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Jeff Bennett of Maryland, compulsive liar and thief, has now declined arbitration Jeff Bennett of Maryland, compulsive liar and thief, has now declined arbitration

02-02-2014 , 06:50 AM
She shipped me 1400 total

starting stake of 400 + two 500 reloads


We have transferred USD 425.00 from your account to 'SGT RJ' as per your request.
We have transferred USD 250.00 from your account to 'SGT RJ' as per your request.
We have transferred USD 16.49 from your account to 'SGT RJ' as per your request.
We have transferred USD 288.54 from your account to 'SGT RJ' as per your request.
We have transferred USD 500.00 from your account to 'SGT RJ' as per your request.
We have transferred USD 78.31 from your account to 'SGT RJ' as per your request.
We have transferred USD 52.00 from your account to 'SGT RJ' as per your request.
We have transferred USD 1,083.74 from your account to 'SGT RJ' as per your request.
We have transferred USD 150.50 from your account to 'SGT RJ' as per your request.

this is a cluster **** because she didn't just stake me, she staked me to stake other players too and I bought packages in MP with the stake money, as per her request

like i said, she left it up to me to calculate everything. I made a mistake and gave her the wrong ending total, which was actually makeup, the main contributor being that she missed a big payout

if she was in on that payout, then it would have been something like 900, but she missed it

I don't have that many emails from the stake period because we mostly talked on the phone, but my records indicate she finished in profit over 1K. She was allowed to opt out of tournaments and she got unlucky and opted out of one that hit

she totally trusted me to take care of everything and I took care of everything, but when she didn't like the final number she flipped

Last edited by attentionnoone; 02-02-2014 at 06:56 AM.
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02-02-2014 , 07:11 AM
my records show she sent me 1600 total
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02-02-2014 , 07:24 AM
why not just post screenshots (rather than copy/pastes) of your entire transaction history for the period. if as you claim you were staking other players then that will show up in the transaction and can then be compared with the market place threads at that time.
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02-02-2014 , 07:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by attentionnoone
I will pay her the 235 as soon as she drops all claims against me, including the deletion of this thread. I think that's more than fair. I"d have paid her this a long time ago if I thought it would end the matter, but I was sure she was going to do this, so I didn't pay.
Huh?? YOU started this thread - by bumping a thread that was dormant for months.

YOU are the one that has brought this to everyone's attention, especially those of us who had no idea that any of this had happened.

What you say here just doesn't make any sense at all. Other than you're wanting to blame the victim - and just proving to anyone and everyone that you are stealing her money.

PAY HER BACK - IT'S JUST THAT EASY!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Well, I'm hoping on a plane in a couple of hours, so I'll recap where I'm at now. <snippage>
Here's hoping that your hopes come true.

As for "on the plane" - may I humbly suggest that you ride IN the plane! On the plane you'll find it very windy, very cold, and very short on breathable air...

Lee
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02-02-2014 , 07:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by attentionnoone
I'm pretty sure the whole time I had no idea what the amt was until late 2012 and she was already threatening me with "the thread". She was threatening the thread the day after BF IIRC. She wanted to get paid immediately, even without getting a cashout.
This is a lie. I knew we'd all have to wait on PS payouts to get paid, and I was perfectly content to do so. Than after the June email I asked for a payment plan, whatever he could afford.

If I wanted to start a scammer thread, why did I wait this long? Obvious answer is obvious.

Quote:
Originally Posted by attentionnoone
no more personal stuff but yeah, I had a certificate of deposit that she stole for like 2K

don't think personal stuff is relevant though
This is just a bold faced lie. Explain how or when this could have happened.

I already posted our entire transaction history. Your fantasy numbers of a 2.4k profit for the stake is grossly incorrect, as is your "estimate" of how much I had to top you off.

Let's pretend for a moment there is some fantasy universe in which I agreed to his MU scheme. Explain to me why that even matters. I didn't ask him to pay his "MU" out of pocket after BF. I asked him to give it to me from the check he eventually got from PS, which he has already admitted that a) was over $909 and b) he did not give me any money from.

This entire MU discussion is a complete red herring, and we shouldn't be indulging him. He's admitted he owes $900, as I've agreed to drop the disputed extra $50. That's what he owes because he stole the entire amount due me from the PS check.
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02-02-2014 , 07:54 AM
OK guys I think I have this figured out. It's been a long time and it's wierd how things fall into place.

We have transferred USD 500.00 to your account as requested by 'SGT RJ'.
We have transferred USD 500.00 to your account as requested by 'SGT RJ'.
We have transferred USD 400.00 to your account as requested by 'SGT RJ'.

I was transferred 1400 from her total and I sent her back almost 3K

She dropped MTT's just before I hit the 850, that's why I was confused. I thought she had action in that one and she didn't. I realized that later because when I was doing the numbers, I marked down the date in my notes the day she only took STT action.

The stake was weekly up until she opted out of MTTs, which from my emails had to be about 2/21/11, which was 3 days before I binked. That's why I was confused.

From 2/21/11 and on, we had the stake that was outlined above, but only for STTs

That was the confusion. When did she stop staking me for MTTs, because up until then it was just a weekly stake that we were resetting. When she wanted STTs only is when I made the deal with the cashouts.

She changed the deal later too, but it's w/e

she has not made a case against me, she didn't keep any records at all and all she has as evidence is an email where I was mistaken, that's the only evidence she's presented but she's lied numerous times ITT and I'm done with it

All she can talk about is how she wanted my PS check. She wanted that from the beginning, she is trying to extort 900 from me. She let me take care of all the numbers and I'm taking care of it.

I owe her nothing.

Please ban her from MP and de-mod her for the good of the game. She is a cancer.

Last edited by attentionnoone; 02-02-2014 at 08:00 AM.
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02-02-2014 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by KeithMM
why not just post screenshots (rather than copy/pastes) of your entire transaction history for the period. if as you claim you were staking other players then that will show up in the transaction and can then be compared with the market place threads at that time.
this conversation is over, she's said numerous times ITT that she didn't know what she was staking me for, doesn't remember how the MU worked, doesn't remember many details, never kept records, left it to me to both play and manage the stake, and she profited 1.4K off it.

she was going to put this thread up no matter what because she's a fish and she hates winning players, just like most fish do, that's why you can't post in 2p2, it's full of wanna be players that hate the winners

sorry but it's true
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02-02-2014 , 08:31 AM
email stars and ask for a transaction history for the period of your stake . then take a screenshot of the email reply and post it. if there are too many transactions so that you have to scroll , move the last transaction from one screen shot so that it is the top transaction of the next screenshot and then the transaction history can be rebuilt.

Any transfers to other players can then be checked against that players marketplace activity to see if there was a BAP or whatever running and your/sgt rj piece of that stake will be confirmed in the BAP thread that that person was running.

Your withdrawals will then also compare with the profit/loss of your stake with sgt rj and then confirm your version of how cashouts were calculated. I.e if there was a weekly profit of 150$ and the stake was in makeup then you would have chopped 100$ and cashed out 50$ as your share.

Also why does your transaction history differ from sgt rj's?she posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by SGT RJ View Post

475477757 12/4/2010 11:32:58 AM USD -400.00 Unreal_Zeal
479598646 12/13/2010 5:15:12 AM USD 150.50 Unreal_Zeal
483375089 12/20/2010 8:06:35 PM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
487434116 12/29/2010 10:16:28 AM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
493580665 1/10/2011 6:31:01 AM USD 1,083.74 Unreal_Zeal
497173340 1/17/2011 7:10:21 AM USD 52.00 Unreal_Zeal
500287941 1/23/2011 10:31:38 AM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
504539942 1/31/2011 11:20:08 AM USD 78.31 Unreal_Zeal
506188628 2/3/2011 2:21:27 PM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
507442154 2/6/2011 1:21:32 AM USD 500.00 Unreal_Zeal
508040526 2/7/2011 8:32:57 AM USD 288.54 Unreal_Zeal
510826968 2/12/2011 8:46:48 PM USD 212.00 Unreal_Zeal
510827697 2/12/2011 8:47:56 PM USD 16.49 Unreal_Zeal
513679297 2/18/2011 5:23:06 PM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
517224463 2/25/2011 10:42:54 PM USD 250.00 Unreal_Zeal
518298412 2/28/2011 3:00:01 AM USD 425.00 Unreal_Zeal
521214953 3/5/2011 6:28:46 PM USD -485.00 Unreal_Zeal
521928187 3/6/2011 10:43:57 PM USD 49.09 Unreal_Zeal
531517662 3/26/2011 11:25:43 PM USD -200.00 Unreal_Zeal
or splitting what you received/returned
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ View Post
475477757 12/4/2010 11:32:58 AM USD -400.00 Unreal_Zeal
483375089 12/20/2010 8:06:35 PM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
487434116 12/29/2010 10:16:28 AM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
500287941 1/23/2011 10:31:38 AM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
506188628 2/3/2011 2:21:27 PM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
513679297 2/18/2011 5:23:06 PM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
521214953 3/5/2011 6:28:46 PM USD -485.00 Unreal_Zeal
531517662 3/26/2011 11:25:43 PM USD -200.00 Unreal_Zeal
and what you sent back
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ View Post
479598646 12/13/2010 5:15:12 AM USD 150.50 Unreal_Zeal
493580665 1/10/2011 6:31:01 AM USD 1,083.74 Unreal_Zeal
497173340 1/17/2011 7:10:21 AM USD 52.00 Unreal_Zeal
504539942 1/31/2011 11:20:08 AM USD 78.31 Unreal_Zeal
507442154 2/6/2011 1:21:32 AM USD 500.00 Unreal_Zeal
508040526 2/7/2011 8:32:57 AM USD 288.54 Unreal_Zeal
510826968 2/12/2011 8:46:48 PM USD 212.00 Unreal_Zeal
510827697 2/12/2011 8:47:56 PM USD 16.49 Unreal_Zeal
517224463 2/25/2011 10:42:54 PM USD 250.00 Unreal_Zeal
518298412 2/28/2011 3:00:01 AM USD 425.00 Unreal_Zeal
521928187 3/6/2011 10:43:57 PM USD 49.09 Unreal_Zeal
If the split was done as you describe the figure will back you up as you can't go back and reinvent transaction recorded buy stars. if the transactions don't tally with description of how the deal was agreed it would appear that your version of the deal wasn't how the deal operated.
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02-02-2014 , 08:36 AM
I've already posted the entire transaction history. It shows I sent you $3585, and that the you sent me just over $3k. Total stake profit was $420 and change.

I will email the complete unedited transaction history to anyone who wants it. It includes my own SNG stake and MP transactions. Further, I will allow any neutral third party to access my computer via TeamViewer or similar to confirm the emails and transaction history are authentic (minus what I mentioned earlier, which is that I removed non Unreal transactions when I originally posted).

New email incoming.
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02-02-2014 , 08:40 AM
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Nicole
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do you have transaction histories that we can compare? I have emails showing that*you sent me 400 and I sent you back 1800 while the total value of the stake being 2400
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this*doesn't seem like what I got last time, so I might be missing something
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can you check your records? I have you passing me*400 one time, is that right? didn't you ever restake?
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we could have*gone over this with each other before, but when I quoted you the first time, I didn't compute RB and I*had more winning weeks than I thought. It's not easy to calculate, so I was going with a number off the top of my head, but I thought was right until I checked them.
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Tomorrow I'm going to post every transaction between us, but I'm getting that you gave me 400 to*start and never gave me anymore, which I think might be wrong.
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Let's work this thing out amicably, please. Whatever money you owe you are going to get but I honestly think it was all makeup according to our original deal. I know that deal sucked for you kind of but my idea was that I would always honor your makeup in exchange for a bad deal from me, so I'm going to let the*MU stand no matter what if it's determined its MU.
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I'm sorry it's come to this because I know you are my friend. It's possible you are right. I*haven't really had the money, but I can get it immediately if I knew what it was. I have friends who give me instant credit but I only tap them when I absolutely need to. When I did the numbers, it came out to 235 + 665 MU. That's because we were almost on par before I hit a downswing, and you missed something I hit.
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When staking deals end the math is complicated and I didn't know that at the time I told you the number. I think we could have just sat down and talked about it, and it would have been fine. That's on both of us.
*
Please lets work this out. Let SA do the analysis, we will double check the cashouts, and I promise we will get it*worked out.
*
I'm sorry I avoided you for so long but that's what I tend to do in these situations.
*
Sincerely
*
Jeff
I'm going to get my money, he says.

Someone insert a good laughing gif for me.
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02-02-2014 , 08:48 AM
On reread it seems like he might be saying his ex stole the CD, not me. If so I apologize for the confusion/misread.

My story has not changed one iota, Jeff. I may not explain myself perfectly, and you might misread what I've written, but I have never, not once, changed my story.

You, on the other hand....
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02-02-2014 , 08:49 AM
Also you claim to have emails. Post them. Post any communication you have from me.
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02-02-2014 , 08:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SGT RJ
I've already posted the entire transaction history. It shows I sent you $3585, and that the you sent me just over $3k. Total stake profit was $420 and change.

I will email the complete unedited transaction history to anyone who wants it. It includes my own SNG stake and MP transactions. Further, I will allow any neutral third party to access my computer via TeamViewer or similar to confirm the emails and transaction history are authentic (minus what I mentioned earlier, which is that I removed non Unreal transactions when I originally posted).

New email incoming.
I don't have that at all Nicole, I have what I showed you. those are the actual records I used when I checked the numbers. If you can show me where I'm going wrong, then I believe you and I'm sorry.

This looks legit to me, but I simply don't have that as my records. Where do you get it from?

My email records indicate you only sent me 1600. If you sent me more than I do indeed owe you and will pay immediately.

If this is legit I'm using the wrong figures and I owe you money and I'm sorry
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02-02-2014 , 08:59 AM
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email stars and ask for a transaction history for the period of your stake . then take a screenshot of the email reply and post it. if there are too many transactions so that you have to scroll , move the last transaction from one screen shot so that it is the top transaction of the next screenshot and then the transaction history can be rebuilt.
ok I'm doing that now. I think she should be up 1.4K, that's what I've calculated
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02-02-2014 , 09:02 AM
wow I'm sorry because I think you are totally right, I was using my emails to do the analysis and last night I did get the feeling that you sent me more than I thought. I knew there was a 200 that I should have had but I don't have it.
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02-02-2014 , 09:10 AM
Quote:
$3585, and that the you sent me just over $3k. Total stake profit was $420 and change
.

OK. I believe you. I am missing transaction records. Had a feeling I was last night when I didn't see the 200.
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02-02-2014 , 09:15 AM
OK I'm going to pay nicole the 900 ASAP

She's right and I"m wrong. I'm missing transaction records. I used emails and some of them have to be missing.
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02-02-2014 , 09:33 AM
and some apologizes would be nice also
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02-02-2014 , 09:37 AM
yeah I'm really sorry, I don't have the right transaction records and I think RJ is actually owed more than 900 and she was being generous. EGG on face.

I have her up as something like +600 with the transaction records. I'll give her the 900 and figure out the difference and pay her the rest.
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02-02-2014 , 09:45 AM
In fact that changes the whole ball game. I thought the stake made 700 something total, so if those transactions are correct then it's more than 900. I'm going to make good on the full amount. Have a feeling RJ was settling for less the whole time now. I will pay the 900 this week and figure out if she's owed more which is def possible.
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02-02-2014 , 10:10 AM
Nicole, I'm going to post exactly how and when I'm going to pay you when I figure it out later today.

After that I'm going to figure out how much more I owe you. I figured it out before but that was based on my faulty data. I"m sure you are due more than 900, but I'm going to give you the 900 for now and figure the rest out later.
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02-02-2014 , 10:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by attentionnoone
I will pay the 900 this week and FIGURE OUT IF SHE'S OWED MORE WHICH IS DEF POSSIBLE.
A fair bit more amirite?

Long time lurker here. Its late where I am and I'm probably wrong, in which case ill go back to my little hole after this post.

Both of you seem to agree this whole agreement was a bit of a mess, but unless I'm missing something (good chance with me) -

RJ to you - $3585
You to RJ - $3105..17

Difference - $479.83

Sharkscope shows you with a total of $2896 profit through the dates of this stake.

So not only are you $479.83 short on breaking even with RJ's transfers, but you also have $2896 in profit for the same time frame. I know you will say you binked something she wasn't apart of, problem is there is no way to prove this unless you have something. So.....

Do you not owe $3375.83?

Now that some info and numbers are coming to light it seems that all of a sudden you are eager to pay the original amount RJ (and yourself early on in your emails) stated was owed. Could mean nothing, could mean everything.

Obviously your "bink" and the true rebuy amount's throughout the stake will lower the amount..but im sure your getting the gist of it.

I'll run back to my hole and wish you both luck resolving this mess.

Peace

Last edited by justAnobody; 02-02-2014 at 11:02 AM.
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02-02-2014 , 11:01 AM
yeah but she didn't have all of the action, and some of it is MU still, so I owe her 900+ in cash + some amount of makeup

I had 1K as the ballpark number, but when I checked it was something like zero, so it looks like I was missing 500+485 cashouts, which puts it at like 985 or so, which is what nicole said it was from the beginning

seems about right to me
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02-02-2014 , 11:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SGT RJ

475477757 12/4/2010 11:32:58 AM USD -400.00 Unreal_Zeal
479598646 12/13/2010 5:15:12 AM USD 150.50 Unreal_Zeal
483375089 12/20/2010 8:06:35 PM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
487434116 12/29/2010 10:16:28 AM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
493580665 1/10/2011 6:31:01 AM USD 1,083.74 Unreal_Zeal
497173340 1/17/2011 7:10:21 AM USD 52.00 Unreal_Zeal
500287941 1/23/2011 10:31:38 AM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
504539942 1/31/2011 11:20:08 AM USD 78.31 Unreal_Zeal
506188628 2/3/2011 2:21:27 PM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
507442154 2/6/2011 1:21:32 AM USD 500.00 Unreal_Zeal
508040526 2/7/2011 8:32:57 AM USD 288.54 Unreal_Zeal
510826968 2/12/2011 8:46:48 PM USD 212.00 Unreal_Zeal
510827697 2/12/2011 8:47:56 PM USD 16.49 Unreal_Zeal
513679297 2/18/2011 5:23:06 PM USD -500.00 Unreal_Zeal
517224463 2/25/2011 10:42:54 PM USD 250.00 Unreal_Zeal
518298412 2/28/2011 3:00:01 AM USD 425.00 Unreal_Zeal
521214953 3/5/2011 6:28:46 PM USD -485.00 Unreal_Zeal
521928187 3/6/2011 10:43:57 PM USD 49.09 Unreal_Zeal
531517662 3/26/2011 11:25:43 PM USD -200.00 Unreal_Zeal
According to your agreement, the above amounts you sent RJ were profit chops, did you also take the same amounts as your part of the profit chop?

I mean,I dont want to but in too much as I know the a new account holds little weight on forums, but it seems to me you are pulling a fast one, and now you are aware you owe quite a bit more you are happy to get away with it for what RJ original requested.

If anyone takes a deep look in to this I'm sure they will see you owe substantially more than you now agree you owe, for that to happen you would need to post a playing audit and a transaction history (or send them to someone like screamingasian).

Peace
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02-02-2014 , 11:25 AM
OK the official total is $985 that I owe RJ in cash, plus there is still some makeup because the deal we made after she dropped MTTs I had a couple bucks in MU.

Gonna see if I can figure it out. I think less than 100 but I'll figure it out and post
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