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02-02-2014 , 12:05 AM
I don't have it anymore SA. I did it all on a laptop and I lost the laptop.

Just eyeballing the data, what would be a good guess as to MU vs profit?
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02-02-2014 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by attentionnoone on 6/2/11

It's pretty ez to figure out what I owe u. I think it's like 1Kish...
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02-02-2014 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RustyBrooks
It's clear from the PMs and emails posted that you've lied about this particular sum of money several times already.
I'm pretty sure the whole time I had no idea what the amt was until late 2012 and she was already threatening me with "the thread". She was threatening the thread the day after BF IIRC. She wanted to get paid immediately, even without getting a cashout.

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02-02-2014 , 12:10 AM
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It's clear from the PMs and emails posted that you've lied about this particular sum of money several times already. So yeah, you do care enough to lie about it.
well considering someone was about to post defaming and untrue allegations against me, I was willing to say anything to her to hold her off. She's posting a scammer thread about me and has been threatening it since the day after BF. She's just the kind of unsophisticated, unscrupulous ass hole that will free roll makeup. Then she holds my poker career hostage because I can't continue until it's resolved. I'm sitting here in front of a computer screen all day instead of doing what I want to do. 4 days ago she could have had the MU bought out in full.

I tried to tell her from the beginning that some of the profit was probably make up, but she wouldn't accept it, but once I found out what the true % was, I knew I was ****ed. And it wasn't actually easy to figure out like I thought because of the RBs.

I was afraid of this because I knew people would automatically accept her version of events. She's green and can get away with anything.

That doesn't even matter. If you look at the data and even make a rough estimate, it's almost all MU. That she tried to free-roll me for for 3 years.

That's the only thing that matters. How I've handled it sucks but I'm a wimp and should have confronted it head on. She, however is a thief, a liar and a poker scammer.

I lied to her too but she is lying to everyone. She's already lied numerous times ITT. Everything I've said ITT is the truth. Her posting personal emails from me to her is just dirty but it's not evidence. The fact that she's posting personal emails without ever even trying to resolve it with me personally is evidence she should be banned.

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02-02-2014 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by attentionnoone
I don't have it anymore SA. I did it all on a laptop and I lost the laptop.

Just eyeballing the data, what would be a good guess as to MU vs profit?
i wouldn't. i've played my fair share of rebuys and you have too so we know without the data the swing range is in the thousands aka anywhere as far as i know without seeing the data.

what kind of data was it? was it hand histories in pokertracker? a player audit? we can retrieve a list of your play during this time from pokerstars support. for us to be certain about what is true, we'd have to make that information public.
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02-02-2014 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by attentionnoone
That doesn't even matter. If you look at the data and even make a rough estimate, it's almost all MU. That she tried to free-roll me for for 3 years.
Only if we accept your version of the staking deal. So there's no point in looking at the data.

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I lied to her too
So you're admitting that you lied about the money? If not, what is it you lied to her about?

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Her posting personal emails from me to her is just dirty but it's not evidence. The fact that she's posting personal emails without ever even trying to resolve it with me personally is evidence she should be banned.
Do you dispute the contents of any of the emails or PMs she posted? If so, which ones in particular?
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02-02-2014 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by attentionnoone
The whole time I knew exactly what the amount owed was, but I decided to stiff RJ because it was more convenient than paying her back, and I wasn't really playing poker anymore so I wasn't worried about it.

Now that I'm wanting to get staked again, I need to resolve this, but all I have is about $300, so I've been pulling numbers out of my ass hoping she'll accept it and lie to a new backer on my behalf because none of my former backers will vouch for me.
FYP
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02-02-2014 , 12:53 AM
SA, I just remembered that i figured out my avg number of rebuys with my audit.

It was 6.7

I think you can just use that and it will be a good estimate.
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02-02-2014 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
i wouldn't. i've played my fair share of rebuys and you have too so we know without the data the swing range is in the thousands aka anywhere as far as i know without seeing the data.

what kind of data was it? was it hand histories in pokertracker? a player audit? we can retrieve a list of your play during this time from pokerstars support. for us to be certain about what is true, we'd have to make that information public.
a player audit

use 6.7 for all the rebuys. I remember when I crunched the numbers last time that I took that shortcut.

The only thing is that with the L08 RBs, I never rebought. So for those just use 3.
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02-02-2014 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
FYP
Jim: what are you going to say about this if the numbers show I don't owe her anything. I'm not playing poker today because I want to resolve this. This is taking a lot out of my life right now and I'm respecting the process. I've been sitting here for two days answering posts about a microstake stake. Can you withhold any judgment please until it's settled?

I could have started playing a week ago but I notified RJ about a stake so she could get her MU. I could have just disappeared and no one would care. She is the one who brought this about. She could have settled with me two years ago. She could have done the analysis herself like she's supposed to. Instead of looking over the numbers herself, she decided to play the witch hunt game. Does she have any culpability to you at all?

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02-02-2014 , 01:05 AM
So no answers to my questions then?
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02-02-2014 , 01:06 AM
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So you're admitting that you lied about the money? If not, what is it you lied to her about?
I didn't lie about the money. I told her the truth when I found out the descrepancy and she wouldn't accept it. I only tried to hold her off because I didn't want to see a JB scammer thread, which was inevitable. She's too lazy and stupid to do the math herself, so this is her way to check the numbers. She could have just asked someone. She could have taken my word for it. This thread is the lowest form of action she could have taken.
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02-02-2014 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by attentionnoone
I didn't lie about the money. I told her the truth when I found out the descrepancy and she wouldn't accept it. Now here we are.
Come on man. You seem to think that this thread is getting "too complicated" to sort things out but the rest of us have no trouble.

For example:

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and yeah my memory is probably faulty but I probably lied about my GF robbing me coz I was embarassed.

So be it.
That is you, admitting that you lied about your girlfriend stealing the money.
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02-02-2014 , 01:09 AM
Rusty what are you going to say about this when SA finds I don't owe her anything? Would you consider me the victim?
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02-02-2014 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by attentionnoone
Rusty what are you going to say about this when SA finds I don't owe her anything?
Clearly you know that unless we accept your version of the staking deal, this won't ever happen, right? And no one is going to accept that.

You don't have answers to my other questions?
1. which things have you lied about? Be specific
2. do you dispute the emails and PMs that SGT RJ posted? If so, which ones?

If you don't answer, I think it's fair to assume that you do NOT in fact dispute the emails/PMs that RJ posted, and that you agree that the thing that you lied about is the money. Right?
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02-02-2014 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by attentionnoone
no unfortunately that actually happened, all I got after BF was 126 bucks for my FPPs. No merge money. No PS money. Nothing.

it's always women that give me trouble lol
So, uh, you lied about lying? Weird.
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02-02-2014 , 01:13 AM
I mean let's take a step back here. Is there one person who's read this thread that buys your story? (the answer is no - doesn't that seem odd to you at all?)
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02-02-2014 , 01:15 AM
no more personal stuff but yeah, I had a certificate of deposit that she stole for like 2K

don't think personal stuff is relevant though
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02-02-2014 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RustyBrooks
I mean let's take a step back here. Is there one person who's read this thread that buys your story? (the answer is no - doesn't that seem odd to you at all?)
answer my question though, if it's determined I don't owe her anything, am I a victim? I mean I can probably sue her can't I?
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02-02-2014 , 01:17 AM
You don't have answers to my other questions?
1. which things have you lied about? Be specific
2. do you dispute the emails and PMs that SGT RJ posted? If so, which ones?
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02-02-2014 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by attentionnoone
answer my question though, if it's determined I don't owe her anything, am I a victim? I mean I can probably sue her can't I?
Answer mine first.

Is there any way the results come back favorably for you, without accepting your version of the stake terms (the ridiculous fake profit splitting which is actually makeup?)
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02-02-2014 , 01:18 AM
and if it's determined I don't owe her, shouldn't she be infracted for bringing up the charges?
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02-02-2014 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RustyBrooks
Answer mine first.

Is there any way the results come back favorably for you, without accepting your version of the stake terms (the ridiculous fake profit splitting which is actually makeup?)
yes, even then the 900 is wrong without the caveat she's lying about, she glommed onto a guess I made the day after BF and wouldn't look at the numbers. I even told her I had the correct figures and it was too late. She had her thread already written because like I said, she's too lazy and stupid to figure it out on her own, and she has a bully pulpit called 2p2 to use for extortion

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02-02-2014 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RustyBrooks
Answer mine first.
I'm embarrased about what I said or might not have said so I'm not reading them. Not relevant to the analysis.

Now answer mine.
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02-02-2014 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by attentionnoone
yes, even then the 900 is wrong
I have no idea how much you owe her, but "even the 900 is wrong" is way different from "I don't owe her anything". I guess I have to add another one to the list.

1. which things have you lied about? Be specific
2. do you dispute the emails and PMs that SGT RJ posted? If so, which ones?
3. Is there any way the results come back favorably for you, without accepting your version of the stake terms (the ridiculous fake profit splitting which is actually makeup?)
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