the way this show is going, Tyrion being an idiot for years will probably turn into a swerve where backstabs ppl, and it'll all make basically no sense

Kind of amazing when you think about it that we had scenes attempting to establish that 1. Sansa is very smart and 2. Tyrion is a dullard. JLawOK.gif.

Ghost is an albino. I don't think dyeing a real wolf white is an option. I don't know a lot about it but I think even just recoloring it with CGI is expensive (the fur, you can imagine).

dragon riding sucked ass. they should have had liek a 10 seconds when daenerys and/or Jon are surprised that the dragons like him/arent protective and aggressive while the viewer knows its probably cause hes a secret TARG and the dragon kinda nudges him to try and hop on or some **** and then he gets surprised that the dragon actually fookin takes off instead of being LOL HEY JON GET ON THERE AND COME FLY AND HOPEFULLY U DONT DIE HAHAH. Woulda made the scene 10 times better for little effort.

Also genius sansa LMAO


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Am I the only one thinking that Tyrion will be a key player in killing Dany? She's shown that she is a sociopath that feels nothing since dismissing Dario and put that sociopathy into overdrive when it comes to the Tarleys. Then the talk with Sam, she was not very emotional, shame would be the big one trying to explain to the kid of the person you burnt alive.

She is without emotion and is clearly a sociopath that is enslaved by the ego with power being the main drive. She needs to die, and will I'm assuming.

Going to be interesting to see what happens with Dany. I think that's the thing I'm most curious about. The resolution to "who governs Westeros" I think will probably be a bit anticlimactic. What happens with Dany is in a way the real climax of the show, the collision of fire and ice. I certainly expect her to die. She wants the throne, but she can't have it, because she's not first in line to it and it has been repeatedly made clear that she is bad at governing. Wanting the throne is so integral to her character that the only way out of that impasse which makes character sense is for her to die.

How she'll die though? No idea. She might sacrifice herself for Jon, or for the greater good. HE might sacrifice HER for the greater good. Other characters might decide to do away with her.

I find it amusing that viewers/characters feel Dany should care about Tarlys. They were enemy commanders who refused to yield. At least she gave them the option to yield in the first place. The only person who should care about that is Sam.

There are rules in war. Robb didn't summarily execute Lannister prisoners who refused to join his side.

Sansa's arc is clearly supposed to be going from the naive dumb princess to the jaded but practical power broker. She learns stoicism from joffery, cunning from cersei, verbal trickery from tyrion, strategy from little finger and so on, each time further destroying her innocence but forging her into a real power player. However the show just didn't have time to land any of these lessons so now we have to retcon a bit and simply explain how smart she is.

Sam kills Danny?

The Tarly refusing to kneel thing still makes no ****ing sense. He was a Targ loyalist ffs.

A targ loyalist who loathed Cersei, yet ends up protecting her. Nothing about that season made sense. It started 5 episodes too early and needed to create conflict.

Maybe, but I hope that they're intertwined. I'd like to see her break the wheel. She can sacrifice herself or get killed or whatever in the process. Sure, Jon or somebody could just become King, but I'd like to see something different, the seeds of a fledgling democracy or whatever.

I could buy that Sansa learnt cunning, shrewdness, realpolitik from Cersei. But "the smartest person I know"? Gotta call bull**** on that.

When you're a monarch, executing people who won't bend the knee is super duper normal in Westeros. Doing it with dragonfire was a bit out of line (an honorable execution is via beheading). I'm not sure the Tarly execution was even supposed to paint Dany as bad, it just creates conflict between her and Sam.

One thing about Sansa which people might not have seen before: the direwolf pups that the Starks have tend to reflect things about them or about the story. Bran's wolf Summer will probably die in the books when winter arrives. Jon's wolf Ghost probably keeps him alive in the books when he's killed by the Night's Watch. Arya's wolf Nymeria became lost and wild just before Arya herself did. Sansa's was named Lady, and her execution foreshadowed the death of Sansa's dream of being a lady. Sansa is on a loss-of-innocence arc, so her character development should involve her getting a bit smarter, but also more worldly, more cynical, more acquainted with reality. The idea that she's a brain genius now kind of sucks and doesn't really play into her arc. We'll see where it goes.

It's a fair point. This part does at least give me hope that these seeds of discontent were deliberately sown and the dividends will be reaped over the next few episodes.

How many people does Arya really know though? Think about it. Since she left Winterfell when she was 10 or whatever, almost everyone she has come to know is dead. Her only up-to-date impressions of the people she knew before that are from the few weeks she's been back in Winterfell.

Good point, I do think that Sansa is smarter than Gendry or The Hound.

if she looked like emilia clarke

I'm pretty sure Sansa will have a similar "arc" in the books. She will take control of the vale and kill lf. Doing away with 99% of that plot just made her hero's journey from naive girl who believes life is a fairytale to cynical ruler completely disappear. In the show it's a hero's journey with no time spent on the journey itself.

She was naive, but now she's not! We have the starting point and the destination but nothing in between.

I thought Stannis was already coming for the crown before he had been informed of the incest.

I mean, sort of plausible, but the point of the scene wasn't that Arya thinks Sansa is smart. The point was to communicate to us, the viewers, that Sansa is to be considered super smart now. It tied in to the scene with her complaining about rationing for the armies (which was actually dumb but was supposed to sound smart) and the scene with her lording it over Tyrion about how she's smarter than him now.

IIRC, Stannis only asserts his claim after Ned sends him a raven regarding Joffrey being a bastard. The first scene with him is burning on the beach, and then him writing a letter claiming the throne based on all of Robert's kids being bastards.

Ah you are right. Disregard my entire point!