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04-28-2016 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by kaytor
how about REVERTING ALL TOURNAMENTS TO THEIR BLIND STRUCTURES OF 4 DAYS AGO ?

is that useful feedback and possible to accomplish ?
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04-28-2016 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by kaytor
how about REVERTING ALL TOURNAMENTS TO THEIR BLIND STRUCTURES OF 4 DAYS AGO ?

is that useful feedback and possible to accomplish ?

Please don't. New BB structures are amazing, hypers also a big improvement. Just tweaking the big structures would make most people happy.
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04-28-2016 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Sunday 6 max (old time slot) - $162
Sunday second chance (old time slot)- $215
BIGGER 162 in old time slot - $162
Sunday rebuy (same lot as current $33 Sunday rebuy) - $109+

Just don't see how the sonic makes the cut but all of these legendary tournaments die. Well I can see why of course but I find it absurd these tournaments ARE pokerstars, or they were.
To be fair, you got back the big 215$ in the 162 slot which is very similar, and a 700 psko near the 100r slot which is also pretty similar in buyin. There's a 109$ 6max 25mins after the old slot also. I know it's not exactly like it was before, but with 2 extra 1ks and the 320 6max to compensate for the second chance/s500, or the 109$ wrap up if you play that late, I don't think the new schedule is worse than the old one on sunday.
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04-28-2016 , 08:00 AM
new schedule is flooded with hypers and 6max, v annoying:

from like 4x highstakes mtts/sess i went to 3 on a special day
~30 midstakes-> 14
~20 lowstakes-> 5(?) and like 3 of them are rebuys which i prolly shouldnt play

i used to play ~120 mtts (and sats)/sess on ur site, now im regged for 32 (prob lateregging 10-15) over a 9hour timewindow, pretty pathetic if u ask me...

will cut down my volume on stars even further...

brb installing some bowlsites to make up for the lost volume

very disapointed w ur recent ("exciting") changes
also rip hot 75

Last edited by mo3rtelmu; 04-28-2016 at 08:06 AM.
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04-28-2016 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mi$terMJ
Please don't. New BB structures are amazing, hypers also a big improvement. Just tweaking the big structures would make most people happy.
what are u smoking buddy? structures in BB are pretty much the same until its gets to last 3 tables. then it becomes complete crapshoot around 20bb eff. got 4th in bb and 3rd in big so i know what im talking about. in big we were 15b deep 3handed, its worse than a fkng hot!!!

pre changes both structures were way better. cant talk about hypers since im not playing them at all since the rake changes cuz FU stars.
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04-28-2016 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mo3rtelmu
new schedule is flooded with hypers and 6max, v annoying:

from like 4x highstakes mtts/sess i went to 3 on a special day
~30 midstakes-> 14
~20 lowstakes-> 5(?) and like 3 of them are rebuys which i prolly shouldnt play

i used to play ~120 mtts (and sats)/sess on ur site, now im regged for 32 (prob lateregging 10-15) over a 9hour timewindow, pretty pathetic if u ask me...

will cut down my volume on stars even further...

brb installing some bowlsites to make up for the lost volume

very disapointed w ur recent ("exciting") changes
also rip hot 75
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04-28-2016 , 08:31 AM
I don't understand why making the Bigs so quick. I mean absolutely no rec will say, looking at the 1st prize of 10k$+ "Oh gosh! I will be late to my ****ty job! Please hurry up, I will miss the bus!!" When a rec wins 10K+, he will take a vacation. I mean he doesn't play to win 10K so he can then go back to work like usual.
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04-28-2016 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MuleMuncher
I echo the thoughts of most of the other Omaha Hi Lo regs, this 6 max business on all games is a torturious idea. The games have devolved into a flipfest even worse than before.

Please make atleast 50% and the omanias 9 max again. I play for fun and an i'm old man, I can now only play 1-2 games at once due to the extra concentration required to chase every chip at the 6 max table. I will quit O8 completely and focus on horse and micro buyins now instead. I am not interested in being a rat on a 6 max wheel.

Same for courchevel high and hi lo, 5 card omaha, all ruined.

The structure in the splash games was insanely bad after addon.

The structure seems ok, the schedule is ok for low stake player such as myself but the 6max has ruined any enjoyment i had playing 4 tables at once, you'll be getting half the rake u got from me and I go back to 2.20, 1.10c and the daily $27 horse.

If I play 6 max 08 im only interested in playing hypers so the 3.30 KO hypers are a welcome addition.

I played yesterday all 6 max and every game was just a moronic shove fest.

Thanks for ruining any enjoyment I had playing this game.
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04-28-2016 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bambookoo
I have some suggestions too, based also on other peoples' comments:
- The 19:45EET 11$ Deep Stack. Full of recreational players and fun to play from time to time. Worth bringing back.
- The 20:45EET 6Max ProgKO should be either 9Max or regular speed. Preferably both.
- The 3$ 8Max @21:10EET should be back to the 3$ rebuy format that was previously @21:30EET. Would have a greater succes than this one.
- The HOT2,2@21:15EET could be increased to 7,5$ or a mini-version of the HOT55.
- The 16,5$@21:20EET should be 8Max at least. There are 4 6Max tourneys in the course of 1 hour and as I saw in previous comments, other people also think this to be exaggerated.
- The 22$3Stack @22:10EET should definitely be regular speed FO. You're beating a dead horse with this format.
- Between 22:10 and 23:EET maybe replace the ZOOM with a rebuy or regular speed KO 13,5$(pretty popular format and used to have massive fields in sundays with attractive 1st prize).
Again I want to add that there are too many 6mag Prog KO tourneys, even TURBO sometimes. I understand the appetite for such tourneys, but I personally believe they should be either turbo or 6Max. Also, having 10% rake to this format is insane. Its hard to multitable such formats and you will please a lot of regulars by making this minor change. But who cares about regulars, right? I actually feel they should pay no rake since their money seem to not be worth the same as anybody else.
I will come back with other suggestions.
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Originally Posted by Bambookoo
I have just opened up the Stars software and manually counted all the tournaments NL-Holdem up to 10hours ahead and these are the numbers:
2$-10$: 37 tournaments PLUS NUMEROUS timebombs;
11$-30$: 28 tournaments INCLUDING NUMEROUS 6Max TURBOS, PKOS (sometimes all together!)
31$-500$: 42 tournaments, most of them MUCH BETTER than any 11-30.
So yeah. Put more tournaments in the 11$-30$ range with LESS 6MAX AND TURBO, spreaded around nicely around the timetable. THANK YOU!
I have to quote myself until these issues get adressed by somebody as they are somehow popular requests, especially the 6MAX thing, which annoys a lot of people.
@asj - you see? I spoke nicely, I think. I even said thank you!
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04-28-2016 , 08:51 AM
I'm under the assumption that better structures will be rolled out on Monday after reading Luke's post

please one timeee don't let me be wrong
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04-28-2016 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by alex21
- bring back nightly 162 - you can change it to 109 to be different from BB 162
- bring back nightly 55 or replace big 4.4 at 22 ET with big 55 / big 44
- i would like a regular speed KO -non progressive tournament at 55$( 27.28+ 25 +2.72) or 44$(21.82 +20 +2.18) --between 18- 22 ET.
-add more vanilla at 22-55$ price range- people need low variance games , not everything must be special with 1000+ players.
Big +1. The nightlies always did well and there are now zero regspeed freezeouts above a $33 from the $109 at ~10.30pm gmt until the big 82 at 7am, like a 9hr window? This doesn't seem right to me. And not many 11-33s either. I don't mind the addition of pskos etc to the schedule but replacing ALL the good midstakes+ vanilla freezeouts seems excessive. Give us at least a big 109 or big 55 (both would be great!), 2am-5am gmt (9pm-12am et I think) seems like a good window to fit both in.


Also +1 to improvement of the structures in the bigs and bounty builders, <20bb avg is very poor.
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04-28-2016 , 08:57 AM
Luke, I think myself and other posters would feel more satisfied with this thread if there was more feedback from you(reps) in general. I won't speculate on how big a part of your job duties this thread is, but the 888 and Party(especially) feedback threads see their reps respond to almost every post, question or idea in the thread with great turnaround time. I understand that this thread has more traffic, but I would feel confident in saying neither 888 or Party have the resources that PokerStars have and as a company, you guys could be doing a lot better in this area. In terms of productivity of all three threads, I believe PokerStars performs the weakest and I believe this is why. Considering PokerStars strives to provide the ultimate poker experience, I find it strange that I'm typing this.
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04-28-2016 , 08:57 AM
Big 55, which is in my opinion the flagship of daily tournaments online, almost overlayed yesterday. And it has a measly 70k guarentee. If Amaya is trying to kill the bigs with those changes = mission accomplished.

Can't say I'm surprised. Yesterday I registered for 12 hours on three sites and chose only one big (big 55). I like to play tournaments that has good structures. These were my selection yesterday:

Early Battle Royale
$109 12k gtd
Bounty Builder $215
Bounty Builder $44
PSKO 6max $55
Battle Royale $215
Bounty Builder $33
Big 55
6max PSKO $109
Bounty Builder $55
6max 10k gtd $109
6max PSKO turbo $82

On 888 I played Twister, Lightning, Breeze, Crocodile, Monsoon, Wednesday challenge, Tornado, Hurricane and Fiesta

That's nine tournaments on 888 and twelve on Pokerstars. Five on Partypoker.

Before the changes, about 75% of my tournaments were on Pokerstars. Big 109 and Big 162 were in my everyday routine but with new the new structures these tournaments just have way too much variance. I considered Big 22 but not enough table space and it's much more enjoyable to play the Breeze and Monsoon on 888 and those $109s on Party.

I like the addtitions of $109 10k and 12k gtd because their structure is actually decent but the two hour late reg is way too much. Yesterday in the 10k gtd six max, there were about 120 runners and when late reg was just about closing, there were about 30 people left and 18 got paid. This is unacceptable. I probably should keep quit about this but there are some people who will try to exploit that. It's not fun when 20 people late reg at the last minute and it creates a boring tournament when half of the people left have 10 bbs.

I almost wished Amaya would've upped the rake accross the board instead of this.
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04-28-2016 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gregz41
Luke, I think myself and other posters would feel more satisfied with this thread if there was more feedback from you(reps) in general. I won't speculate on how big a part of your job duties this thread is, but the 888 and Party(especially) feedback threads see their reps respond to almost every post, question or idea in the thread. I understand that this thread has more traffic, but I would feel confident in saying neither 888 or Party have the resources that PokerStars have and as a company, you guys could be doing a lot better in this area. In terms of productivity of all three threads, I believe PokerStars performs the weakest and I believe this is why. Considering PokerStars strives to provide the ultimate poker experience, I find it strange that I'm typing this.
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04-28-2016 , 09:31 AM
To be honest this is just walls of text for AmayaStars.
They have ZERO interest to make ps better place for regs,this is the perfect way to get rid of us and ''feed their ecosystem'' --just one step closer to their master plan.

We should not blame Luke for anything here but it is very obviously he is just Amaya's errand boy and lets hope I'm wrong but thing with pokerstars going to be only worse and worse,they lost all credibility in my eyes.
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04-28-2016 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jaggalo1231
what are u smoking buddy? structures in BB are pretty much the same until its gets to last 3 tables. then it becomes complete crapshoot around 20bb eff. got 4th in bb and 3rd in big so i know what im talking about. in big we were 15b deep 3handed, its worse than a fkng hot!!!

pre changes both structures were way better. cant talk about hypers since im not playing them at all since the rake changes cuz FU stars.
Nice brag.

However played a BB ft myself the other day and with 3-handed still had 150bb in play, around 200 with 4-handed. Clearly a small sample but imo thats pretty good, how many people actually want to play 80+bb deep poker at a ft? That's just a massive anti-climax and quite boring ESPECIALLY in a psko.

If they make bigs really deep that's absolutely fine and reasonable imo, but I know for a fact that many people find really deep psko's boring as hell.
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04-28-2016 , 09:43 AM
Just realize Hot's rake is also 10%. Really Amaya? 10% rake on a glorified hyper?
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04-28-2016 , 09:47 AM
wasnt bragging, just stating facts that both bigs and bounty builders were around 20bb deep shorthanded... the one u were at had stacks similar as they were pre changes, which is obviously perfect
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04-28-2016 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jaggalo1231
wasnt bragging, just stating facts that both bigs and bounty builders were around 20bb deep shorthanded... the one u were at had stacks similar as they were pre changes, which is obviously perfect
From my (small) experience they were annoyingly deep in the late stages. Sure regs love to play 100bb's deep, but in most deepstacks you always see recs complaining about wanting to go to bed etc.

Obviously this is different for higher stakes with nice prizes on top, which is why I think higher stakes should equal slower levels.
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04-28-2016 , 09:53 AM
Why ur making all splash satellites/tournaments more EV- for us for for you?
-increase splash satellites BI's - bigger buy-in is equal to more entrances in the price pool, bigger price pool in the direct tournament, more rake for you from satellites and from MTT. I think it would be nice to bring back $7.5 spalsh satellites to thrill and increase super tuesday spalsh satellites up to ~$11 (3x-turbo).
- it would be nice if you will increase satellites BI's also for SCOOP satellites.
- You need players to cover the GTD price pools, we need more entrances in the price pools. I think you shouldn't have splash (3x-turbo) satellites with multiper 200+ (like $5.50 splash to SCOOP ME). IMHO 3x-turbo satellites shouldn't have multiper higher than 150. All of them, with multiper above 150, should be 4x-turbo. (So for SCOOP ME, $7.5 for 3x-turbo and $5.50 or $4.40 for 4x-turbo)
- bring back 3x-turbo satellites blind levels - u can make it even more shallow, like 16k BB after add-on period, but not 10k, 12k was perfect. Now price pools are much much lower. Like I said it before, it's bad for us ($) and for you ($$$$$$)
- please, bring back splash tournaments with the same structure as the satellites. Now (3k BB after add-on period) the price pools are to low.


Seriously, first you set the rake for add-ons and re-buys which was bad for us but good for you and then ur decreasing buy-ins which is also bad for us but also very very unprofitable for you. I really don't understand...



BIGGER BUY-IN IS THE ANSWER.
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04-28-2016 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ThatsMySpot
Just realize Hot's rake is also 10%. Really Amaya? 10% rake on a glorified hyper?
Turbo MTT rake has been 10% since the beginning of time. It's never been lower. Would every person in this thread wish it was lower? **** YES WE ALL WANT LOWER RAKE! TEN PERCENT RAKE IS TOO ****ING HIGH FOR TURBO MTTS. Are we going to get lower turbo rake? Seems unlikely.

but calling them hypers is just ridiculous.
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04-28-2016 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Top Pig
why have they stopped most of the 4max shootout sng sats to tons of mtts that I now can't play?
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Originally Posted by SleazyP84
I think they still exist, they just don't show up properly on the software just now. I noticed they didn't show up when I filtered for sats teh other day int eh SnG tab but if I chose all they appears. I was only looking at the 0-$3 range though so it may be different higher up the buyins.
Not the case. Sats aren't showing up in teh MTT lobbies themselves, ie u open the $82 6m hyper or $55 turbo, whatever game (hundreds of them) and it shows the available sats to those tournaments. There aren't any at all now. Millions of those games went off

Also, in my client why are non turbo games showing up in the turbo tab?
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04-28-2016 , 10:03 AM
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04-28-2016 , 10:08 AM
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Also, in my client why are non turbo games showing up in the turbo tab?
DUCY?
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04-28-2016 , 10:18 AM
So many useless RIP Stars posts ITT. As if the 7 of you moving your $22 freezeout volume to other sites is going to bring down Amaya. Also as if you will be able to resist clicking register on Stars after about three days of trying to avoid doing so.
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