They all should take it. I'm not aware of them making 3 anti-stars videos a month for a huge audience. Dont know how you can lack the understanding why ur spot is entirely different

So because someone speaks out about the negative changes going on and is one of the only people to do so, that means they shouldn't ever think about repairing the relationship and attempting to make a positive impact in other ways at any point in time?

OR take free money because of how they continued to be outspoken about the issues so much that the ****ing site is trying to say, hey, we respect that you were a psychopath about it.

it's allright, ultimatively your decision anyways just gave my (not necessarily asked for) opinion on the matter. originally i just came here for the tweet where you tell them to gtfo bc i don't have twitter but in the end I found something else

best of luq

ps: and merry christmas

^^^

Comparing what is happening here to being a sponsored pro is absurd.

Also, Unless you are sending Joey 30K to share the burden of the protest, it is you that should gtfo.

Also, aside from the money , the event is one of the biggest things to happen in poker in awhile. Most pro's will be there, lots of media coverage. Anyone involved in poker media industry should be there. You can hate the company that put this together, but the event was ambitious and is good for poker overall.


P.S. finally, I don't think he'e realized yet he's getting dealt only two cards per hand. so this might all be moot

all these ****ing logic wizards itt who actually suck at thinking

i'm not the slightest bit involved or invested and some of these replies are even tilting me

the fail in some of you really is super impressive because there's actually zero conflict of interest nor is there any real ethical concern re: accepting a prize from a promotion run by a company you aren't stoked on.

and that's before we even get to the most obvious aspect of all this, which is that none of you busto losers would ever actually turn this down. lol **** offff

Ignore TimStone - he's just an asshat who thinks he is cool because he spells like an idiot 6-year-old child.

i thought he was an asshat because he is/was a seat scripting full ring grinder, but yea that too

Jesus, I imagined there were people out there who actually bought Dougs holier than thou BS about himself this hard, still somewhat jarring to actually see one of you out in the wild.

Not saying Doug is a horrible guy, but if you actually think he or basically anyone with a net worth less than a few Mill would pass up a 5MM offer similar to what Joeys is, I'm not sure what to tell you.

The seat scripting, mass tabling, nitball, with YUUUUGE integrity. I'm not saying these things make a guy like Tim a bad guy either, but at some point, it would be nice if all of us poker players could be honest about what this whole thing is, and stop blathering on and on and deluding ourselves about the "morality" of it.

Joey sounds alot like that Lockoker Pro Brian Pellagrino who yelled to everybody that"change was coming" and never did.

Just because Pokerstars is hosting this giant tournament its not"great for poker" per say, its a way for everybody to look at stars and think they are good people, they will win longterm off this.

If change was really coming they would give rewards to its players, they would lower the rake, theyd do so many better things than to put 300 fish in this one mtt. Also Tim is right its funny you cant comprehend why your situation for accepting is way different than the other people. You made it your sole purpose to make lots of content off their dishonesty, and you are throwing all that to the side for 30k! Sad.

They arent showing signs of improving at all man Lol, took advantage of Jnandez, back to being butt buddies with Negreanu, had Hashtag King pay you 2k to go on your show, youll do anything for a dollar, list goes on and on. No receipts to the 500k on bovada..... professional hypocrite when it comes to breaking TOS, you sir are something else

His net worth is likely more than a few mill.
I just can't see Doug doing it lol, think he'd refuse out of pride if not principle.

Exactly 99 percent of people on here take the money
Keep in mind this is the same site where people wanted to protest no longer getting rakeback on rake they NEVER actually paid
They had no problem with recs getting ****ed as long as they benefited

I remember Mr Ingram talking with Mr Polk recently, about being like a lone madman shouting out about injustices, and being right about them.

I think going into the enemy camp, as it were, and getting a closer look at the enemy, is a sound idea, especially with getting $30,000 to do so.

Then he can get an insider's look at the set up, and talk with the people that do the things he doesn't like, which is better than being the lone madman shouting at them from a distance.

It is not as though they are paying him hush money to silence him forever, he will still be free to express his views, so isn't compromising himself, just getting a insider view.

He just makes money and never spends it? No way Dog Pork has a networth over 3million.

Ya I think going to the event would be a good thing. Why let a $30k gift go to waste just because you don't agree with the other party.

Lot's of good things can come from going like winning or cashing huge, getting some good vlogs, meet new contacts to do a podcast with, helping someone with their dream of going to the event. Only 1 good thing goes from not going, thumbing your nose at Stars and that's just boring.....


The math says go!

Well at least now we know the price of Joey's soul.

In a month after chilling with Dnegs can we expect a more rake IS good for the game video?

This is out of line.

The fact is if you stick around this business long enough you will find faults in every operator at one time or another. If you choose to focus on the negatives (as I have) you end up cursing the entire industry and nothing ever good comes from it.

What's worse the SNE thing for Stars or Party essentially staking players into their own events to fill overlays? Both are bad but if that's all you focus on nothing will change and poker won't improve.

Joey (will go obv.) and he should and if the event is good he should talk about it. That doesn't mean he has to ignore bad stuff. But a focus on the positive will improve poker as the concept of a United front from players to bring about change is fruitless... due to the capitalistic nature of so many of us.
I should probably follow my own advise... but I've moved on from poker.

Stars stealing SNE's money and it's not even close.

If you just carry on like they didn't steal how's that a good thing? If Joey takes the money it's a pay off to come on board. Unless he uses the opportunity to speak out against what they did.

Jesus, people on here are stupid. Ofcouse he does.

As for Joey, it really comes down to this: You will look like you're selling out if you take this offer. That's fact. How many strings are attached only you know ofcourse, but in the end all you have to do is decide whether $30k is worth it.

I tend to think it's not.

You think that's bad. How about party segregating winning players in different pools than recreationals, or allowing players have advantage with that handhistory fiasco with special software, plus allowing name changes so that bots aren't readily caught and having ****ty security overall.

I guess one should feel bad for SNE, even if it was in the TOS that bonus and rewards could change at any time. Not that I think it was a good move by PS, only giving a months notice when people were thinking to pick the rewards of SNE for two years instead of one.

As for Doug Polk, I have a hard time following the ethics of a guy who's goating people in, for example, the chicagojoey podcast to playing one of his teammates, which are propably sharing strategies and handhistories between them. I guess people always think in their self interest (think Ansky and other players that went to the Isle of man meetings), and then they talk about the good of the game, and online poker in general. Let's not be naif over here.

he had more than that before starting upswing lol

Pollyanna wanna cracker?