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Full Tilt currently has around ,000 of mine frozen... just a warning to others Full Tilt currently has around ,000 of mine frozen... just a warning to others

03-05-2011 , 06:26 PM
Hello

I know I am new and I have read just about every thread like this so I know that I have no credibility but I also have nothing to hide and am not looking to gain much either except maybe moral support. I don't think anyone can really help so this is more of a fair warning. I am angry and frustrated about the way this matter has been handled and at this point my only goal is to help this not happen to anyone else as well as gain a little revenge from FullTilt losing players.

I will be open and honest about everything and answer every question you guys have although I wont be sitting next to the computer waiting for replies I will check and update this multiple times throughout the day. I have already gone to FTP Sean and Doug, with no help from Sean and his attempt was downright lame. Doug never replied.

Story goes as follows (short version). Sign up for Full Tilt in Nov and all I do is watch the action and take notes for a few months I really did not have much time to play anyway with work and holidays. Feb 12 make my first deposit of $100 using EFT whatever they call the bank deposits. Get it up to $10,000 within 48 hours and lose it all. Play fast and loose as I am comfortable in the $50/$100-$100/200 range and I am just looking to play for fun and some extra income not play for a living. I have money from work I am almost 40 years old. Just didnt know how to deposit more than this $100 so had to start there. Waited my 7 days deposit $600, lose it deposit $600 next day get it to $18,000 within 72 hours. Account gets frozen pending verification. I send the normal license, utility bill, bank statement dated after my deposits was demanded not my last bank statement. I notified them that chase only issues statements one time a month. Anyone else with chase bank can confirm this but at the bank they will give me a recent transaction history showing the account is still open and it has my full name and account number on it. I send that. They then want me to send a picture of me holding my passport next to my face and to scan my passport which i thought was a little weird. I dont have one but they say my license with previous address is good enough. I send that. They say they have verified everything but dont believe I am the person in control of the account. This was on the 21 and 22 of Feb. I will post all of the emails if you want but its a lot of information at least 40 emails. They at this point will only respond to me like every other day and will not answer my questions. They have changed their mind as well and will not accept that bank transaction histoty (changed their minds 8 days later I think). Also they want me to show the $100, $600 and $600 coming out of my account. I showed the $100 because it came out. I have told them several times now to contact their payment processor about the other two transactions because no attempt has been made to take any more money out and they keep telling me to show it coming out. They really are brain dead individuals and I know I could replace the whole department by myself and do 10x the job that they do. Even getting back to people quicker than they do working only an 8 hour shift and having no one else come in when I'm not there.

Name is R_nasty1 on there just like here. I only play omaha 8 and played triple draw one day just to try it out. I was playing the regular players like buharmak, checkraisellc, easypots, tttn0415, nadremark etc. alot of heads up and some 6 max.

We will start with any questions and then I will post all of the emails if you guys want them because I have to run to do something at the moment. It is really insane to me how inept the individuals working in security are.

The accusation is multiaccounting I guess or not controlling my own account I suppose I really do not know what they would classify it as.

The reason I do not know how much money is in there is because they booted me off the table in the middle of a heads up $50/$100 hand with checkraisellc and I did not know what was happening so they let me sit back down and in the middle of the next hand they booted me again and closed my connection to the server. Which I think is pretty disgusting and dirty in its own right to do in the middle of the hand.

I never made any attempt to withdraw or transfer.

So let the questions and investigating begin.
03-05-2011 , 06:34 PM
gl dude, sounds fked up
03-05-2011 , 06:40 PM
How did you do this??

"I have already gone to FTP Sean and Doug,"
03-05-2011 , 06:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KEW
How did you do this??

"I have already gone to FTP Sean and Doug,"
This... also smells like troll poop to me.
03-05-2011 , 06:53 PM
Came back because I remembered one more thing I do not have rakeback on there. I know that is asked a lot. I also to answer the obvious never opened another account previously.

KEW - As said I read a lot of similar threads and somewhere in there Sean had said since someone could not PM him if anyone ever needed him and could not PM they could just email him at sean@fulltiltpoker.com he did reply but all he did was forward the message I wrote to him to security and has not replied to any emails since.

and I assumed Doug would be Doug@fulltiltpoker.com based on that maybe I am wrong and that is why he hasnt replied.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 03-06-2011 at 12:46 AM.
03-05-2011 , 07:06 PM
IF you actually ran $100 up to 10k in 48 hours and 600$ up to 18k in 72 hours then forget poker and this 'problem' you're having, go immediately to your nearest convenience store and buy exactly 1 mega lottery ticket, all problems will thenceforward be solved.... As I said earlier... smells like troll poop.
03-05-2011 , 07:32 PM
Something very fishy about this dont you have to play so many hands at 5/10 before you can play nosebleeds plus you have to email the site to allow you to play that high
03-05-2011 , 07:51 PM
I have asked cashier@fulltiltpoker.com for a complete set of hand histories or table transactions (what I got on and off each table with). But to answer the question no you don't have to email them for anything the original $100 I took to a hu pot limit table to either lose or get enough to play $15/$30 and won a couple hands and bounced as I'm the first to admit I suck at PLO and just got lucky then I played $15/$30 until I had enough, and there was a $30/$60 game going. The other two deposits I believe I took right to $30/$60 for all the people who are posting about not believing the financials forget about that right now I will provide whatever the cashier provides me to prove it. You have to remember it is much easier to win fast when the money will not affect your life. Just like if someone who makes $20k a week went to blackjack with the only $2000 he had in his pocket he'd probably start firing large hands relatively quickly because the small hands wouldn't do anything for him entertainment-wise (not claiming I make that much a week) again I am not doing this for a living I have bigger aspirations than making what even the most successful poker players make. Even the 10 most successful poker players in the world make crumbs from just poker every year compared to the top 1000 paid CEOs in the world.
03-05-2011 , 08:07 PM
lol you sound like me , I deposited $400 and turned it into 10K within 4 hours just playing PLO..... worked my way up to the $25/$50 tables...thats what u call makin a run haha
03-05-2011 , 08:10 PM
Assuming all that you said is true, the only thing they could be checking is for possible chip-dumping / money laundering.

I also hate that they can tie up this money when it's legit, but hopefully it doesn't take too long to sort out.

OP, you have to appreciate that you are in the tiniest fraction of players that can or are willing to take a $600 deposit to $15k within days, and that your playing patterns are highly irregular. This alone prob. flagged your account. Once they thoroughly clear you once, I'm sure after that you'll be good to go.
03-05-2011 , 08:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CardCatchr22
lol you sound like me , I deposited $400 and turned it into 10K within 4 hours just playing PLO..... worked my way up to the $25/$50 tables...thats what u call makin a run haha
He sounds so much like you to the point that you both seem to be the same person!

Btw...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...s-what-992537/
03-05-2011 , 08:13 PM
I have asked cashier@fulltiltpoker.com for a complete set of hand histories or table transactions (what I got on and off each table with). But to answer the question no you don't have to email them for anything the original $100 I took to a hu pot limit table to either lose or get enough to play $15/$30 and won a couple hands and bounced as I'm the first to admit I suck at PLO and just got lucky then I played $15/$30 until I had enough, and there was a $30/$60 game going. The other two deposits I believe I took right to $30/$60 for all the people who are posting about not believing the financials forget about that right now I will provide whatever the cashier provides me to prove it. You have to remember it is much easier to win fast when the money will not affect your life. Just like if someone who makes $20k a week went to blackjack with the only $2000 he had in his pocket he'd probably start firing large hands relatively quickly because the small hands wouldn't do anything for him entertainment-wise (not claiming I make that much a week) again I am not doing this for a living I have bigger aspirations than making what even the most successful poker players make. Even the 10 most successful poker players in the world make crumbs from just poker every year compared to the top 1000 paid CEOs in the world.
03-05-2011 , 08:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ant___z
He sounds so much like you to the point that you both seem to be the same person!

Btw...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...s-what-992537/
lmao , wow what a troll
03-05-2011 , 08:52 PM
Has nothing to do with money laundering or chip dumping sorry about the double post a mod can delete please as it won't let me. They are very clear it is about me not being who I say will just post the emails when I get home but be aware it is a lot of reading. As for me being the other guy i didn't read his post but I'm not him.
03-05-2011 , 08:57 PM
Who runs 100 dollars to 10k in 48 hours?

How is this even possible, what stakes were you playing?
03-05-2011 , 09:02 PM
Your name doesn't show up on TR...
03-05-2011 , 09:02 PM
does reading that make anyone elses head hurt?

"We will start with any questions"

lolwut
03-05-2011 , 09:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by R_Nasty1
They say they have verified everything but dont believe I am the person in control of the account.
Post the email where they tell you this
03-05-2011 , 09:09 PM
Whats Tr? Coolnout im trying to help avoid a similar fate for you guys who are relying on the money in their poker accounts if it hurts your head then move along. If you guys don't give a *** then I'll move along.

Hello,

Please note that we are awaiting your list of ALL accounts that you have created or controlled on Full Tilt Poker.

Please also note that we are aware that the person whose details are listed on the account is not in control of it.

Once we receive the requested list, we will be able to assist you further.

Regards,

Peter
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Last edited by Mike Haven; 03-06-2011 at 12:47 AM.
03-05-2011 , 09:18 PM
Did you send them your picture with you holding the passport? Couldn't figure it out from what you wrote.
03-05-2011 , 09:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deuc3s
Who runs 100 dollars to 10k in 48 hours?

How is this even possible, what stakes were you playing?
This... exactly what I said.

And THEN 600$ to 18k in 72 hours.

I call bullchit.
03-05-2011 , 09:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ra]\\[dom
Did you send them your picture with you holding the passport? Couldn't figure it out from what you wrote.
I sent one holding my old license which they said was alright because I don't have a passport

No reply from cashier to verify the money but I will asap anyone know if there is a different FTP email I should be asking for this?

Last edited by Mike Haven; 03-06-2011 at 12:48 AM.
03-05-2011 , 09:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by R_Nasty1
Hello,

Please note that we are awaiting your list of ALL accounts that you have created or controlled on Full Tilt Poker.

Please also note that we are aware that the person whose details are listed on the account is not in control of it.

Once we receive the requested list, we will be able to assist you further.

Regards,

Peter
Security
Full Tilt Poker

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please remember never to give out your password or enter
account details over the Internet. Full Tilt Poker staff will
never ask you for your password. For your security, always
keep this information a secret.

Learn, Chat, and Play with the Pros at Full Tilt Poker
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So FTP thinks that you are not in "control" of what ever account you play on, and they seem to think you are playing on an account you did not create. Or they think you have created multiple accounts. Or you listed some one else as the name on the account for some reason.

If they are holding it for what would seem like no reason if you have been forthcoming to them its messed up. If you are playing on multiple accounts you should have read the TOC.
03-05-2011 , 09:32 PM
TR = PTR = pokertableratings
03-05-2011 , 09:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fermion5
TR = PTR = pokertableratings
I see I don't think they track omaha8

      
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