Went all-in with A9 against A8 in a tournament today and...won. I would guess you can't remember a single particular hand where a 75/25 or 80/20 won, but remember all the suck-outs.

All these riggie stories are predominantly SnG's and MTT's because that will have much more all-in action. If you see 10 80/20's, then on average there will be 2 suckouts. 13% of those times you see 10 80/20's, there will be 4 or more suckouts.

You and your "facts." Facts, schmacks. WE LOSE EVERY TIME, GODDAMN YOU, EVERY TIME. YOU AND YOUR ******* FACTS!!! They're just NUMBERS you know, someone made up curves to explain them but that's just, like, their opinion, man. The equariggalization can make me win big pots and lose small pots so it all looks normal! And the rig can do it WITHOUT doing anything that can be measured, yessir. I'm not sure exactly how the rig can have measurable effects without having measurable effects. Don't ask me too many questions, it makes me dizzy.

lol. I think Freddie has gone into hiding. He wants to put as much distance between himself and his own stupid claims as possible. Can't hardly blame the poor bastard I guess.

I can not imagine myself playing very well on three tables, respect! I think I will keep on playing one table for the most part. For me it is a lot better to play a BI level higher than to start up two tables, I know my thinking process pretty well from chess and with me the difference can be really big if I just add that extra seconds of concentration. At the moment I do not have that much knowledge about poker and my strength lies in the ability to keep on having a high level of concentration for a long period of time. Something that is hard to maintain if you start with two tables. Than the lack of knowledge will make sure you will have a small edge.

Why not play more tables of turbos rather than one table hypers? Fwiw respect to anyone that plays hypers and manages any sort of win rate, find the hypers the most tilting of all and I should imagine a riggies paradise in terms of all in equity, you'd need to play a lot of them to balance out the huge variance.

Alright guys, here's my Bovada poker story.

I had a decent two-month stretch and won about $400 betting on Bovada's sportsbook over the summer. I decided to cash out but leave $100 in and move over to the poker room. I consider myself an above average poker player (I suppose it's all relative). I put in my time on FullTilt, PokerStars, etc etc prior to BF.

I've been playing regularly on Bovada since November, and have lost about $200 total. I don't play above $5 stakes for SnG, and .10/.25 for cash games. I'm down to my last $20 as I write this. I'm not one to jump on forums and complain about "rigged" poker sites, but after what I've observed on Bovada, I couldn't hold back. The main reason I'm writing this is to see if anyone else playing Bovada is seeing the same thing. Here are my observations:

Observation #1 - All straights, never flushes
I can't tell you how many times I've seen straights hit. Seems like almost every other board is loaded up with straight draws. Conversely, flushes NEVER ever hit. It's so rare to see a flush made it must be a statistical anomaly. And I'm not saying this because I chase flushes, I don't unless I'm getting the right price. But, I've folded thousands of 4-to-a-flush hands, watching to see what would have happened, and it never comes. I've also seen thousands of guys chase and miss flushes. I actually think I've seen more quads and straight flushes than I have flushes. Definitely quads.

The only time I've seen flushes hit is when the flop is suited, and someone holding one suit hits his flush on the turn or river. And usually you've got 2 or three guys chasing with their weak suited card in that situation.

Observation #2 - Coolers and Bad Beats
I know I know, you've read it a million times, that guy bitching and crying about coolers and bad beats. Yes, they happen, and yes you can go on a bad run of cards. But there's a difference between bad runs/variance, and statistical anomalies. Again, my observations aren't just based on my own hands, they are also based on what I'm seeing after I've folded my hand to a pre-flop raise, or on the flop.

Let me set the stage with what happened to me yesterday afternoon. In a 2 hour losing session, these are the hands I had and how I lost:

My hand: AA
Flop: Q-x-x
I shove all-in on the flop, get called, villain has Q-J
Turn card: Q

Ok fine, no biggy, villain makes a bad call thinking his Q is good and turns a set. Donks make bad calls, it happens. This was the first beat of the day, and I shrugged it off, until...

AA loses to KK, all in preflop, villain turns a K
AA loses to 10-10, all in preflop, villain turns a 10
QQ loses to QJ, all in preflop, villain flops a straight, turns a straight flush.
AA loses to QQ, all in preflop, villain turns a Q

All of this happened in a 2 hour stretch. Right, I'm waiting for the pundits to tell me it happens. I say no. And in my years of playing online, I've never lost with AA to sets this many times, not even in one day let alone 2 hours.

I've seen this happen constantly with other players as well. Two guys get it all in pre, AA vs. KK, AA vs. QQ etc etc. The worst hand seems to make the set WAY more than not. How can this be possible?

I cracked AA yesterday too during that bad run. Villain popped it pre, I re-shoved with JJ, expecting to see AA or KK, and of course it was AA. I turned a J.

Conclusion:

I've decided not to blow any more money on Bovada. The mere fact that I have basically no chance at making a flush severely limits my starting range on the cash tables. I'm a small stakes LAG cash game player, and I like to play tons of suited connectors, suited gapped connectors, A-x suited, K-x suited, in position. When you take away the flush from my arsenal, I simply can't play the way I want to anymore.

My hope is that I can find a poker site that seems to be more "random."

If anything I've written resonates with anyone else playing Bovada, by all means I welcome your feedback.

Not seeing what you are seeing. Everything seems ok to me.

you just sound like a sore loser.

Fair enough jmurjeff. May I ask, what stakes/games do you play? How long have you been on Bovada? Are you a US player?

Was playing sit and gos and plo for awhile. Now mainly play $1-$2 and higher limit holdem. Had a Bovada account for a long time.

jmurjeff, it's gotten to the point where I've become gun-shy to shove preflop with AA. And when I do and I get snap-called, I'm almost sure they have a pair and will catch the set.

I guess it's time to leave Bovada. Do you recommend any other US-friendly sites?

I personally think you are going to come to the same conclusion regardless of where you play.

So, are you suggesting it's my play? Any critique is fine with me. But, how is one supposed to be a winning poker player when you get it in with the best and lose more often than not?

want flushes. play plo.

haha! It's not that I want flushes. Well, what poker player doesn't watch flushes. But, without flushed boards, I'm powerless with my starting range. I can't even semi-bluff, or represent the flush.

You can't take away almost all probability of a flush from a poker player and expect them to adjust accordingly.

As most people around here know, I had my riggie phase. My God, how many games I lost because I was done with it, really done. 130BI under EV, wtf. My results in 2013 could be so much better if I just kept on having a solid state of mind. The whole first year of playing HU hyper I was struggling with my mental state on this game. How to handle variance is of vital importance in this game where the edges are so thin. But the advantage of HU hyper is that you realize pretty fast how this tilting effects your win-rate. Losing on average one game out of 100 games because of tilt (which you would have won if you where not tilting) has a huge impact. This means you will lose 2 BI over 100 games which really add up. Losing one game out of 100 because of poor concentration, that is another 2 BI. So a hyper player can easy lose 4BI over 100 games if he is having tilt and concentrating problems. That is just two games out of 100 he should won but lost because all of these small mistakes. This alone is more than all the variance you would ever have in a year. So yes, mental state is key and yes this game is a mental challenge but it also is a game where you are forced to learn it because the impact of mental issues will be so much bigger than any variance you can experience in this game.

I really like HU hyper, it is fast and very dynamic. You have to adapt fast, and every small mistake will cost you money. I also like normal HU and I played this a bit in the past. If I have the feeling that I know a lot about 0-25BB HU poker and I managed to become a really good player, I will for sure going to work on my game in normal HU or turbo.

its not only your play, its your mindset. you think the site is rigged, thats simply buffoonery.

check their website. they just posted that bovada will no longer be offering flushes to us-players. cant wait for regulated poker so we can have our flushes back....

lmfao!!! Fine, rip on me all you want, I can handle it

Played a $5 rebuy tourney last night and made 3 flushes in the first hour. Poker is just a crazy game with a lot of players who like to play crazy.

I used to often take a deck of cards and deal out scenarios. Example being I'd take two aces and something like QJ suited and with the remaining cards I'd deal out a flop, turn and river. Surprisingly hands like QJ suited would win a lot more than one would think in that situation.

Nobody told you about the gold tin-foil?

Juk

I think I'm gonna give Juicy Stakes poker a try. Hoping for better luck there.

just dont come back crying when you miss a flush draw there. nobody wants to hear a "juicy stakes story"

The odds of making a flush by the river with 2 suited cards is 15 to 1, that means 15 times you will not make it and one time you will make it, just think about it.

Here, you can read about other poker odds http://www.suntzupoker.com/poker-odds.aspx

Completely inaccurate if I flop 2 suits to a flush. 9 outs. 18% to the turn, about 36% to the river.

Sounds like you need to learn up on your poker odds bro.

He is not saying what you think he is saying. You seem pretty slow in general.

Anyway, Bodog is doing stuff far more sinister than whatever crazy you believe in, take a look at their latest innovation of invisible flop poker

http://bonuscodepoker.com/invisible-...vada-and-bodog

This way they do not even have to try to hide the rig!

All the best.