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Popular Poker Streamer Gripsed Accused of Botting (viewer counts) Popular Poker Streamer Gripsed Accused of Botting (viewer counts)

03-27-2016 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkMattersMan
Lol. Why is Jaime staples viewers so low? Hes normally in the 2-3k viewers right now? And 4k+ in a few hours.
Jaimes current viewers seems standard for him. Meanwhile gripsed has 199 viewers...
03-27-2016 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PostFlopRepop
Gripsed, you're a disgrace. Pathetic attempt at trying to clear your name I suppose? Are you suggesting I have been paying for viewbots for everyone of your streams? So the graphs that jaime showed are all coming out of my pocket. You ****ing liar, bruh, im serious, not a threat sir, but you better ****ing hope I dont see you around. I know you're in the Annex area.

Are you suggesting that I am behind the chat bots as well? Did you happen to look at what has happened with your mods leaving and others leaving your gripsed pyramid scheme and decided today would be the best day to come forward and blame me. For your sake, pray to god we dont cross paths.

A wholehearted "**** you." This won't stop, I despise you now, right.

2+2 isn't ******ed like your gripsters, no one is gonna believe you. Just wait til 4pm sir.

Go **** yourself.
I can see why no one wants to live with you.
03-27-2016 , 08:07 PM
Hello everyone, it has been a little bit of time since my last post here, i was temp banned, understandable of course.

I may be done here, as you guys can probably see, the only ones supporting the fraudster gripsed are new accounts. Every single one, so there's little reason for me to continue this.

People talk about my mental stability/instability here. These are warranted thoughts, I do not hold them against you. But my devil is my anger issue. Look at the way I replied and say this guy is out of his mind. Warranted I suppose. I'll tell ya'll what however, I'd take my mind over anyone's, 95% of ya'll are robots. Incapable of expressing any other emotion other than acknowledgement. I PRIDE myself on my loyalty. Simple as that, I put my Mother's life on it.

Call me Captain Obvious, but I can't resist.
- If I was viewbotting, I would I stop?
- Am I also being accused of the chat bots? This was never stated.
- If someone was innocent, as he claims, would they make that youtube video
- The ONLY reason the douche posted here its because he had no other option
- Douche didn't think it was odd that within 30 min of streaming I would be there to assist with 1.4k additional viewers... Every time

Anywho, anyone who believes Gripsed, I pity. But pardon me as I pat myself on the back, I saw his stream today and every time viewers brought it up. Made me smile. I'm sick like that.

We already know who is going to reply to this, the same minions paid by gripsed. Yo ghost of m, real quick, we were cool back when, but this thread showed your true colors. You been here replying to every single comment, all the while leaning towards gripsed. This doesn't seem odd to anyone?

GRIPSED IS A FRAUD. Til my last breath on this planet. Just google gripsed + fraud, it's there forever kid. All eternity.

The same supporters of the fraud will continue replying to this thread. I could be done, but damage is already done folks.

Believe what you want, I accomplished set goal. Bring the fraudster to justice. Mission accomplished.

All the best.
03-27-2016 , 08:52 PM
I feel like i should forward the private messages you sent threatening to fight me too.. offering to meet me in person again.


So lets run through your psychobabble


A) you acknowledge you are unstable
B) We(anyone) are capable of being logical much more than you
C) If you were viewbotting yes you would start for a short period and then stop. There is MANY MORE arguments for you to stop viewbotting than keep going

D) Probably the only valid point you made, His youtube video about this issue was completely ******ed/stupid and did nothing but make him look more ignorant/Arrogant/sensitive than anyone else I know.(This coming from one of gripseds first twitch viewers).

E) He posted here because this is the poker community not ****ing reddit.
F) He didn't look into it clearly because he was focused on what he was doing, trying to be entertaining trying to run a good stream and interact with viewers.

G) The poor quality of the questions someone posted earlier is similar to your wording too


H) I didn't believe gripsed at first, I will admit that. I wanted to hear his thoughts on the matter before throwing an accusation around.

but EVERY post you make just makes yourself look more dangerous and guilty than anyone.
You say you want to expose/attack/Ruin gripsed life..
So how is it not logical that you did the viewbotting thing yourself?
You have had a personal vengeance with him for some time... So how would we not think that due to your vengeance and the fact that you are making it a personal goal to attack this person, That you would not SPEND 50 dollars as part of a scheme to give a guy bad rep online?


I don't plan to view gripsed stream again I prefer the smaller guys with less chat for more interaction with the viewers.
But this is a 100% no brainer now.. you def did this.
I am waiting for you to do more viewbotting and then come back with a "Oh look hes back at his old tricks again" post.
03-27-2016 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPoo8
I feel like i should forward the private messages you sent threatening to fight me too.. offering to meet me in person again.


So lets run through your psychobabble


A) you acknowledge you are unstable
B) We(anyone) are capable of being logical much more than you
C) If you were viewbotting yes you would start for a short period and then stop. There is MANY MORE arguments for you to stop viewbotting than keep going

D) Probably the only valid point you made, His youtube video about this issue was completely ******ed/stupid and did nothing but make him look more ignorant/Arrogant/sensitive than anyone else I know.(This coming from one of gripseds first twitch viewers).

E) He posted here because this is the poker community not ****ing reddit.
F) He didn't look into it clearly because he was focused on what he was doing, trying to be entertaining trying to run a good stream and interact with viewers.

G) The poor quality of the questions someone posted earlier is similar to your wording too


H) I didn't believe gripsed at first, I will admit that. I wanted to hear his thoughts on the matter before throwing an accusation around.

but EVERY post you make just makes yourself look more dangerous and guilty than anyone.
You say you want to expose/attack/Ruin gripsed life..
So how is it not logical that you did the viewbotting thing yourself?
You have had a personal vengeance with him for some time... So how would we not think that due to your vengeance and the fact that you are making it a personal goal to attack this person, That you would not SPEND 50 dollars as part of a scheme to give a guy bad rep online?


I don't plan to view gripsed stream again I prefer the smaller guys with less chat for more interaction with the viewers.
But this is a 100% no brainer now.. you def did this.
I am waiting for you to do more viewbotting and then come back with a "Oh look hes back at his old tricks again" post.
Lol, here they all they come .....

Real quick, did you overlook my second bullet?

Am I being accused of the chat bots? They go hand in hand you see.

Why are you gripsters overlooking this? So simple, is it not?

I would have had to program all the chat bots, and did I send him followers too. You guys assume I paid for the followers as well eh, why not right.

I'm only replying cuz this is funny and I am bored.

Please answer sir.
03-27-2016 , 09:25 PM
On top of all this, on Friday during the first hour of villains stream, I shipped a bounty builder for 3k. #fate
03-27-2016 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PostFlopRepop
On top of all this, on Friday during the first hour of villains stream, I shipped a bounty builder for 3k. #fate
$3k how much is that in view bots? 60??
03-27-2016 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PostFlopRepop
On top of all this, on Friday during the first hour of villains stream, I shipped a bounty builder for 3k. #fate
Well now that you have more money to blow.. who's career are you going to try to ruin next? You've already done a lot more damage than you think to "your boy" Jaime Staples
03-27-2016 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bnswhr
Well now that you have more money to blow.. who's career are you going to try to ruin next? You've already done a lot more damage than you think to "your boy" Jaime Staples
18 career posts on 2p2, how many in this thread?

Rhetorical question.

If you may answer sir, am I also responsible for the chat bots in your opinion?
03-27-2016 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PostFlopRepop
On top of all this, on Friday during the first hour of villains stream, I shipped a bounty builder for 3k. #fate
On who's account? yours? your ex gfs? your friends sister?

i didn't overlook your second point, didnt notice my account being new either.


Honestly you have shown so much hatred for gripsed IRL and I know your falling out with him was months ago (think over a year If i am not mistaken).
you Have threatened his life too... So do I put it past you to do this? NO
I would not put it past you to actually manually program every single bot.
I would even think you would download the bots 1 by 1 and do it that way.

Something funny if you look at his guys sharkscope guys He has shown not much activity on pokerstars from october 2015 till now (majority of play in october too)... What were you doing If not grinding? There is no chance you had an actual job. You were never a cash player.
Plenty of time to go about this when you were not grinding as much in the last 4-6 months compared to 4-6 months before that.


Once again just stop responding you are damaging your already horrible reputation.. and just making yourself look that much more like the guilty suspect.
Not one respectable player in Toronto would vouch for you and now no one will online.
03-27-2016 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPoo8
On who's account? yours? your ex gfs? your friends sister?

i didn't overlook your second point, didnt notice my account being new either.


Honestly you have shown so much hatred for gripsed IRL and I know your falling out with him was months ago (think over a year If i am not mistaken).
you Have threatened his life too... So do I put it past you to do this? NO
I would not put it past you to actually manually program every single bot.
I would even think you would download the bots 1 by 1 and do it that way.

Something funny if you look at his guys sharkscope guys He has shown not much activity on pokerstars from october 2015 till now (majority of play in october too)... What were you doing If not grinding? There is no chance you had an actual job. You were never a cash player.
Plenty of time to go about this when you were not grinding as much in the last 4-6 months compared to 4-6 months before that.


Once again just stop responding you are damaging your already horrible reputation.. and just making yourself look that much more like the guilty suspect.
Not one respectable player in Toronto would vouch for you and now no one will online.
Lol, this is what I was talking about everyone. The same minions replying time and time again.

Who else thinks I chat botted his channel? Rhetorical question bruh.

Anyone new perhaps? Or the same people over and over and over.

But again, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
03-27-2016 , 10:52 PM
Mission Accomplished?

You said "I will make it my mission to ruin his career"


So how should we not assume you did it? or at least accuse you?


Again I point out to the fact you are shady and everyone agrees.


just admit you did it bro.
03-27-2016 , 10:57 PM
Also just want to point out I haven't touched gripsed stream in a while (regardless of what your ****ed up mind and mental issues wants to believe)
Twitch name is Mattm89 and I only watch 1 stream now.. Cswidlers
Since i know you won't stop watching his streams for the Antisweats feel free to see if I am there every time... I won't be

Jeez I hope i am not this big of a ****up in life when I get to mid 30s like this guy
03-27-2016 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PostFlopRepop
Hello everyone, it has been a little bit of time since my last post here, i was temp banned, understandable of course.

I may be done here, as you guys can probably see, the only ones supporting the fraudster gripsed are new accounts. Every single one, so there's little reason for me to continue this.

People talk about my mental stability/instability here. These are warranted thoughts, I do not hold them against you. But my devil is my anger issue. Look at the way I replied and say this guy is out of his mind. Warranted I suppose. I'll tell ya'll what however, I'd take my mind over anyone's, 95% of ya'll are robots. Incapable of expressing any other emotion other than acknowledgement. I PRIDE myself on my loyalty. Simple as that, I put my Mother's life on it.

Call me Captain Obvious, but I can't resist.
- If I was viewbotting, I would I stop?
- Am I also being accused of the chat bots? This was never stated.
- If someone was innocent, as he claims, would they make that youtube video
- The ONLY reason the douche posted here its because he had no other option
- Douche didn't think it was odd that within 30 min of streaming I would be there to assist with 1.4k additional viewers... Every time

Anywho, anyone who believes Gripsed, I pity. But pardon me as I pat myself on the back, I saw his stream today and every time viewers brought it up. Made me smile. I'm sick like that.

We already know who is going to reply to this, the same minions paid by gripsed. Yo ghost of m, real quick, we were cool back when, but this thread showed your true colors. You been here replying to every single comment, all the while leaning towards gripsed. This doesn't seem odd to anyone?

GRIPSED IS A FRAUD. Til my last breath on this planet. Just google gripsed + fraud, it's there forever kid. All eternity.

The same supporters of the fraud will continue replying to this thread. I could be done, but damage is already done folks.

Believe what you want, I accomplished set goal. Bring the fraudster to justice. Mission accomplished.

All the best.
Same thing happened to me. Although, admittedly, I did go a bit overboard in my post that got removed. I will write that, in my opinion, it was probably Gripsed that ordered the bots to his own channel. And that's also based on his response(s) to the accusation. Do I believe you likely have some sort of psychological issue that you should seek help for? Sure. Do I think you had anything at all to do with the viewbots in Gripsed's channel? Not for a second.

I enjoyed reading this thread as I found it very entertaining. Reading these responses was actually quite an interesting process. Without naming names or making personal insults, as a mod made clear would not be allowed, I'd just like to state that if you believe that Twitch does not profit from viewbots then you are....how do I write this in a nicer way than my removed post....not that intelligent. Very-not-that-intelligent. At the very least you aren't educated on the subject.

As someone that works in the industry and has firsthand knowledge, I truly believe anyone that isn't in my shoes should still be able to figure this out themselves. If someone is posting about viewbots and mentioning anything about stress on servers then this person clearly has no background in computer science and very little to no grasp on the subject they're writing about. Some people would refer to this as, "talking out your ass." It would be similar to me writing, "There's no way it's beneficial for Twitter to have millions and millions of fake accounts because of the storage costs and additional overhead." If you had any knowledge at all on the subject, and were not simply typing out words that sound correct when you put them together and say them out loud, then you should be able to realize how ridiculous it is of a statement to make.

If you think PostFlopRepop ordered viewbots to Gripsed's channel then you're certainly entitled to your opinion. If you think Gripsed did it himself then have that opinion. But when people post incorrect after incorrect after incorrect after incorrect statements about Twitch then that really only leads to more people who cannot think for themselves to spread this misinformation. Directly after one of these posts that I'm referring to, someone quotes it and their post opens with "This is a great post." No. No it isn't a great post. It's the polar opposite of a great post. It's similar to your post earlier in this thread (not you, PostFlopRepop) in which you state Twitch is losing money from viewbots because advertisers can differentiate between real people and bots and thus Twitch won't get paid advertising revenue for the bots. Which, as I've explained, makes zero sense because Twitch wouldn't be getting that advertising revenue if the bots weren't there anyways. It just doesn't make any sense at all. These posts that I describe are full of misinformation and statements that make no sense and anyone should be able to realize this after taking merely a few seconds to think about them. And these statements seem to be so frequent in this thread that it would take so much time to go through each, such as the examples I just provided, and detail exactly how ridiculous they actually are.

So, instead of doing that, I would highly encourage some people here to learn the difference between facts and opinions and, more importantly, to think harder (or at all) before you speak or write. This should not be limited to internet forums and I would encourage this in all areas of life.

Last edited by throwawaySSminow; 03-27-2016 at 11:23 PM.
03-27-2016 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by throwawaySSminow
Same thing happened to me. Although, admittedly, I did go a bit overboard in my post that got removed. I will write that, in my opinion, it was likely Gripsed that ordered the bots to his own channel. And that's also based on his response(s) to the accusation.

I enjoyed reading this thread as I found it very entertaining. Reading these responses was actually quite an interesting process. Without naming names or making personal insults, as a mod made clear would not be allowed, I'd just like to state that if you believe that Twitch does not profit from viewbots then you're....how do I write this in a nicer way than my removed post....not that intelligent. Very-not-that-intelligent. At the very least you aren't educated on the subject.

As someone that works in the industry and has firsthand knowledge, I truly believe anyone that isn't in my shoes should still be able to figure this out themselves. If someone is posting about viewbots and mentioning anything about stress on servers then this person clearly has no background in computer science and very little to no grasp on the subject they're writing about. Some people would refer to this as, "talking out your ass." It would be similar to me writing, "There's no way it's beneficial for Twitter to have millions and millions of fake accounts because of the storage costs and additional overhead." If you had any knowledge at all on the subject, and were not simply typing out words that sound correct when you put them together and say them out loud, then you should be able to realize how ridiculous it is of a statement to make.

If you think PostFlopRepop ordered viewbots to Gripsed's channel then you're certainly entitled to your opinion. If you think Gripsed did it himself then have that opinion. But when someone comes here and posts incorrect after incorrect after incorrect after incorrect statements about Twitch then that really only leads to more people who cannot think for themselves to spread this misinformation. Directly after one of these posts that I'm referring to, someone quotes it and their post opens with "This is a great post." No. No it isn't a great post. It's the polar opposite of a great post. It's similar to your post earlier in this thread in which you state Twitch is losing money from viewbots because advertisers can differentiate between real people and bots and thus Twitch won't get paid advertising revenue for the bots. Which, as I've explained, makes zero sense because Twitch wouldn't be getting that advertising revenue if the bots weren't there anyways. It just doesn't make any sense at all. These posts that I describe are full of misinformation and statements that make no sense and anyone should be able to realize this after taking merely a few seconds to think about them. And these statements seem to be so frequent in this thread that it would take so much time to go through each, such as the examples I just provided, and detail exactly how ridiculous they actually are.

So, instead of doing that, I would highly encourage some people here to learn the difference between facts and opinions and, more importantly, to think harder (or at all) before you speak or write. This should not be limited to internet forums and I would encourage this in all areas of life.
I consider you a friend. Cheers brother.
03-28-2016 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PostFlopRepop
Every single stream villain does, from now till eternity, will be encompassed by view bot accusations. It's O so beautiful. Makes me wanna do the Aaron Hernandez TD dance.I feel really good. I can't explain it.

I'll be honest however. Last 6 months, I was residing in a Motel 6 with your mom. I had BackPage aspirations. All went well, until the crack cocaine came about. GG. UL. FML.
So you admit getting off to the idea of others' reputations being tarnished. You really do have problems brother, but I'm 100% sure I am not the only one telling you this. Not sure why you don't have a lifetime ban yet. Karma will serve it's justice one day though I'm sure.
03-28-2016 , 01:25 AM
OMG throwawaySSMINOW

you disagreed with me, so because of that I am going to make some stupid joke about how I slept with your mother and than I will make some empty threat on your life.

Oh wait I am not like others when people disagree with my opinion .

I do find it funny that he says "I consider you a friend, cheers brother".
If only I was that messed up to consider people my friends when they say I have some sort of Psychological issue.

I didn't pay attention to most of the nonsense re: twitch since the only thing I knew for certain was people saying it cost 1000s for bots was just stupidity. (I still maintain looking hard enough you can find them for free)


For an account just made in march this strikes me as intriguing, I do see you commenting in another thread but if you do work in the industry why just make the account now?
Basically, please provide a bit more details about yourself please or about what exactly you do so we know you are not talking out of your ass.
because to be honest you make some sense, but it seems you added quite a bit of unnecessary filler there bud

Also curious how you just say "I don't think gripsed did it" then go off on a rant about general twitch issues.
03-28-2016 , 01:43 AM
Same people replying..................
03-28-2016 , 01:50 AM
Gripsed stated that it took him 3weeks to realize postfloprepoop was umm.. let's say 'unbalanced'. My question, how in the fk does it take him THREE WEEKS (with him staying at his place to boot)?? How could it take anymore more than 3mins.?

btw, that vid. you had (but took down).. wow! That was entertaining!

Curious to see what Grips' numbers will be this week. Not really. It does suck to hear how this negatively impacts other streamers, ie. killingbird
Although maybe all this **** with gripsed will actually help to boost other's view counts?
03-28-2016 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Poker_Orifice
Gripsed stated that it took him 3weeks to realize postfloprepoop was umm.. let's say 'unbalanced'. My question, how in the fk does it take him THREE WEEKS (with him staying at his place to boot)?? How could it take anymore more than 3mins.?

btw, that vid. you had (but took down).. wow! That was entertaining!

Curious to see what Grips' numbers will be this week. Not really. It does suck to hear how this negatively impacts other streamers, ie. killingbird
Although maybe all this **** with gripsed will actually help to boost other's view counts?
You're make me blush pumpkin/gripster

Pardon me as I get that dirt off my shoulders bruhhhhhh
03-28-2016 , 02:10 AM
I realized it right away..
guess he doesn't have the proper medication yet to take care of himself. poor guy
03-28-2016 , 02:20 AM
same guy.........
03-28-2016 , 02:26 AM
Gonna threaten my life again? lol
admit your guilt bud, He helped you introducing you to merson, gregg, Charette, Griff and others and you ****ed it all up.

guess responsibility has never been in your world or your families huh?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25MdWNZNhtQ

also didn't realize evan deleted the 25 minute video and did this one.

Edit: also why did you remove that youtube video? didn't want people to see you for what you are?
03-28-2016 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPoo8
I realized it right away..
guess he doesn't have the proper medication yet to take care of himself. poor guy
Enough with the personal attacks already . Post flop helped expose a cheater on twitch and the gripsters are slinging personal attacks at the dude. Post flop never asked gripsed to view bot , it's not post flop's fault gripsed punted away his twitch career by cheating. It's like when the pro athlete gets busted for steroids and tries blaming the doctor or someone else (sure bud) you got caught .. It's not even the biggest deal / what's worse is lying and blaming post flop of all people. The skype twitch poker streamer group is their for a reason , if innocent I'm not sure why he didn't bring it to their attention (100-150 viewers normal / now I'm getting 1500 for a home game ). Then in his video he said he's never spoken / knows anything related to view bots , but staples refuted that and said he had spoken with gripsed about viewbots last year .
03-28-2016 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AuroraCee
Enough with the personal attacks already . Post flop helped expose a cheater on twitch and the gripsters are slinging personal attacks at the dude. Post flop never asked gripsed to view bot , it's not post flop's fault gripsed punted away his twitch career by cheating. It's like when the pro athlete gets busted for steroids and tries blaming the doctor or someone else (sure bud) you got caught .. It's not even the biggest deal / what's worse is lying and blaming post flop of all people. The skype twitch poker streamer group is their for a reason , if innocent I'm not sure why he didn't bring it to their attention (100-150 viewers normal / now I'm getting 1500 for a home game ). Then in his video he said he's never spoken / knows anything related to view bots , but staples refuted that and said he had spoken with gripsed about viewbots last year .
Guess you missed the part where he threatened him and said its a personal goal to ruin his life?

I actually also spoke to negreanu last year on his stream and he hasn't paid me a 10 dollar bet. see what i did there? (chat logs help, and it was likely online since even Jaime admitted hes only spoke to gripsed for maybe a few hours in person?)

It's funny you tell me to stop attacking the guy. Would you do so If I showed you the private messages he sent threatening me? would you say that if you knew that he burned every bridge poker related in toronto?

doubt it kid

      
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