saturday splash before changes: over 10k uptop, now 4.3k uptop, and it is scoop

lol

There used to be tons of value in splashing around big times rebuying alot building a stack and wrecking lucky donks that made it deep, that strategy is crippled now.

It's really no surprise that the rake changes crushed high rebuy low 'edge' formats.

Can't believe the $11 deadline sats for the Sunday Warmup and Sunday Million are gone

^yep not cool PS, just not cool
Today they could be one of the biggest satty to SM this year (excеpt some anniversary sats).

There is no WU, and MILL this week, at least formally. We have the SCOOP replacements instead. So what that means is that those sats targeting an MTT that isn't running haven't been deployed. It's up to Bryan and the SCOOP team to decide what sats they want to run.

The WU and MILL being 'special' tournaments this weekend would be even a better reason to have a satellite in this buy-in range. Now the only sats left are either micro rebuy crapshots or 27$+ sats. Frustrating.

Why are the Mini-Starter and Mini-Kickoff reduced guarantees when they both beat their guarantee last week by a wide margin?

Welcome to summer time gtds

I feel ya. I really loved the $11 deep sats that have been running throughout the weeks past, but since SCOOP I haven't played basically any sats . I've never been a fan of Bryan's offerings.

So who does this benefit?

When I started on Stars 4-5 years ago some of the first high guarantee MTT's I played in were the 3x 1.10+r's on the weekend that had a 60K guarantee. They were fun, super popular, and active. As you said, with the rebuy and structure changes these have become a ghost of their former selves. The part I have trouble understanding is why would Stars decimate MTT's that were super popular? Collateral damage? Any basic data mining would show that fields in these must be down 60-80%. That's all rake that Stars is losing now. How does that help them again? And I'm not being sarcastic, I'm really curious. A lot of these changes don't seem to benefit recs, regs, OR Stars.

Can we pls get an answer on the plo and omanias which are destroyed... 16.50 use to have 2.5k gtd and beat it now it barely beat 1.5k common you cant be serious about this 6 max only format ?

How can you profit from this + removing weeklys + the dailys who beatet their gtd in the fixed/mixed this must be one of the most un-thinked changes in poker history.

still would like to see the NLHE community get only 6 max tables? its the same ***** thing!

Im seriously quitting after scoop if there wont be changes you can kiss my 3k/month rake goodbye!

I use to play every single omania i think i played tops 10 since changes ?

Thnx for killing omaha/08.

Seriously mad now this is idiotic.

+10000

and the 82's!!!!!!!!!!!

put reentry 10k and 3 hour late reg i dont care JUST MAKE IT 9 *MAX!*

this is kinda funny for a 5b$ company which use to have a 500k user peak, with no problem at all.

pls hire some more superstars, maybe Messi or maybe ask Zlatan again now that he left PSG?

Wonder how much that KO picture with Neymar was priced at.

more rake and less server capacity pure bu**sh**.

Hey Luke, here's my thoughts on the best few... grander suggestions from the thread.

1) Reintroduction of Cubed tournaments with their own Cubed label. You know... I don't even understand why these formats are popular. To me they are just another name for Deep. But yet, they are. And because they are, there is a great opportunity to create a standardized format that offers something a bit different. With the rake revisions, these formats are no longer bad for Pokerstars, and because of the equal costs of rebuys and addons, they aren't unfair to recs who just toss in one bullet.

As we sit here and try to flesh out the depth of the schedule, having different variations will make the schedule more interesting than having insert random $11fo here across the board. Cubed helps us add more 'normal' tournaments without them all just being the same vanilla.

You don't even need to start out with a grand deployment. Test out 2 or 3 in spots across the day. Here's a few spots perhaps:

5:10 $11 Cubed
7:20 $5 Cubed
10:15 $2 Cubed
14:35 $1 Cubed
20:35 $5 Cubed

2) Reintroduction of the Sunday 6max OR introduce the Sunday Scuffle. There isn't a lot to say here. Sunday can support a major 6max event and there is a weakness in the offerings after the Big 215. Either of these options would nicely fill that space out.

3) Consideration and deployment of payout suggestions as outlined in satellite84's post. You said you were contemplating multiple payout tables and there you go.

The idea is simple. Larger payouts in events like BIGs, Majors, COOPS. Flatter payouts in formats like turbos, hypers, and quick side mtts.

The idea I feel one of those ideas that is great for Stars and great for players. By revising payouts for specifically large, slow fields, you can bring back the excitement of big first place payouts. Part of the job of MTT's is to get peopled logged on and into the Stars client, right? Dreaming of the big payday has always been one of the strongest draws in the gambling business.

But, by keeping current, more diffused payouts for all the of the faster formats, you keep the money circulating through the system as you want. You still get players winning more often and less players feeling like they never win.

I think drafting multiple payout structures based on prestige and speed of the tournament is a great alteration for all parties.

Cheers

And also

1) Reduce the no. of ante up tourneys

2) Bring back hu tourneys, ultra deep stack tourneys

3) Friday special zoom tourneys - Have them zoom only for first couple of hours or till bubble is bursted and resume normal play once we are itm

Wow Doggz

the super sized sunday still has 100k guarantee....i just dont get it !

15k players, each paying 10c in rake.
2k players, each paying 80c in rake.

Which is best?

yeah, this is what I wanted to mention as well. However, for how long? a quarter?

Fewer

Are you really testing a tournament that pays 23-25%?! Are you out of your mind? Jesus christ.

+ fix omania payouts.
they are 6max but 6+7 place get the same $$