Game of Thrones TV Thread - ***NO BOOKREADERS***
05-13-2014
, 04:45 PM
05-13-2014
, 04:49 PM
1. Recasting.
2. He has been mentioned like 5 times already this season.
3. The new prominent character's sole reason for being there is for revenge against him.
So we know he's going to play a role at some point. Seems pretty logical for him to be thought of when a trial by combat is on the table.
But yeah, no legitimate reasons at all
Fwiw, some of things mentioned since the initial speculation like they wouldn't wait for him to travel there, Twyin trying to intervene and that sort of thing have me less confident of it happening, but it def seems the most likely still.
2. He has been mentioned like 5 times already this season.
3. The new prominent character's sole reason for being there is for revenge against him.
So we know he's going to play a role at some point. Seems pretty logical for him to be thought of when a trial by combat is on the table.
But yeah, no legitimate reasons at all
Fwiw, some of things mentioned since the initial speculation like they wouldn't wait for him to travel there, Twyin trying to intervene and that sort of thing have me less confident of it happening, but it def seems the most likely still.
05-13-2014
, 04:49 PM
05-13-2014
, 04:52 PM
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, 04:54 PM
05-13-2014
, 05:01 PM
05-13-2014
, 05:12 PM
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Why I suddenly like the idea of Meryn Trant(?) vs. Jamie.
I think we can assume that the shows creators don't like wasting time on air. You only get what, 450 minutes a season, to cover like a thousand+ pages of that old perverts novels. So if you're a show-runner I'd like to assume they aren't going to include dialogue about characters that aren't relevant or that won't pay off at some point whether it's this season or in the future.
A few episodes ago there was a scene with The Hound and Arya where The Big Show basically called Meryn Trant a lousy fighter (they were discussing the flamboyant sword-fighting teacher Arya had). Coupled with the two or more Jamie sword-fighting training montages.
Not too mention why even have Meryn Trant testify at all, surely the evidence was damning enough. OR they could have spent that 60 seconds with testimony from other prominent characters. But instead we get Trant and even a refresher on his history of wrongdoings. He def. got the villian edit this past episode.
Jamie vs. him seems possible. There are a lot of ways to rationalize that fight happening and a reference to Trant in last episode and having him testify in this one. Seems more than coincidental.
Hmmmmm.... Changing my vote to Jamie vs. Meryn instead of Mt. vs. Oberon.
However, all that logic could just as easily be used to suggest the mountain v. oberon battle. There have certainly been more talk of the mountain than Meryn Trant in recent episodes. Who knows.
Yet, I just can't help thinking about Arya's storyline. She wants to kill the Hound and the Mountain. They're brothers. The Hound hates his bro the Mountain too. They're both in the same neck of Westeros too, at least they were (they talked about in the chicken eating scene). I'd have to think bro vs. bro is a better showdown thematically, especially when you factor in Arya and how she wants both dead. Also, lets be real, there is no chance she's getting to the Vale. Poor girl can't catch a break.
Bold prediction: Hound + Arya v. Mountain = Hound loses, Arya on the run alone again or runs into that Band of Brothers again. Mountain vs. Oberon will be in later seasons when Mountain eventually gets back to Kings Landing. Jamie vs. Trant for the trial by combat. Jamie wins and gets his swag back.
Who knows. Obviously we're getting a mountain battle of some sort this season and personally I'd rather see two giants battle and we'd still get to see Jamie fight too.
I think Oberon is too valuable as an outside observer to Kings Landing, his scenes provide a new perspective for the narrative. I think it would be a waste to have him battle the mountain, a slow burn is probably better with his storyline. Unless of course he would beat the Mountain. However, then where does that leave the Hound and Arya, I think they have to run into the Mountain.
My biggest gripe, I don't know where in the world half the characters are in relation to each other or the distance apart places are. For instance, Sansa got to the Vale in an episode. Arya and Hound have been trying to get there for much longer. So confusing at times.
Excited for next week, sorry for calling all you *******s the other day in my post
I think we can assume that the shows creators don't like wasting time on air. You only get what, 450 minutes a season, to cover like a thousand+ pages of that old perverts novels. So if you're a show-runner I'd like to assume they aren't going to include dialogue about characters that aren't relevant or that won't pay off at some point whether it's this season or in the future.
A few episodes ago there was a scene with The Hound and Arya where The Big Show basically called Meryn Trant a lousy fighter (they were discussing the flamboyant sword-fighting teacher Arya had). Coupled with the two or more Jamie sword-fighting training montages.
Not too mention why even have Meryn Trant testify at all, surely the evidence was damning enough. OR they could have spent that 60 seconds with testimony from other prominent characters. But instead we get Trant and even a refresher on his history of wrongdoings. He def. got the villian edit this past episode.
Jamie vs. him seems possible. There are a lot of ways to rationalize that fight happening and a reference to Trant in last episode and having him testify in this one. Seems more than coincidental.
Hmmmmm.... Changing my vote to Jamie vs. Meryn instead of Mt. vs. Oberon.
However, all that logic could just as easily be used to suggest the mountain v. oberon battle. There have certainly been more talk of the mountain than Meryn Trant in recent episodes. Who knows.
Yet, I just can't help thinking about Arya's storyline. She wants to kill the Hound and the Mountain. They're brothers. The Hound hates his bro the Mountain too. They're both in the same neck of Westeros too, at least they were (they talked about in the chicken eating scene). I'd have to think bro vs. bro is a better showdown thematically, especially when you factor in Arya and how she wants both dead. Also, lets be real, there is no chance she's getting to the Vale. Poor girl can't catch a break.
Bold prediction: Hound + Arya v. Mountain = Hound loses, Arya on the run alone again or runs into that Band of Brothers again. Mountain vs. Oberon will be in later seasons when Mountain eventually gets back to Kings Landing. Jamie vs. Trant for the trial by combat. Jamie wins and gets his swag back.
Who knows. Obviously we're getting a mountain battle of some sort this season and personally I'd rather see two giants battle and we'd still get to see Jamie fight too.
I think Oberon is too valuable as an outside observer to Kings Landing, his scenes provide a new perspective for the narrative. I think it would be a waste to have him battle the mountain, a slow burn is probably better with his storyline. Unless of course he would beat the Mountain. However, then where does that leave the Hound and Arya, I think they have to run into the Mountain.
My biggest gripe, I don't know where in the world half the characters are in relation to each other or the distance apart places are. For instance, Sansa got to the Vale in an episode. Arya and Hound have been trying to get there for much longer. So confusing at times.
Excited for next week, sorry for calling all you *******s the other day in my post
Also some good points wrt The Mountain and The Hound. It would be weird if we didn't get to seem them settle their dispute, which means either it will happen before the TbC (very unlikely) or The Mountain will win (which will means both Tyrion and Oberyn dies, assuming Oberyn vs The Mountain).
05-13-2014
, 05:31 PM
05-13-2014
, 05:54 PM
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Any spoilers we see ITT are likely to be mild since the mods are keen on cutting at spoilers to such a point that people who are merely good at analyzing plot construction get labeled as bookreaders
Even if the TbC isn't Mountain vs Oberyn, every astute watcher already knows that the duel MUST happen. The writers have foreshadowed it like crazy. It's to the point that the only real reason Oberyn exists in this season is to get vengeance for his sister's rape and murder. Tywin went so far as to explicitly tell Oberyn that he'll get a meeting with Mountain where he can settle this dispute
I suspect there are several TV-only people who don't post speculation because the bookreader-accusers jump on any analysis that isn't half braindead
Even if the TbC isn't Mountain vs Oberyn, every astute watcher already knows that the duel MUST happen. The writers have foreshadowed it like crazy. It's to the point that the only real reason Oberyn exists in this season is to get vengeance for his sister's rape and murder. Tywin went so far as to explicitly tell Oberyn that he'll get a meeting with Mountain where he can settle this dispute
I suspect there are several TV-only people who don't post speculation because the bookreader-accusers jump on any analysis that isn't half braindead
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