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04-27-2016 , 11:33 PM
watch a stars rep never ever reply to this..what a joke

I'd just like to know what the reasoning is for axing all these successful o8 and mix games mtts...
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04-27-2016 , 11:34 PM
nobody ever said the initial schedule released would be perfect.

the things that need to be fixed will be fixed if you offer honest, considerate, positive feedback. Here is an example

Hello Luke
Adding an additional level every X levels after Y levels have passed would make the average stack deeper late game in the "big" tournaments
I don't know the optimal figures for X and Y but they should be pretty easy to solve
Thanks

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04-27-2016 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
the feedback is negative because your vocabulary is so limited you don't understand how to communicate ideas without coming across as an ignorant fool.
can we vote to demod you since at time you talk about positivity yet others you come across as negative, and have seem to lost touch within your soul, or atleast your soul for the community in general
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04-27-2016 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gil3000


This is the BIG FIFTY FIVE, not a hyper turbo. Please sort the structures out
Absolute joke. Needs to be fixed ASAP. With so much planning having gone into the new sched one must assume this wasn't just a mistake, why did you think this would be good?
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04-27-2016 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
the things that need to be fixed will be fixed if you offer honest, considerate, positive feedback.
With all due respect, I honestly think that anyone who believes this to be true is delusional. Regardless of whether the replies in this topic are sensible and constructive or harsh and aggressive, the outcome of the situation is not going to change. Amaya made up their minds a long time ago and nothing we say here is going to change that. I wouldn't be surprised if Pokerstars is virtually dead within a few years, possibly even the entirety of online poker.
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04-27-2016 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaylee18
First of all, even if my post is written poorly in your eyes, its quite funny that you are posting more negativity itt.

Secondly, you call me a dolt? Haha, who are you? You are a nobody and you are coming in spouting your negative toxic mouth in an environment where it is not really welcome.

Thirdly, if i was luke id rather read a 5th grade level post that is full of positive feedback, than a post that is written by some nerdy ****wit grammar policing idiot that is full of negativity.

Also you point out the fact you seem to know how a business is run? Guess what, Luke doesnt run pokerstars he works for them, any changes that are made to the schedule that he puts forward earns him no extra payment so therefore he is not trying to make more money for pokerstars, he is just fulfilling the job title he has been assigned to.

Last but not least, im a pretty reputable member of the community, some people hate me, some people love me, sort of like a king really, ya know? So yeah theres 0% chance i can be a shill as you call it, and i have many other reputable people that will also confirm this.
Who are you anyway? You are some random cretin thats just crawled out of some cave and shouting his mouth out like hes Dwayne Johnson or something, pretty hilarious.

Mods need to clean this trash of an idiot up and give him a little timeout, give him some time to think about how he approaches a volatile situation.
I am so, so sorry. I didn't realize that being positive was actually sarcastically telling everyone to imagine what would happen if they collectively pooled their brain cells together to properly address Luke with non pathetic responses in order to affect change.

Had I known that you were a super high ranking 2+2 celebrity general that can just call upon mods to ban "idiots" at will, I would have self censored and respected your position in the community.

I am so, so regretful that I have stepped out of my place. I just need to pool some more brain cells together with these other plebe posters so I can learn to properly address my betters. HAIL TO THE KING!

EDIT: Did not know that Luke did not run Pokerstars. Thought for sure he was top cheese. SIR, thank you SIR for educating this recruit!

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04-27-2016 , 11:44 PM
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With all due respect, I honestly think that anyone who believes this to be true is delusional. Regardless of whether the replies in this topic are sensible and constructive or harsh and aggressive, the outcome of the situation is not going to change. Amaya made up their minds a long time ago and nothing we say here is going to change that. I wouldn't be surprised if Pokerstars is virtually dead within a few years, possibly even the entirety of online poker.
If that's true then I will apologize. I still have faith in the process of bureaucracy. Sociology/economics/psychology. These topics will help.
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04-27-2016 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 26sk8er
can we vote to demod you since at time you talk about positivity yet others you come across as negative, and have seem to lost touch within your soul, or atleast your soul for the community in general
it is hard to remain positive with all this negativity around. that is why i choose to provide my feedback in PM.
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04-28-2016 , 12:00 AM
is a stars rep gonna come and say why they have deleted almost every good non nlhe mtt from the sched.

the weeklies are being smashed...

someone from stars has to say something
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04-28-2016 , 12:01 AM
offer some advice on how to improve the schedule
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04-28-2016 , 12:02 AM
pretend i am from stars if you have to.

Last edited by Asjbaaaf; 04-28-2016 at 12:02 AM. Reason: i will happily relay if it is useful..
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04-28-2016 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Free99
I am so, so sorry. I didn't realize that being positive was actually sarcastically telling everyone to imagine what would happen if they collectively pooled their brain cells together to properly address Luke with non pathetic responses in order to affect change.

Had I known that you were a super high ranking 2+2 celebrity general that can just call upon mods to ban "idiots" at will, I would have self censored and respected your position in the community.

I am so, so regretful that I have stepped out of my place. I just need to pool some more brain cells together with these other plebe posters so I can learn to properly address my betters. HAIL TO THE KING!

EDIT: Did not know that Luke did not run Pokerstars. Thought for sure he was top cheese. SIR, thank you SIR for educating this recruit!
Im not high ranking celebrity whatsoever, and i never called anyone to be banned, if i recall i said to be timed out. and you best believe it, hail the king, i like that one, cheers! And as for your edit, you are very welcome, sometimes its hard to educate the brain dead its a tough job but someone has to do it.

And in response to the recent posts, some good posts some bad ones, just remember when you are posting about something that you feel is incorrect or bad, post the reason why you think it is incorrect/bad and then post what changes need to be made to rectify this situation with some good evidence in why your ideas/suggestions will fix the issues at hand and im pretty sure these will be addressed.
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04-28-2016 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaylee18
just remember when you are posting about something that you feel is incorrect or bad, post the reason why you think it is incorrect/bad and then post what changes need to be made to rectify this situation with some good evidence in why your ideas/suggestions will fix the issues at hand and im pretty sure these will be addressed.
nicely put
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04-28-2016 , 12:14 AM
From reading this thread and gathering my thoughts, here are my suggestions which I think reflect to a large extent the consensus in this thread.

1. Fix the structure of regspeed mtts in line of most suggestions here.

2. Change the payouts to reflect the old more top-heavy format. I should add that there is an element that you haven't thought of in this area. Changing the payout structure will cause undue burden for some while benefiting others.

For example, player A has been running bad the past couple of years, while player B has been running hot. Both players have the exact skill level and their run good is about to get reversed. With your changes, you disadvantage player A who will earn less money thanks to flatter payouts, while benefiting player B who will earn more money during his run bad period than he otherwise would.

In tournament poker skill takes a lot of time to materialize and important rules such as payout structure shouldn't be changed so easily.

3. Add more tournaments at the lower end of the spectrum, let's say in the $2-$30 range.

4. Turn some 6 max into 9 max hypers. If you love the 6 max so much, add some 9 max.

5. Should you turn the effective semi-turbos into regspeed tournaments, please don't forget to cover the demand for actual turbos.

Thank you.
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04-28-2016 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaylee18
In all honesty i bet they just read the start of posts and if it comes off negative just skip the thread entirely
This.
And people wonder why site reps eventually stop paying attention to these threads.
So much crap gets said, with people going off @ each other it loses its purpose. Send pm's if you want to berate each other.

By clogging up this thread your actually doing the whole community a disservice.
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04-28-2016 , 12:32 AM
yeah i honestly agree. i have no idea whether it is true but it wouldn't surprise me if luke stops reading some posts after the first word or 2 because there is just no point reading further.

just offer positive changes that are possible and if they're possible they could happen.

possibilities have probabilities.
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04-28-2016 , 12:34 AM
R.I.P. Pokerstars, it was a good run.
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04-28-2016 , 12:36 AM
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Im not high ranking celebrity whatsoever, and i never called anyone to be banned, if i recall i said to be timed out. and you best believe it, hail the king, i like that one, cheers! And as for your edit, you are very welcome, sometimes its hard to educate the brain dead its a tough job but someone has to do it.

And in response to the recent posts, some good posts some bad ones, just remember when you are posting about something that you feel is incorrect or bad, post the reason why you think it is incorrect/bad and then post what changes need to be made to rectify this situation with some good evidence in why your ideas/suggestions will fix the issues at hand and im pretty sure these will be addressed.
Now you concede that there are some good posts. What a laughable double speaking joke. You champion yourself on being soooo positive; a true social justice warrior against negativity while totally ignoring the good posts that exist itt that express exactly what the issues are.

Obviously you don't focus on the constructive posts. You just "skim" then you interject your own negative response by implying that posts you "skimmed over" are "pathetic" and the people complaining need to collectively pool their limited brain cells together and use their imagination to properly address the company that has a known history of deception and arguably stealing from their player base.

And these semantics? You have to be totally kidding yourself and I doubt you are much older than your ABI on stars. OF COURSE You didn't call for a ban, just a temporary one. Still calling for censorship and imo is 100% puss mode. 100% pure puss. You don't like what someone says so you call for your buddies to ban. LMFAO. How is this even real?

You say are not a high ranking 2+2 celebrity general, but you are someone that brags without being prompted about their relevance in the "community" who casually refers to themselves as a king. You preach less negativity while telling your subjects to rub their brain cells together in a thread you have not even read. You won't even address things that are written, just change subjects and exalt yourself while putting others down. SUPER POSITIVE! Pull rank, call for censorship, deny both. Promote a positive delivery in an absolutely negative message. You are a contradiction. You only respond to what you want to, because having to confront your own fallacies is unbecoming behavior from someone with such narcissistic traits. Expecting you to understand why you are actually doing everything you are complaining about is like expecting the tide not to come in tonight.
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04-28-2016 , 12:41 AM
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Now you concede that there are some good posts. What a laughable double speaking joke. You champion yourself on being soooo positive; a true social justice warrior against negativity while totally ignoring the good posts that exist itt that express exactly what the issues are.

Obviously you don't focus on the constructive posts. You just "skim" then you interject your own negative response by implying that posts you "skimmed over" are "pathetic" and the people complaining need to collectively pool their limited brain cells together and use their imagination to properly address the company that has a known history of deception and arguably stealing from their player base.

And these semantics? You have to be totally kidding yourself and I doubt you are much older than your ABI on stars. No wonder I have never heard of you. OF COURSE You didn't call for a ban, just a temporary one. Still calling for censorship and imo is 100% puss mode. 100% pure puss. You don't like what someone says so you call for your buddies to ban. LMFAO. How is this even real?

You say are not a high ranking 2+2 celebrity general, but you are someone that brags without being prompted about their relevance in the "community" who casually refers to themselves as a king. You preach less negativity while telling your subjects to rub their brain cells together in a thread you have not even read. You won't even address things that are written, just change subjects and exalt yourself while putting others down. SUPER POSITIVE! Pull rank, call for censorship, deny both. Promote a positive delivery in an absolutely negative message. You are a contradiction. You only respond to what you want to, because having to confront your own fallacies is unbecoming behavior from someone with such narcissistic traits. Expecting you to understand why you are actually everything you are complaining about is like expecting the tide not to come in tonight.
You do realize you are making yourself look like a clown? You called me out for being a pokerstars shill? what in the actual ****? Just for passing comment on how a thread of this nature should be ran? And then i respond to your accusation with some evidence that i am not a Pokerstars shill and then you call me out on that also?

anyway this will be the last post i will be making directly towards you because this is causing quite the derail to the thread, so kindly just wind that neck in and get on with doing something productive. Thanks.
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04-28-2016 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by yeahm8
With all due respect, I honestly think that anyone who believes this to be true is delusional. Regardless of whether the replies in this topic are sensible and constructive or harsh and aggressive, the outcome of the situation is not going to change. Amaya made up their minds a long time ago and nothing we say here is going to change that. I wouldn't be surprised if Pokerstars is virtually dead within a few years, possibly even the entirety of online poker.
+1 to this.

Why on earth would a rational mind think that Pokerstars is interested in anything but raising their margins considering the last dozen changes made?

Why not be negative if that's what you see? The negativity isn't based on personal feelings... it's based on the product or offering. These changes taken as a whole aren't good for many on here so the people that helped with this schedule should try and detach themselves from their effort that they put into this and see it for what it is. Which is a sped up schedule craftily designed to lower the win rates of players and increase margins for Pokerstars.
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04-28-2016 , 12:54 AM
negativity only creates negativity.

silence only creates silence.

positivity can create anything.
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04-28-2016 , 01:05 AM
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You do realize you are making yourself look like a clown? You called me out for being a pokerstars shill? what in the actual ****? Just for passing comment on how a thread of this nature should be ran? And then i respond to your accusation with some evidence that i am not a Pokerstars shill and then you call me out on that also?

anyway this will be the last post i will be making directly towards you because this is causing quite the derail to the thread, so kindly just wind that neck in and get on with doing something productive. Thanks.
Not trying to derail. I think the sentiment of your original post is absurd, negative, and counter productive.

IMO Stars deserves a *ton* of negative feedback for these decisions and if you would just use a few brain cells like you ask of others, (insulting isn't it?) you would understand that things are not going to get better, they are going to get worse. This is the new business model which will hurt your bottom line and the ecosystem as a whole. More variance, more rake, more turnover, edge crushing, that is the business model. You came here with a negative message to other posters who you claim to sympathize with in one breath, then call stupid in the next, then tell them to just be positive and ask for things nicely. It struck a nerve.

I use the term shillfish as hyperbole, a semi joke. Surely based on your own rhetoric you understand this since you call yourself a king and whatnot. I never called you a shill for pokerstars, but you are def drinking the koolaid because they are out to stick it so, so, so far up your bum and here you are, half backing them up. You are self admitted in league with mods and a self proclaimed king in the community, so clearly you are bias on that end as well, so I don't even think my hyperbole is that far off base. Why so defensive and bias for the company that is out to crush your bottom line as a mid stakes reg?

Would have not even snapped off but this hypocrisy of "don't be so negative" while being unbelievably condescending just struck a nerve. I think all of the solutions are right here ITT in plenty of non negative posts, but here you are telling the brain dead plebes to ask the multi billion dollar conglomerate NICELY why they are absolutely trashing a brand with over a decade of great history and service. Just don't get it man.

I apologize for calling you a dolt, and encourage you set an example of what it means to be positive since that's what you are asking for. I will even concede to you that the best approach is always going to be a positive, polite one. I don't think anyone could disagree with that (unless you are making decisions for a multi billion dollar cut throat company of course.) However, even you admit in your post that you can understand why people are upset, so why imply that they are brain dead and pathetic while asking everyone to just be positive? Do you see why this is so lol from a hypocrisy standpoint and why its so lol that you are passively siding with a company that is out to push players like you off their site into a thin market of providers that have garbage software? They deserve the heat, a loss of business, and they will get both. If you want to imply posters are pathetic and stupid, that's one thing, but then to turn around and say KEEP IT POSI is just lol man.

Treat others how you want to be treated, possibly? Stars jacked their most loyal high volume players for MILLIONS through deception! Applies to Stars and other multi billion dollar cutthroat companies too. They crap all over an extremely enthusiastic and loyal player base on literally all fronts and your message is be polite to them? If Monsanto doesn't want to be labeled the world's most hated corporation, maybe they shouldn't be such POGS? If the shoe fits....????

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04-28-2016 , 01:11 AM
Server restart today so up pops a message that many turbos and hyper turbos have been added; shouldn't that message be permanently there with the new schedule?

What's the most sickening about the changes is how Stars acts towards it's lower stakes customers, not just in the tournaments/structures on offer but the sheer arrogance that all lower stakes and recreational players are idiots that won't understand what's happening. I don't understand what the issue with the previous structures were, if I had a few hours to kill I would play a 'hot' or turbo but if I had longer I would play a 'big' knowing I'm getting a better structure. Now I just don't play any at all on Stars. The SCOOP and the WCOOP are insanely popular and it's not because of the name, think about it Stars.
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04-28-2016 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
nobody ever said the initial schedule released would be perfect.

the things that need to be fixed will be fixed if you offer honest, considerate, positive feedback. Here is an example

Hello Luke
Adding an additional level every X levels after Y levels have passed would make the average stack deeper late game in the "big" tournaments
I don't know the optimal figures for X and Y but they should be pretty easy to solve
Thanks
Hi Asjbaaaf,

It's fair to say that, but you can also understand why people are so irate. PS has turned the tournaments into a complete gamble with the new blind structures making everything basically a semi-turbo and people are losing money because of it.

I play micro tournaments and the only tournament I can play that is of regular speed is the $2.20 deep stack at 7.30pm AEST. That says a lot doesn't it? One tournament I can play per day. And I'm not working at the moment so I can play at any time in the 24 hour clock.

I guess the thing that most annoys me is how much was the schedule and structures thought out? With a review of previous tournaments and some simple maths you could figure out how many BB's players will have at a final table or some casuals may actually want to play a regular speed tournament.

Furthermore, If I was a casual player and I wanted to play a faster tournament I would play a turbo. It seems obvious to me that is why we have hypers, turbos and reg speed tournaments so people can either play the tournament type they enjoy or choose the type that reflects the time they have to play.

Here is a summary of the issues I have noticed;

- The schedule is dominated by 6 max tournaments
- 1 regular speed tournament for a micro player through a whole day. (I categorize a reg speed as at least 10 min blind levels)
- Bigs have lost there appeal due to 7min blind levels, essentially a turbo. Bounties also to a lesser extent
- Forcing micro players to play semi turbos, removing the choice to play a reg speed. It would make sense to incorporate both reg and semi turbos into the schedule rather than dictate what we can and can't play.

Another big issue I have is a lot of people are complaining about the structures, almost every post made since the new schedule was rolled out has been about how bad the blind structures are and yet we still have to wait until Monday for a possible change. The biggest issue out of the new schedule is the one with low priority.

I'm just so frustrated that I want to play, I have the money to play but I can't play because of poor thought out changes. Before someone says something stupid like oh you can play, no I can't because the tournaments I like don't exist and I refuse to pay for tournaments where I can't play real poker.

To end on a positive note, I love the fact there are more bigs and bounties but the issues I mentioned above need to be addressed.

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04-28-2016 , 01:29 AM
Thanks for the post. All of your points have been taken into consideration.

Feel free to vent as much as you want. Just don't call anyone out individually (i.e. luke, bryan, any other individual). These are real people who are just doing a job. They don't have an infinite supply of time and other resources like some people seem to think.

i'll step back and just go back to filtering out the bad posts from my own feed. go as hard as you want.

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