tony g giving robl a speech about not being tight was so funny

Don't know if anyone's said this but I'm guessing Daniel specifically studied Hachem's play from HSP prior to this session to familiarize himself with his play as they probably don't play much if at all in the same cash games outside of the BG. I'd argue that, knowing their respective styles, it makes more sense to study Hachem's game than, say, durrrr's, because the former plays less hands and probably has more distinctive patterns whereas a talented hyperlag like durrrr mixes it up too much to effectively counter.

I guess my point is that I'm not too impressed with what Daniel said, especially after he ended up folding anyway. He was being pretty consistent there, in fact, as his schtick is to put the opponent on a hand that beats him and still call -- this was just reversed.

Now, where the hell is ep3!

daniels bet/call on both flop + turn with the ace were so fishy

Yes, we slightly misunderstood your first message. You've done very well to explain it.

Actually, your English is superior to many who speak it as a first language. You should be proud of it. If it's not too personal, what is your first language, Robby?


Thank you for that nice wish.

i'd like to be chastised by tony.g fwiw

Man regardless of whether or not she is using limp calling everything as a strategy to win a small profit, it sure is boring. Not to mention she is losing a lot of value when she does hit a hand.

I just wanna see like durr, antonius, or ivey playing at this table too (or all three) against how aggressive Tony G is playing. That'd be an exciting game.
Although it seems like Antonius has been playing kind of tight lately?

lol Tony G's rant to Robl is hilarious. Its so mandatory to have Tony G on every televised cash game show. Also, Hoyt Corkins confirmed busto?

tony G is amazing, so funny.

Isn't Galfond getting in on this week?

I feel bad that everyone jumped on the loose cannon and scared her off. It's ok to criticize her game but some people were just being plain old dicks. oh well, I still hope she can make a profit.

Standard Tony G 73/52. Love the table talk. Tony's been in some televised cash games before, but not against the elite like Ivey, Durrr & co., right?

The LC is obviously playing badly but I don't have a beef with that
...except for the fact that IIRC she proudly stated that she's actually got game, being a cash game reg at her local casino and all. In that light her game is very lol worthy.

Edit: ZOMG Tony G! lololol

Loved it!

He was in at least two season (I think the first two) of the Full Tilt Million Dollar Cash Game and did really well there (biggest or second biggest winner I think). He obviously did play loose also but since the lineup was tougher not as crazy as this week. Look on the obvious streaming sites for those episodes if you like to see him play.

So, Hoyt wasn't around long enough to be rude to the LC so obv must be Robl.

There's still 2 days to go. Maybe there will be another new player.

I think she was referring to DN. Its obvious she dosn't repect DN's game.
I hope DN stacks her.

Definitely agree, Redux, with your take on the LC. When this thread was just starting, I and a few others told her not to take the harsh (i. e., "douchey") criticism so hard because it was to be expected, but in the same vain be open to the constructive (legitimate) criticism that should be welcome in a forum like this. I think, for the most part, many of the posters in here have been fair with their comments/criticism/assessment of EH's game (as it's been displayed on the show).

My take on the LC is similar to yours, Redux. I clicked a link of her audition tape (posted in this thread) and she said when she plays live people are surprised at her calculated *aggression* and that she wouldn't be afraid to, and I'm paraphrasing, "three-bet in position if she felt like her opponent was trying to steal." She gave the impression that she wouldn't be scared money and she someday wanted to go pro. She even quoted Phil Gordon from his book saying "it's better to be a bettor and a raiser than a checker and a caller." But, judging from the first few episodes of this week she's played pretty passively and weak (her approach and not skill-level--which may be debatable).


With that said, I am still rooting for her to do well and turn a profit when all is said and done.

If this LC actually wins money I am quitting poker... No disrespect, but she is just playing so so weak, everyone at the table can read her like a book.
On another note, Tony G is awesome in these episodes. Normally I am not a big fan of his, because I don't like him insulting people all the time. But it's just awesome to watch aggrotards run hotter than the sun. Plus he actually is being pretty funny this time around.

I too hope she turns a nice profit, but even if there were no negative comments in here, all Elizabeth need do is watch the episodes and listen to Stapes' assessment of her play.

It's true that if this were a regular game with regular rules and she wasn't just on one bullet limping would be lol bad.

But look at what happened to Russ. He played aggressively with all his good hands, got 3bet quiet a few times and called and rarely won any of those big pots and slowly dwindled with his stack. I'm not saying he played bad, I thought he played well apart from a few mistakes but the "right way" might just not be optimal for a deep pot limit pre, no limit post one bullet only game.

So her preflop strategy I think is actually good. Problem is she makes mistake post flop. Doesn't know how to get away from TPGK type of hands cheaply when multiway, makes info raises and doesn't stay in a pot longer when heads up + her body tells.


I wish she'd come back tho, I guess everyone me included really was a bit to harsh for her "thick skin" yesterday :P

God sometimes I forget why poker is so profitable and then I read strategy talk like this. Thank goodness.

With this table dynamic and the LC Rules I think she might be playing a close to optimal strategy. Every pot is raised with god knows what handa, nobody is giving up hands postflop and she has only 100K vs. 150K-700K and can't rebuy or add money. A LC can't play aggro like Tony G for the 150 hands; maybe you could play like that to start with and then tighten up if it works out. Or you could play weak tight and gamble late like most have done so far. It is really hard to say how a LC should play especially with the different players on the table every week. But one thing I know:

You can't judge the LC by optimal Cash Game strategy and you might even make yourself look like a fool if you do so.

BTW: We should really make a special LC Strategy thread!

More importantly, how on earth someone can build a $125k pot by calling double check raise while the guy has $26k left.

Problem with this is that playing weak tight is just draining chips unless you get pretty lucky. Why wait till you have 70k and then gamble hoping to double up to 140 (40 profit) when you could gamble from the off and hope to double up to 200 (100 profit). I'd be very tempted to gamble it up from hand 1. The pros wouldn't be expecting it.

Irrespective of strategy, this LC is giving up way too much information by talking and showing cards, that's like tossing $100s out of the window. Be outgoing for sure, talk about Canada, talk about your life, talk about how great Tony G is some more or how Reynolds is clearly off his tits, but don't talk about poker!

Are you really going to argue with results?

You did watch last week and seen what happened to Russ did you?

Look at Elizabeth, she didn't have any big hands and despite all of us writing her off bar a miracle she's back in black..

And yes you could argue that she could have won more with KQ and TT for example if she raised preflop, but then again if she didn't catch the perfect board with either of those she would have lost way more but with her strategy she would have lost the min.


But you're right I'm a fish man, hope you find me online and take all my moniez.