I mean analyzing their opponents' play and improving their own play, not studying the "program". Coincidentally, people focussing on this don't even notice an "anamolly in the program", let alone are affected by it.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...014-a-1400850/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/se...rchid=37009440

B-b-b-b-b-but that's in the United States, Freddie says that's



Here's Freddie grasping the fact that many of us don't redeposit and the implication this tidbit of data has for his "theory".

If you don't redeposit then you are likely not playing real poker. You are a child and don't understand the business world . It is only profit driven and since this business is ran by third world style , enterprises , you will redeposit or not play.... That is the online poker world sonny.....You are a fake and a redepositing fool...

A ton of hard core pros did a lot of deposits/withdrawals when Skrill was running their crazy point promo for deposits and it had no impact on play results. Those "redeposits" actually hurt Stars as their processing fees soared and they have since opted out of those promotions from Skrill.

Some of those "redepositing fools" made thousands just on those promos (and there were several threads about that at the time), while still grinding and earning a living at the tables in addition to that, but perhaps they operate in a different real world than you, one where rake is paid for tournaments in advance for instance.

You likely have a lot more experience at play money than they do for what it is worth, and if you post a detailed theory about how Stars does things to maximize/equalize/jazzercise play money rake I doubt many would have the data nor the experience to argue with you, so perhaps fill that riggie niche.

All the best.

What does this even mean? Winning players aren't playing real poker??

Shockingly, more xenophobia from Freddie.

Sorry Bobo , I was just trying to get a rise from the immature children with their silly picture posts. I know guys like yourself are real and winning but some child like punks like bodhismo are fake and never ran + ev in their lives....

As if it needed more clarification, this post shows that you have absolutely no idea what the terms you throw around even mean.

A few questions to help flesh out your theory:

Do the feet equalize each other out or do they arch in differing directions? How many piggies are involved from the feet as well? Do these piggies talk (or oink) to each other and to the other family of piggies? How can we be sure each of them toe the line?

How can we be sure the various feet have proper support? More specifically, if the feet do not know what each other is doing, how are support staff aware of it in the first place (since none will deny their rig is afoot)

Are US based sites compromised as well, like the ones in New Jersey, or are they based on a different foothold?

I want to be sure your theory has a leg to stand on, so hopefully your answers will help in that regard, and it will be a step in the right direction.

All the best.

What you see are people asking riggies to provide some kind of evidence for the claims they make.

Which reminds me, I asked you to post the evidence from stars support that you claim to have. You haven't done it. Why not ?

Stop being such a heel, I am sure he meant to post his data but the post he made about that simply got off on the wrong foot.

With time he will provide all of his data and theory from head to toe, and I am sure once he does no shill will want to touch it with a ten foot pole, and at that time the shoe will be squarely on the other foot.

Let's all stop stepping on the riggie's toes, since I am sure he puts his paranoia on one leg at a time just like all the other riggies.

Paid shills , would be shills , geeks that want to be shills the poker sites love them . Put just enough bullcrap to counter what some of us see as obvious and wrong . The sites have been bilking the public for years and now not only feel entitled but spend most of their time and resources to trick as many as possible . The only answer is to play with play money and beat them at their own game . If you deposit they will own your money .. Its RIGGED folks thats a fact..

Mabye it is not just No Limit Holdem.

Pretty amazing price for me to get scooped on both of these Omaha/8 flops.

This is just a small picture of my Sunday. It is hard to not want to throw the laptop off the balcony.



PokerStars Hand #109295172584: Tournament #836106458, $200+$15 USD Omaha Hi/Lo Limit - Level III (50/100) - 2013/12/29 17:46:48 ET
Table '836106458 2' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Gunslinger3 (3617 in chips)
Seat 2: korjae (3860 in chips)
Seat 3: osmark (3632 in chips)
Seat 4: damsco0 (3700 in chips)
Seat 5: blony_tair (4695 in chips)
Seat 6: tutista (3540 in chips)
Seat 8: Mr Fox69 (4131 in chips)
Seat 9: NasseNøffff (4387 in chips)
tutista: posts small blind 25
Mr Fox69: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Gunslinger3 [Qs Ac 2s As]
NasseNøffff: folds
Gunslinger3: raises 50 to 100
korjae: folds
osmark: folds
damsco0: folds
blony_tair: raises 50 to 150
tutista: folds
Mr Fox69: folds
Gunslinger3: raises 50 to 200
Betting is capped
blony_tair: calls 50
*** FLOP *** [Kc 5s Ts]
Gunslinger3: bets 50
blony_tair: calls 50
*** TURN *** [Kc 5s Ts] [3c]
Gunslinger3: bets 100
blony_tair: calls 100
*** RIVER *** [Kc 5s Ts 3c] [3d]
Gunslinger3: bets 100
blony_tair: raises 100 to 200
Gunslinger3: calls 100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
blony_tair: shows [Ah Qh 3s 7s] (HI: three of a kind, Threes)
Gunslinger3: mucks hand
blony_tair collected 1175 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1175 | Rake 0
Board [Kc 5s Ts 3c 3d]
Seat 1: Gunslinger3 mucked [Qs Ac 2s As]
Seat 2: korjae folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: osmark folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: damsco0 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: blony_tair (button) showed [Ah Qh 3s 7s] and won (1175) with HI: three of a kind, Threes
Seat 6: tutista (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Mr Fox69 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: NasseNøffff folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Hand #109295230102: Tournament #836106458, $200+$15 USD Omaha Hi/Lo Limit - Level III (50/100) - 2013/12/29 17:47:47 ET
Table '836106458 2' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Gunslinger3 (3067 in chips)
Seat 2: korjae (3860 in chips)
Seat 3: osmark (3632 in chips)
Seat 4: damsco0 (3700 in chips)
Seat 5: blony_tair (5320 in chips)
Seat 6: tutista (3515 in chips)
Seat 8: Mr Fox69 (4081 in chips)
Seat 9: NasseNøffff (4387 in chips)
Mr Fox69: posts small blind 25
NasseNøffff: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Gunslinger3 [5d 8h Ac As]
Gunslinger3: raises 50 to 100
korjae: folds
osmark: folds
damsco0: folds
blony_tair: calls 100
tutista: folds
Mr Fox69: folds
NasseNøffff: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ah 2s 9h]
Gunslinger3: bets 50
blony_tair: calls 50
*** TURN *** [Ah 2s 9h] [Qc]
Gunslinger3: bets 100
blony_tair: calls 100
*** RIVER *** [Ah 2s 9h Qc] [Tc]
Gunslinger3: bets 100
blony_tair: raises 100 to 200
Gunslinger3: calls 100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
blony_tair: shows [Td Qd Kc Jh] (HI: a straight, Ten to Ace)
Gunslinger3: mucks hand
blony_tair collected 975 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 975 | Rake 0
Board [Ah 2s 9h Qc Tc]
Seat 1: Gunslinger3 mucked [5d 8h Ac As]
Seat 2: korjae folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: osmark folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: damsco0 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: blony_tair showed [Td Qd Kc Jh] and won (975) with HI: a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 6: tutista (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Mr Fox69 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: NasseNøffff (big blind) folded before Flop

What a funny coincidence that you always miss my posts, FreddieRivers.

The program will never change , only the players can speak with their money . Meaning keep it in your own hands as the sites are lined up to accept it. This industry needs to be totally revamped and regulated and any one found misleading the players by dealing anything other than random prosecuted to the full extent of the law.Just to clarify the belief factor , I have gambled live poker, live horse racing , live slots and never found occasion to see or feel any rigging whatsoever . The online gambling industry is unregulated by any trustworthy source and should be closed down until such time a government agency from a normal country appoints a gaming commission watchdog to monitor these sites. I would like to start a boycott online poker in 2014 campaign and get some more government regulated poker going such as in New Jersey and Delaware , where it will be ran without reproach . Thanks and good luck to all, Lets stop the blatant rigging