Preflop - you saw that the reraiser is 15/4 right? I think AK is at best a 40% dog vs his range despite my blockers and its likely worse. I think at minimum he has AK or JJ+ (I'm 40%). More likely he has QQ or KK+ and possibly AKs (if this is his range I'm in really bad shape). I'm not saying you're wrong, but I have position and I'm not doing well vs his range.

Flop - I liked the idea of bet/3betting the flop better if I had Ah instead of Kh. I didn't like the idea of getting it in on the flop with a 2nd nut draw. Again, I'm not 100% sure this was right, but that was what I was thinking.

Turn - I did call because he is unlikely to call a raise with a hand worse than mine, and we would get it by the river in if I was behind.

River - he bets 44 with ~100 left behind. Any sense in raising here?

Not that I can see.

Preflop, I'm fine with it.

Flop, you should definitely bet. You stand to have a pretty good amount of equity on that flop, but it's going to be hard to actually get paid off if you hit your hand. So bet the flop, maybe fold out black JJ or get the JJh to c/c. I'd be real suprised if he checked a set on that flop, so the only way we're way behind is AhAx.

2nd pair is exactly the kind of thing donks do it with. If you came up with a whole game theory plan vs a specific opponent or something, then maybe this would fit in some tiny percentage of the time, but generally I donk bet strong hands when I think the donk bet is likely to be taken for weakness (strong hand or semi-bluff when I can push with FE + decent equity) or with total air. And still, it's not like donk betting is my usual line with either air or strong hands.

I think you need to think about building a pot on the flop. if he calls, it makes jamming the turn much easier.

4b smallish say to 40 to fold out JJ-, AK sometimes (if he really is that big of a nit) and fold to a five bet. When he calls you, it makes post flop really easy to play and you can get a bet from underpairs by just checking down and playing a smaller pot. A nit shouldn't stack you very often.

If you really think his 3b range is KK+, then just fold pf.

TY for comments on my comments and hand, gentlemen. 2 more little mistakes corrected = more $ for me!

You're insane.

madscientist, results of the K9 hand ?

the good:


i dunno about nl200+ but there is no way anyone playing below nl200 SHOULD NOT be playing anywhere other than FTP. the game selection is infinitely better than stars and the RB thing is arguable.

the tables are faster than even the turbo tables on stars which means more hands/hr which means more RB. theres an auto-reload thing that you can set to reload to 100bbs anytime you get under 100bbs (this is huge).

also there are 90% less short stackers than on stars

the FPP store is a huge ripoff, but you can find people that will actually pay money for items from the store, all you have to do is set it to deliver to their address & they ship you the $.

the bad:

the support is terrible and theres like a minimum 24 hr response time.

i also have no idea how to cash out from FTP.

Checks work wonderfully for me.

Squeezing w TT/99. Am I losing value here, or is this the right thing to do given how tricky it is to play these multiway post flop? JJ I raise for value, yes?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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CO: $19.50
BTN: $64.30
SB: $69.70
Hero (BB): $69.40
UTG: $106.65
MP: $32.10

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with T T
2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, 1 fold, SB calls $1.25, Hero raises to $7, 2 folds

I'll typically call vs a full stack opener, but this is interesting because he is short and you have sb who is 140 BBs deep like you. I like the reraise and of course you need to get it in on basically any flop if shorty comes along. If sb comes along too things get interesting, but you have position on him which is nice. It would really suck if you have 99/TT and shorty called or raised and then sb decided to reraise. At that point reads are huge.

Peru,

I don't like the squeeze against a 40BBer we have a hand that plays very well against this range and horribly against one that shoves over a 3 bet here. I would really not want to put myself in a tough spot and I would be more than happy to c/f a flop with more than 1 over and no draw.

A 40 BB'ers shoving range is typically way behind 99-JJ at this limit. I am thrilled if shorty shoves and sb folds.

He had QJ and the board bricked out.

woooooooosh!

Agreed, squeeze is good most of the time in this sort of spot. Get it in vs. shorty, avoid biggie.

"Click it Back". It's a (ghey IMO) way to say "minraise" that has become fairly standard in the high-stakes forums. CiB battles appear to be the latest trend at high stakes.

As for the hand, whatever. FPS on its face but if you have a read that you are ahead/flipping, there's nothing more to be said.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BB: $93.30
UTG: $66.85
MP: $131.90
Hero (CO): $88.00
BTN: $100.60
SB: $50.25

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with K K
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, 3 folds, MP calls $2

Flop: ($5.75) T 5 7 (2 players)
MP bets $5.75, Hero raises to $15, MP raises to $129.40 all in, Hero calls $70.50 all in


villain is 30/3/1 and i've been running over him all sess. he calls a lot and folds a lot. he's donked before and folded

note we're rather deep

Can someone translate this?

Don't have many hands with PFR/3-bettor, but they seem TAGish and we have no history - BTN took abou ~15 seconds before calling my 4-bet:

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MP: $129.10
CO: $522.10
BTN: $405.30
SB: $81.65
Hero (BB): $505.35
UTG: $285.10

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with A A
2 folds, CO raises to $12, BTN raises to $36, 1 fold, Hero raises to $111, 1 fold, BTN calls $75

Flop: ($236.00) J Q K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $294.30 all in, Hero folds

Jesus, G, that is just disgusting. But seems like about the easiest fold you could ever have with AA on a flop. You can't do anything else I don't think.

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BB: $408.50
UTG: $687.90
Hero (MP): $1121.90
CO: $148.25
BTN: $369.00
SB: $409.00

Pre Flop: Hero is MP with 8 8
UTG raises to $12, Hero calls $12, CO calls $12, 3 folds

Flop: ($42.00) A 8 Q (3 players)
UTG bets $24...

CO is a 60/5 very loose calling tard postfop (will call multiple milking bets with very marginal holdings), but only has 44 BB left on the flop. Villan is 23/15/2 and we are ~170 BB deep on the flop.

Raise or flat flop?

if you play below nl200 it's a leak to play somewhere other than FTP

From my experience, 1/2 and 2/4 at stars if fishier than FTP. Actually, stars has weaker players and FTP has a ton of aggro spewtards. Since I'm an aggro spewtard I can run over the Stars games